kev, id go with the MS1 as well man...u want comfy? transplant it...thats what i did with my KSC75 turned into Franken PhilKoss

Hi everyone,

I have been reading reviews and doing research for months. Ok the topic is Grado, i tried Grado SR60 and SR80 and they sound wouderful and detail. I have used Sennheiser before and they are just as nice with different flavor.

Finally i bought Grado since they are most suited for Metal music (as they say in the review), did i regret not trying them out for long period of listening...YES..i knew the this before i got them, but i never thought it was this bad....i never imagine anyone could get hurt this way, the pain was confusing and can be mistaken for headache, if anyone has a similar experience...guess no more,its the headphone, finally i bought a new headphone..love the grado sound but the pain...argghhh

The thing is Grado 325i sits on the ear and Sennhieser cover the whole ear which means the padding sits on your head or cheek if you like. I know for sure headphone like Grado 325i will hurt your ear is you wear them for long period of time, my Koss Portapro has the same effect.

Many websites will tell you Grado sounds nice, its true, but as Malaysians are are you willing to mod something after spending $$$$ on, if the headphone needs modding to improve the product even as new, than its clear that it is not a good product or bad design, its like putting on a pair of beautiful, expensive new jeans which doesnt fit.

I think sound is personal, unique and depends alot on personal reference. What ever is good for me might sound horrible for anyone else.
What im trying to say is, some websites offer advice or review which i consider as bias, missleading and over rated.

Modding the ear pad will improve comfort but modding a new RM1000 headphone and ruinning the spec and the warranty is not my cup of tea, and if end users can improve the sound quality of these headphone at home, than surely the manufacturer hads not done a good job of making their product the best possible.

I love the sound of Grados, but its a pain i cant live with when listening to hours of music...its painful..you should try it...its a shame the best set of cans for me also comes with the worse sensation...its like a nagging wife, u love the person but hate the noise, in case of Grado, i love the sound but just cant stand the pain.

This post has been edited by metalmania: Jan 4 2008, 03:58 PM

do not....i repeat DO NOT get Sennheisers for Metal.... imho its the worst combo ever. save ur money and get a Philips SHP2500 for around RM80. that would do much better for metal than any Senn. unless of course u wanna fall asleep listening to metal then go ahead and get a senn.

i listen to metal and ive tried HD595 and HD650...both utter crap when it comes to metal.

DT990 works well for metal...especially for songs with fast double paddles. only thing is... the mids are a little recessed but this is only noticeable when directly compared with other headphones such as the Grados or in my case, HD650. but if u cant take rich highs.. then dont think the DT990 is for u.
the DT990 is definitely a fun headphone. gives out just the right amount of energy for metal making it very enjoyable.

since comfort is an issue... trust me the DT990 will be 1 of the most comfortable headphones uve ever had on ur head.

as for ur grado...since u already have it...if u have the know how...u can always transplant it into a cheap headphone like i did with my KSC-75 (click Franken PhilKoss in siggy)

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jan 4 2008, 03:14 PM

ello~~
Looking for an upgrade for my mylar x3i now...budget coming in Feb..
Ohya, yuheng or wala, u guys hv a shop or sumtin izzit?
Feel like paying u guys a visit...wanna learn more bout high end stuff..

1.) budget i'd say close to RM350, but to play safe, RM300
2.) dont wanna any amp driven phone
3.) good design will come into consideration too.

This post has been edited by kel_jink: Jan 5 2008, 06:16 PM

There's a few things I would like to clarify.
Modding does not mean to mod the whole headphone. If you are feeling the pain from the "earpads", we will just exchange the earpads. I don't think exchanging earpads will void the warranty. There are lots of options for grado earpads, just search for it.
Another thing is the circumaural earpads does not suits everyone. Those with smaller ear size (from what I know) will experience the pain.
The final thing is the earpads actually needs run in. Long hour of wearing can soften the ear pads.

i see you very the poisoned by headphones jor XD
Beyer Dynamics? hmmm if not mistaken the soundstage isn't as good as the HP1000 without amp right? I don't use amps now, waste of time for me to setup here and there, so my phones are plugged in straight to the output source which has quite a bit of white noise (motherboard mah). Other than that, you know anybody who has earmuff spares for the hp1000 and cables? my plughead quite rusty jor, and the clips on the earmuffs connecting them to the headphone bodies are weak due to regular cleaning.

