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Yes[2018/2019] MacBook Pro User Thread
[2018/2019] MacBook Pro User Thread
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Jul 17 2018, 02:00 AM
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Jul 17 2018, 03:39 PM
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hi guys just wanna ask - (off topic)
those of you with Touch Bar version - is the TB very useful? how do you find with your daily use? for this new 8th gen proc no love for the non TB |
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Jul 17 2018, 06:16 PM
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Jul 17 2018, 11:21 PM
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2018 mbp in Malaysia website not showing comminh soon anymore but the estimate arrival date still 4-6 week
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Jul 18 2018, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(rebus @ Jul 17 2018, 03:39 PM) hi guys just wanna ask - (off topic) It is cool in look. But seriously it is not a must to have and most of them I use it like normal buttons.those of you with Touch Bar version - is the TB very useful? how do you find with your daily use? for this new 8th gen proc no love for the non TB This post has been edited by westlife: Jul 18 2018, 07:20 AM |
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Jul 18 2018, 09:54 AM
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Dave2d take on the MBP 2018 Looks like the i9 version have thermal throttling issues, same as the xps15 (his other video) He doesn't mention the i7 version, which should be fine |
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Jul 18 2018, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(Porie @ Jul 18 2018, 09:54 AM) Dave2d take on the MBP 2018 Looks like the i9 version have thermal throttling issues, same as the xps15 (his other video) He doesn't mention the i7 version, which should be fine this is the reason why laptop always have poorer processing power CPU compare to desktop counterpart. so the difference in real life for i5 vs i7 vs i9. are not significant. the extra processing power for i7 or i9 can only last for shorter period of time, something like a spike. so it depends on what kind of things one do. if it is rendering video, it is not really helpful. |
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Jul 18 2018, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 18 2018, 12:56 PM) thermal throttling is a known issue for high power CPU. the thing is if it can't even maintain base clock, that's really junk. might as well get the cheaper CPU version. this is the reason why laptop always have poorer processing power CPU compare to desktop counterpart. so the difference in real life for i5 vs i7 vs i9. are not significant. the extra processing power for i7 or i9 can only last for shorter period of time, something like a spike. so it depends on what kind of things one do. if it is rendering video, it is not really helpful. so there's keyboard problem and now this. Apple is really killin themselves |
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Jul 18 2018, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(Rovers9 @ Jul 18 2018, 05:09 PM) the thing is if it can't even maintain base clock, that's really junk. might as well get the cheaper CPU version. It is known issue. Seriously speaking, it is not Apple’s problem. Chips are by intel. From the fact that other brands also avoid throttling on their laptops, it is not something that Apple can create miracles.so there's keyboard problem and now this. Apple is really killin themselves The higher the processing power, the heat is meant to be high and laptops are known to have poorer cooling mechanism than desktop. So it is unavoidable. This is the reason why those youtubers hardly recommend cpu upgrade becos no signficant differences. |
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Jul 19 2018, 09:47 AM
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Jul 19 2018, 09:50 AM
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Apparently 2017 MBP > 2018 MBP (due to thermal throttling) |
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Jul 19 2018, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(Porie @ Jul 19 2018, 09:50 AM) Wow I was looking to sell my 2017 15” but not after watching all these video. Might wait until the next refresh, no point upgrade it but performance throttle until this extent. Seems like coffeelake not ready for such thin laptop like MBP. |
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Jul 19 2018, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jul 19 2018, 12:16 PM) Wow I was looking to sell my 2017 15” but not after watching all these video. Might wait until the next refresh, no point upgrade it but performance throttle until this extent. with 2017 MacBook Pro, it is not worth it to upgrade la. wait for few more gens.Seems like coffeelake not ready for such thin laptop like MBP. |
