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jackiez
post Jul 14 2018, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Rovers9 @ Jul 14 2018, 11:44 AM)
the new design should protect against debris but if dust somehow ever gets inside, even more harder to take out
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i thought so at first place, but it seems to be kinda easy still as its not fully sealed around the mechanism

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TSwestlife
post Jul 14 2018, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(jackiez @ Jul 14 2018, 09:42 AM)
now i wonder whether 2017 or 2018 keyboard will be given for the keyboard replacement program
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Repair program all the while applies to 2017 MBP.

https://www.apple.com/support/keyboard-serv...nd-macbook-pro/
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post Jul 14 2018, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 14 2018, 12:09 PM)
Repair program all the while applies to 2017 MBP.

https://www.apple.com/support/keyboard-serv...nd-macbook-pro/
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yes i mean whether scd gen or new third gen butterfly keyboard will be given to replace the faulty one for this program.
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post Jul 14 2018, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(jackiez @ Jul 14 2018, 12:17 PM)
yes i mean whether scd gen or new third gen butterfly keyboard will be given to replace the faulty one for this program.
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This is for the “2017 or 2018” part of ur qns.

2018 obviously it depends on if the same issues are faced by 2018 users. I dun see that Apple will announce a repair program immediately on their newly refresh products.

But my point is that I do not see that after Apple launch the repair program again they expect to continue service the same old keyboard multiple times for the same machine. If the replacement program is not going to fix the problem, they will lose a lot of time and money for the continuous replacements even for the newly refresh 2018 MBP.

I would think that why apple does not explicitly address this keyboard issue even in the 3rd gen now. It could be due to the fact that this only affects small percentage of their users thus they do not feel it is crucial to fix it. Else, I could not understand why Apple does not fix it which they are definitely capable in doing so.

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post Jul 14 2018, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 14 2018, 12:09 PM)
Repair program all the while applies to 2017 MBP.

https://www.apple.com/support/keyboard-serv...nd-macbook-pro/
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Wondering can I send in to replace the keyboard although now don't have any issues yet?
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post Jul 14 2018, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(jackiez @ Jul 14 2018, 12:08 PM)
i thought so at first place, but it seems to be kinda easy still as its not fully sealed around the mechanism

watch 1:08

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Right, don't see this as a viable long term solution
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post Jul 14 2018, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 14 2018, 01:32 PM)
This is for the “2017 or 2018” part of ur qns.

2018 obviously it depends on if the same issues are faced by 2018 users. I dun see that Apple will announce a repair program immediately on their newly refresh products.

But my point is that I do not see that after Apple launch the repair program again they expect to continue service the same old keyboard multiple times for the same machine. If the replacement program is not going to fix the problem, they will lose a lot of time and money for the continuous replacements even for the newly refresh 2018 MBP.

I would think that why apple does not explicitly address this keyboard issue even in the 3rd gen now. It could be due to the fact that this only affects small percentage of their users thus they do not feel it is crucial to fix it. Else, I could not understand why Apple does not fix it which they are definitely capable in doing so.
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From what I know is they are under lawsuit and can't suddenly just come out with a new product and say they fixed the issue. It's disappointing to see they marketed a flaw product, yet claim it to be the best given at that price point
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post Jul 14 2018, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Jul 14 2018, 01:44 PM)
Wondering can I send in to replace the keyboard although now don't have any issues yet?
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u can send for check up la, but if no issue after examined by them of course no replacement, as mentioned only small percentage of keyboard affected

also if the keyboard prob not that serious, they will use fix the particular keypad, fair enough

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post Jul 14 2018, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Rovers9 @ Jul 14 2018, 02:48 PM)
From what I know is they are under lawsuit and can't suddenly just come out with a new product and say they fixed the issue. It's disappointing to see they marketed a flaw product, yet claim it to be the best given at that price point
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It is bad indeed. However, given that one is in Apple ecosystem, at least you can be assured that Apple will address problems even after warranty. I think this is more important. There were existing cases that Apple is even Replacing a more than 5 years old MacBook Pro with the latest model for free.