need or not wor. eoither that take grado earmuffs, cut to size XD

need or not depending on u man

anyway...i remember reading in head-fi...someone managed to mod Beyer pads (or some other brand...but circumaural pads la) onto a grado... all he needed was a cardboard, the pads, and i forgot how he stuck it to the headphones itself...

the extra distance supposedly helped to increase soundstage too

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jan 6 2008, 09:08 PM

I am not poisoned, I poison peoples.
When you go higher than multimedia headphones, an amp is quite necessary to unleash the true potential. If you got extra to spend I can poison you gao gao. Come find me...

extra distance = more soundstage??? O.o

i got two amps. the VAL amp and one little dot cmoy from Eokboy and for me, these cheapo ones are fine enough XD. only problem is finding a can that is comfy for me
today one pair of Aurvana DJ just reached my office....i wanna try RM419, so it should sound as well as my HP1000. if not.....ah guan here i come XD

This post has been edited by kev da man: Jan 7 2008, 05:55 PM

yup...the pad helped to distance the drivers more from the ear. and with the grados it seemed to help with the soundstage.

and i have to say this is true... coz my PhilKoss mod put the KSC75's drivers further away from my ear... it really did help with making the soundstage wider. thought not THAT significant.. its still more than noticeable

Come visit me I show you something evil...

Hi guys i need help in making up my mind among this few selections. Which will you recommend.

AKG earphone 314p

Sennheiser CX300
Sennheiser OMX 50

Crossroad Mylarone X3i
Crossroad Mylarthree

Audio Technica ATH CK32
Audio Technica CK 5

BOSE In-ear headphone

I'm using with my new Nokia Xpress Music 5610 phone.
DOn't listen to Metal songs...more to pop, country and some punk rock.

Thanks in advance...

Budget around 200 - 250

alrite, let me help u on this, i have experience on several IEM above, CX300....it is abit too much on overprices, with the sound of it, some of the customer do said that it prefer mylar than cx300, u can view mylar friends club...

and for the mylarone x3i, as i m the seller, i have no position to comment on it, alrite, for the CK32, it shall have quite decent sound, but i dont have the chances to compare it yet....so i place it on hold, CK5....pls do not go for it if u have higher budget like 150-300...

bose in ear, that is the IEM which is quite overprices as well, but i have to say, the comfort is superb..

hi everyone, bumped into this thread browsing around..

not sure if this is d correct thread to ask

but can anyone give me recommendations on a good quality bluetooth stereo headphones that doesnt bankrupt me.. (under 250 would be nice )

tq.

hi,i m newbies in earphone field.ok,i jusy wanna ask 4 sum recommendation on buying a new earphone.my budget is around rm 100.wat earphone is suitable(the most) 2 all type of music?thnx in advance.

If you're aiming for an all rounder music player, the SHP2700 may serve you well. It is, however, a headphone, bulkier and harder to bring around compared to smaller earphones. Will be you moving around alot with your music source?

I ain't too sure about earphones cause I am currently being poisoned to actually check on either the x3i or the xBi... Either that or I'd just go ahead splurge some RM700~RM800 on a full new speaker setup. xD Crap... audio upgrading year 2008.

uhhh.... i'm bringing up the customs topic again.

- livewires
- superfreq

somehow superfreq is bang for buck. cheaper than livewires and triple drivers. the downside is it's a new player and impressions are just starting to roll in.

livewires more reviews, more impressions. can get a rough idea how the sq is like. it's a dual driver and costs abit more compare to superfreq.
word on the vine, there's a triple driver coming out or something better... can someone link some info on this.. i've been digging around their website couldn't find anything.

question: dive for superfreq or holdout for livewires ?

thx enigmatic.tat exactly i wan,a headfon coz i dun listen music except front of my lappy.outside there is too bising.lol.i m not comfortable wf earfon coz it seem 2 hurt my ear after listen a couple hour.btw,wat is the latest price of shp2700 in lowyat?

The most expensive philips consumer headphones that you could buy for RM100?

I got a pair for RM60+ to use with my electronic keyboard / rythm sequencer.

Not bad. Beat the earbuds that came with my old MiniDisc player.



*this experience is 5 years old. tech may have progressed abit. But i hear philips still make decent headphones for the price.

hi, i am new here. Need some advice from you guys : )
which earphone/headphone you recommend to pair with PSP?
budget is around rm150. i have a creative ep360 but i don't like it. I can't hear much details from it.

EDIT : ops. is creative ep630

This post has been edited by naughty11: Jan 12 2008, 10:16 PM