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post Jul 20 2018, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Grajindo @ Jul 20 2018, 08:27 PM)
in term of upgrading, will upgrading processor gives more significant result than ram? for photo editing. and I believe we are not able to upgrade the ram and SSD by our own?
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yes, you cannot do any upgrade ram or cpu later at all. SSD is possible but will be too troublesome to do and not easy to do. the cost of buying new SSD with bigger capacity that can be used for macbook pro will be super expensive, and it will cost you more than you pay now for the right size of SSD. importantly, the bigger capacity SSD macbook may look expensive, but in real, those third party of external SSD in terms of performance (read/write speed) are totally sky and earth. 512GB is a minmum even for normal users. dun waste time on 256GB or below.

if you are serious video editing user, the insance write/read speed will make a big difference when you work on the project within the 'working space' instead of external storage etc.

16GB is good if you are heavy user again such as video editing, running VMs etc. else 8GB is more than sufficient even for gaming.

upgrading of CPU is totally not a must, even i5 can do well for normal tasks not to mention it is quard-core, for application that can tap on the benefits of multi-core, it will be good. but of course if you have real need of i7 and money is not an issue, by all means you should go for it.

In the event that you need more RAM and CPU, you should just go for 15-inch, it will save the trouble to even think of upgrading processor or RAM, since it is already i7 6-cores and 16GB, more than sufficient for most people.
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post Jul 20 2018, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 20 2018, 09:22 PM)
yes, you cannot do any upgrade ram or cpu later at all. SSD is possible but will be too troublesome to do and not easy to do. the cost of buying new SSD with bigger capacity that can be used for macbook pro will be super expensive, and it will cost you more than you pay now for the right size of SSD. importantly, the bigger capacity SSD macbook may look expensive, but in real, those third party of external SSD in terms of performance (read/write speed) are totally sky and earth. 512GB is a minmum even for normal users. dun waste time on 256GB or below.

if you are serious video editing user, the insance write/read speed will make a big difference when you work on the project within the 'working space' instead of external storage etc.

16GB is good if you are heavy user again such as video editing, running VMs etc. else 8GB is more than sufficient even for gaming.

upgrading of CPU is totally not a must, even i5 can do well for normal tasks not to mention it is quard-core, for application that can tap on the benefits of multi-core, it will be good. but of course if you have real need of i7 and money is not an issue, by all means you should go for it.

In the event that you need more RAM and CPU, you should just go for 15-inch, it will save the trouble to even think of upgrading processor or RAM, since it is already i7 6-cores and 16GB, more than sufficient for most people.
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thanks for the info

i am basically 99% photo. but once in a while I do edit up to 100-150mb per photo file size and foresee that i will doing more editing with photos 30-40mb per file.

let say if i insist on the 13-inch, for 2018 ver, with around RM8500 budget (educational store price), which configuration would you recommend? go for the extra storage space?
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post Jul 20 2018, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Grajindo @ Jul 20 2018, 09:33 PM)
thanks for the info

i am basically 99% photo. but once in a while I do edit up to 100-150mb per photo file size and foresee that i will doing more editing with photos 30-40mb per file.

let say if i insist on the 13-inch, for 2018 ver, with around RM8500 budget (educational store price), which configuration would you recommend? go for the extra storage space?
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photo editing i think it is pretty much considered normal tasks.

i5 + 8gb ram should be sufficient.

but if really to upgrade, this will my order.
512GB SSD (a must) > 16GB ram > i7
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post Jul 20 2018, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 20 2018, 10:16 PM)
photo editing i think it is pretty much considered normal tasks.

i5 + 8gb ram should be sufficient.

but if really to upgrade, this will my order.
512GB SSD (a must) > 16GB ram > i7
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What's your opinion between 16GB and 32GB RAM? Who will need the extra RAMs?
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post Jul 20 2018, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 20 2018, 11:21 PM)
What's your opinion between 16GB and 32GB RAM? Who will need the extra RAMs?
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if u run parrel/vm fusion to run windows application,

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post Jul 21 2018, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 20 2018, 10:16 PM)
photo editing i think it is pretty much considered normal tasks.

i5 + 8gb ram should be sufficient.

but if really to upgrade, this will my order.
512GB SSD (a must) > 16GB ram > i7
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post Jul 21 2018, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 20 2018, 11:21 PM)
What's your opinion between 16GB and 32GB RAM? Who will need the extra RAMs?
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I would upgrade the CPU more than the RAM, 16GB ram is still plenty when I open heavy photoshop + illustrator files. 8GB is different story.

Again, ask yourself how long you gonna be using the laptop. More than 5 year definitely get the 32GB upgrade.
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post Jul 21 2018, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jul 21 2018, 12:55 AM)
I would upgrade the CPU more than the RAM, 16GB ram is still plenty when I open heavy photoshop + illustrator files. 8GB is different story.