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Jul 19 2018, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 18 2018, 06:12 PM) It is known issue. Seriously speaking, it is not Apple’s problem. Chips are by intel. From the fact that other brands also avoid throttling on their laptops, it is not something that Apple can create miracles. You can't say its not apple's problem. Apple is a big company and outstanding engineering development, they should at least try to solve or minimize the thermal problem. The higher the processing power, the heat is meant to be high and laptops are known to have poorer cooling mechanism than desktop. So it is unavoidable. This is the reason why those youtubers hardly recommend cpu upgrade becos no signficant differences. There are laptops with high-end specs without an thermal issues albeit there are much much thicker. Apple should at least maybe try to sacrifice the thickness or add in higher clock fan speeds. Or better don't put in an i9 on a such thin laptop. |
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Jul 19 2018, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(Porie @ Jul 19 2018, 06:11 PM) You can't say its not apple's problem. Apple is a big company and outstanding engineering development, they should at least try to solve or minimize the thermal problem. Laptop nowadays are either Ultrabook or power beast like gaming one that are bulky and heavy which allows more fan or more room for heat exhaustion. There are laptops with high-end specs without an thermal issues albeit there are much much thicker. Apple should at least maybe try to sacrifice the thickness or add in higher clock fan speeds. Or better don't put in an i9 on a such thin laptop. no matter i5, i7 or i9 the intel chips that are used by apple MacBook Pro are meant for Ultrabook, they are not even those gaming equipvalent. so this is a prob that not only faced by apple but ANU Ultrabook in the market too. Unless intel can really come out a heat efficient chip for this range of products, else the problem will stay the same. Apple can solve this prob unless they use their own chips. |
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Jul 19 2018, 09:12 PM
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Apple Confirms 2018 MacBook Pro Keyboard Has 'Membrane' to 'Prevent Debris From Entering the Butterfly Mechanism'
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/19/apple-...revents-debris/ This post has been edited by westlife: Jul 19 2018, 09:13 PM |
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Jul 20 2018, 07:53 PM
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MacBook Pro 13-inch has 4x full-speed thunderbolt 3 ports. Nice.
https://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/tech-news-n...underbolt-ports |
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Jul 20 2018, 08:10 PM
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Am wondering whether should I go for 2017 MBP with upgrade or 2018 MBP? Would mainly use for heavy photo editting.
Comparing btw 2017 MBP 13' (upgrade processor to 2.5ghz dual core and 16gb ram) and 2018 MBP 13' (either to upgrade processor or ram). Would anyone able to advise which one is better choice? Budget around RM8000-RM8500 (educational price) |
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Jul 20 2018, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(Grajindo @ Jul 20 2018, 08:10 PM) Am wondering whether should I go for 2017 MBP with upgrade or 2018 MBP? Would mainly use for heavy photo editting. if u are buying 13-inch, i think 2018 is a no brainer. it is not only for the single-core or multi-core speed only matter, but the no cores (quard-core) will make a difference. Comparing btw 2017 MBP 13' (upgrade processor to 2.5ghz dual core and 16gb ram) and 2018 MBP 13' (either to upgrade processor or ram). Would anyone able to advise which one is better choice? Budget around RM8000-RM8500 (educational price) basically for 2018 13-inch, u get: 1) better CPU 2) better screen (True Tone) 3) 2 x extra full speed thunderbot 3 ports 4) better graphic card 5) Apple T2 Chip 6) better keyboard (quieter) |
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Jul 20 2018, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 20 2018, 08:23 PM) if u are buying 13-inch, i think 2018 is a no brainer. it is not only for the single-core or multi-core speed only matter, but the no cores (quard-core) will make a difference. in term of upgrading, will upgrading processor gives more significant result than ram? for photo editing. and I believe we are not able to upgrade the ram and SSD by our own?basically for 2018 13-inch, u get: 1) better CPU 2) better screen (True Tone) 3) 2 x extra full speed thunderbot 3 ports 4) better graphic card 5) Apple T2 Chip 6) better keyboard (quieter) |
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