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post Jul 14 2018, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jul 13 2018, 04:28 PM)
Ever since I got my iPad, I really enjoyed typing on the on-screen keyboard - no mechanical parts, no sharp keyboard sound, and no need to worry about keyboard issues plaguing the current MBP.

I really hope they would redesigned the MBP with a full-fledged on-screen keyboard instead of the half-baked TouchBar. Maybe 2020 perhaps...?
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I can foresee it takes min one more year of release of updated MacBook Pro. MacBook Pro sales figure is Super pathetic comparing to iphone. I dun think Apple will refresh the design so soon. It is not their style of direction for MacBook lineup.
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post Jul 14 2018, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 14 2018, 04:34 PM)
It is bad indeed. However, given that one is in Apple ecosystem, at least you can be assured that Apple will address problems even after warranty. I think this is more important. There were existing cases that Apple is eve. Replacing a more than 5 years old MacBook Pro with the latest model.
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that's true however we only have Apple Resellers in Malaysia where there are times they try to push away their responsibility (in the case of iPhone users). If only we can have Apple store itself here, story might be different. Although there are resellers that fully provide after sales services that are equal to Apple but I've never come across one, only heard it from other users
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QUOTE(Rovers9 @ Jul 14 2018, 04:40 PM)
that's true however we only have Apple Resellers in Malaysia where there are times they try to push away their responsibility (in the case of iPhone users). If only we can have Apple store itself here, story might be different. Although there are resellers that fully provide after sales services that are equal to Apple but I've never come across one, only heard it from other users
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Yes, u are rite. If given a choice, I would prefer to do whatever service at actual Apple store instead of authorised dealer.

lucky my Apple products are all from lion city. 😜
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post Jul 14 2018, 05:03 PM

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i still hoping for modular mac mini / mac book / mac pro...
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post Jul 14 2018, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 14 2018, 04:40 PM)
I can foresee it takes min one more year of release of updated MacBook Pro. MacBook Pro sales figure is Super pathetic comparing to iphone. I dun think Apple will refresh the design so soon. It is not their style of direction for MacBook lineup.
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2008 - Uni MBP...
2012 - Retina MBP...
2016 - TouchBar MBP...
2020 - TouchScreen Keyboard MBP....??? brows.gif

Not too far fetch eh...?
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post Jul 14 2018, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jul 14 2018, 05:10 PM)
2008 - Uni MBP...
2012 - Retina MBP...
2016 - TouchBar MBP...
2020 - TouchScreen Keyboard MBP....??? brows.gif

Not too far fetch eh...?
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4 years what can ssd the trend. Now it is 2018. Like I said, minimum one more update before design change.
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QUOTE(xproc @ Jul 14 2018, 05:03 PM)
i still hoping for modular mac mini / mac book / mac pro...
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does not seem like Apple is going to upgrade the MAC mini.

Same like iPad mini, I have been waiting for it to be updated, again no chance.
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post Jul 14 2018, 05:35 PM

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How come apple are forcing you to get the touch bar models?? No new non touchbar model for 13" 2018???
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jul 14 2018, 05:35 PM)
How come apple are forcing you to get the touch bar models?? No new non touchbar model for 13" 2018???
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Dun have. The strategy is clear. One should buy the MBP TB only now.
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post Jul 14 2018, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jul 14 2018, 05:10 PM)
2008 - Uni MBP...
2012 - Retina MBP...
2016 - TouchBar MBP...
2020 - TouchScreen Keyboard MBP....??? brows.gif

Not too far fetch eh...?
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Probably not, Apple has said if you want touchscreen there's iOS.
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post Jul 14 2018, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 14 2018, 05:40 PM)
Dun have. The strategy is clear. One should buy the MBP TB only now.
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lol, good luck with their sales.

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