Again, ask yourself how long you gonna be using the laptop. More than 5 year definitely get the 32GB upgrade.
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Thanks. Another new video on i9 spec vs i7 spec.
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post Jul 21 2018, 04:56 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 20 2018, 11:21 PM)
What's your opinion between 16GB and 32GB RAM? Who will need the extra RAMs?
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16gb is more than sufficient.

In fact 8gb is more than sufficient too for most users. unless u really run VMs. Nowadays OS is more than smart enough to better utilize the RAM, even u run a lot of apps at the same time and there is really not enough RAM, it will just swap out the apps more frequently but in most cases it does not affect user experience at all. I have seen many reviewers test out the 8GB ram vs 16GB RAM for gaming and video editing, it does not make significant difference. I upgraded my MacBook Pro to 16GB for future proof becos I assume I can use it for at least 5 years or so. But until now my usage for my 16GB is around 5GB+- most of the time. I think it is only possible to use more than that when I run VMs with you can dedicate amount of ram to each VM. But again even running VMs, the CPU will be a bottleneck to limit the no of VMs you can run too.

for myself, i actually regret to spend the $ to upgrade 8GB based on my actual usage now which the $ can be go to the next macbook purchase or the $ can be used on upgrading to i7 instead.
if i am to buy my macbook pro again, i will go for 512GB, 8GB RAM, i5 (stock model).
if i am to customized (such as i7, 16GB etc.) -> i will go for 15-inch instead. because these upgrade makes the price very closer to buying 15-inch which is more worth it (bigger screen, bigger trackpad, dedicated graphic card, ready i7 with more cores and 16GB RAM)
particularly if you are buying 2018 model, it is same price as 2017 but you get quard-core i5 which it should be better than before for 13-inch plus full speed 4 x thunderbot 3 port.

32gb ram is a Super overkilled for most users, i think most ppl will just simply overspend for this unless one has concrete reason why it is needed.

4GB-> 8GB - super signfiicant in performance difference
8GB -> 16GB - not significant unless you run VMs that need more RAM for each VM
16 -> 32GB - very unlikely to be significant unless you are reason to have it.

i think nowdays the software is lacking behind of hardware unless 10, 15 years ago. many software are not even tap well on mult-threading capability of CPU yet.



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post Jul 21 2018, 08:47 AM

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did you guys purchase AppleCare?
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QUOTE(Grajindo @ Jul 20 2018, 09:33 PM)
thanks for the info

i am basically 99% photo. but once in a while I do edit up to 100-150mb per photo file size and foresee that i will doing more editing with photos 30-40mb per file.

let say if i insist on the 13-inch, for 2018 ver, with around RM8500 budget (educational store price), which configuration would you recommend? go for the extra storage space?
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For photo, I'd just go with 256gb and archive the photos on an external RAID instead. After shooting, import to the macbook, edit, and when you're done, transfer all to external.

but of course, if you already have an external RAID setup then might as well go for 512gb lah hehe
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Jul 21 2018, 09:46 AM)
For photo, I'd just go with 256gb and archive the photos on an external RAID instead. After shooting, import to the macbook, edit, and when you're done, transfer all to external.

but of course, if you already have an external RAID setup then might as well go for 512gb lah hehe
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unfortunately i do not have RAID yet just few external HDD and SSD since I haven't been settling down in a same city for the past few years. Think I'd be going for the 512GB since my current MBP I have almost utilize both my HD and SSD.
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Did anyone place an order for the MBP 2018 already? What's the shipping date?

Edit: I found out Singapore purchases come with free Beats Solo 3 wireless headset..

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 21 2018, 09:49 PM)
Did anyone place an order for the MBP 2018 already? What's the shipping date?

Edit: I found out Singapore purchases come with free Beats Solo 3 wireless headset..
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yes sg education store gives free beats solo 3 wireless headset. around 3-4 years they give liao. long long time ago they give ipod touch free for macbook purchase.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 21 2018, 09:49 PM)
Did anyone place an order for the MBP 2018 already? What's the shipping date?

Edit: I found out Singapore purchases come with free Beats Solo 3 wireless headset..
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Planning to purchase the MBP 2018 13" 512gb model at the end of year
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 21 2018, 09:49 PM)
Did anyone place an order for the MBP 2018 already? What's the shipping date?

Edit: I found out Singapore purchases come with free Beats Solo 3 wireless headset..
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no discount on AppleCare? US store is offering that and the Beats though
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any update on the throttlegate ?
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 22 2018, 08:34 AM)

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I think this video is very misinformed. Nobody is complaining that i9 is slower than the i7.

People are complaining that the i9 will throttle and perform under it's advertised base clock (2.9 GHz).
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QUOTE(cusx @ Jul 22 2018, 06:04 PM)
I think this video is very misinformed. Nobody is complaining that i9 is slower than the i7.

People are complaining that the i9 will throttle and perform under it's advertised base clock (2.9 GHz).
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it is addressing the throttling issues.

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