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MilitaryMadness
post Apr 11 2019, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Apr 11 2019, 02:49 PM)
let see new govt dare to push forward this or stay with chinese made ship...  brows.gif

many people already point out the chinese LMS problem and other shipyard advantage...the old govt drop balls on it..hope the new govt brave enough to fix it...

even better its THHE which will help tabung haji thus helping fix...a political points there for malay voter
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Well, first of all THHE and Destini need to prove that they have what it takes to do further construction of patrol boats and OPVs. If the ships they are currently building are built on schedule, with no additional cost overruns and their service proves satisfactory to their users, I see no reason the government shouldn't utilize the company for building further Naval and coast guard OPVs in the future. Same with smaller patrol boats. The good news is Destini had successfully built the six 43 meters Bagan Datuk-class NGPC in pretty much record time and with no fuss or cost issues (The entire NGPC contract cost RM 380 million), so I think they earned some brownie points with the government there.

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NGPC KM Sri Aman

As for now, the OPV batch contract costs RM 740 million for 3 ships, this includes the initial design and TOT. As we already bought the blueprints from Damen, further OPVs of Damen 1800 design can be built at cheaper cost. THHE themselves claim they are ready to shoulder the challenge, but I guess we'll see how they fare with the current order.

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THHE sedia jadi peneraju pembinaan kapal Peronda Luar Pesisir (OPV) negara

LANGKAWI: TH Heavy Engineering Bhd (TH Heavy) bersedia menjadi peneraju dalam industri pembinaan Kapal Peronda Luar Pantai (OPV) untuk kegunaan agensi penguatkuasaan di negara ini.

Ketua Pegawai Eksekutif Kumpulan TH Heavy, Suhaimi Badrul Jamil, berkata syarikat kini giat menyiapkan pembinaan tiga OPV bernilai RM740 juta untuk kegunaan Agensi Penguatkuasaan Maritim Malaysia (Maritim Malaysia).

"Awal tahun depan, ketiga-tiga kapal yang sedang dibina di Limbungan Pulau Indah, Selangor itu bakal diserahkan kepada Maritim Malaysia.

"Berbekalkan pengalaman itu, kami mampu membina kapal peronda yang panjangnya mencecah sehingga 120 meter," katanya ketika ditemui di gerai pameran TH Heavy di Pusat Pameran Antarabangsa Mahsuri (MIEC) di sini, hari ini.

Beliau berkata, berbekalkan 400 pekerja yang mahir dalam pembinaan kapal, TH Heavy yakin memperoleh projek baharu seterusnya membantu menjana keuntungan kepada syarikat.

"TH Heavy berbangga apabila menjadi menerima tunggal sijil pengiktirafan daripada Jabatan Laut Malaysia (JLM) berkaitan keselamatan dan kawalan aset serta kerja-kerja baik pulih kapal di limbungan.

"Jadi, pelanggan kami tidak perlu risau terhadap aset mereka yang dihantar ke limbungan untuk dibaiki atau aset baharu yang kami bina untuk kegunaan mereka," katanya.

Selain itu, Suhaimi berkata, TH Heavy juga adalah penerima sijil Organisasi Standard Antarabangsa (ISO) iaitu ISO 9001:2015, ISO 14001:2015 dan Sistem Pengurusan Keselamatan dan Kesihatan Pekerjaan OHSAS 18001:2007.
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post Apr 11 2019, 04:28 PM

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If somehow government can allocate to the APMM the construction of 2 NGPC for each annual budget, by 2030 they can replace the entire old patrol boat fleet of the APMM with a reasonable cost.

The APMM currently use a lot of old ex-TLDM patrol boats with an average age of 30-40 years. Some even reach 50 years old already.


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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 11 2019, 04:21 PM)
Well, first of all THHE and Destini need to prove that they have what it takes to do further construction of patrol boats and OPVs. If the ships they are currently building are built on schedule, with no additional cost overruns and their service proves satisfactory to their users, I see no reason the government shouldn't utilize the company for building further Naval and coast guard OPVs in the future. Same with smaller patrol boats. The good news is Destini had successfully built the six 43 meters Bagan Datuk-class NGPC in pretty much record time and with no fuss or cost issues (The entire NGPC contract cost RM 380 million), so I think they earned some brownie points with the government there.

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NGPC KM Sri Aman

As for now, the OPV batch contract costs RM 740 million for 3 ships, this includes the initial design and TOT. As we already bought the blueprints from Damen, further OPVs of Damen 1800 design can be built at cheaper cost. THHE themselves claim they are ready to shoulder the challenge, but I guess we'll see how they fare with the current order.

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oh btw Destini is also belong to the same owner of NGV Tech
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post Apr 11 2019, 08:14 PM

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Launching ceremony of Indonesian Navy 3rd DSME Type 209 Submarine by PT PAL on April 11th 2019. Based from report contract signing for additional 3 more DSME Type 209 Submarine is scheduled this Friday April 12th 2019. Photo by Antara Foto/Zabur Karuru.

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post Apr 12 2019, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 11 2019, 04:33 PM)
oh btw Destini is also belong to the same owner of NGV Tech
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So long as the project is delivered on time, with reasonable cost, and without major defect, nobody cares, go ahead and make money.

But when the project is fucked up because people are greedy, then you really should start questioning if peoples' loyalty are to the country, or themselves.

Especially in the case of Govt business and sovereign defence like this
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Apr 12 2019, 12:57 AM)
So long as the project is delivered on time, with reasonable cost, and without major defect, nobody cares, go ahead and make money.

But when the project is fucked up because people are greedy, then you really should start questioning if peoples' loyalty are to the country, or themselves.

Especially in the case of Govt business and sovereign defence like this
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To date NGV Tech/Destini has delivered though the problem with Samudera Class due to the issue with the UN with their sales agent dealing with Iran.

Other then that they have been doing well Destini and Destini Prima
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 12 2019, 01:00 AM)
To date NGV Tech/Destini has delivered though the problem with Samudera Class due to the issue with the UN with their sales agent dealing with Iran.

Other then that they have been doing well Destini and Destini Prima
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rclxms.gif Yeah good for them. I quite like the MMEA ships.

was referring more to PSC brows.gif

what do you know about Amin Shah btw?
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Those endons got infinity pocket ka? Deep indeed.

Every month got new toys.😅
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post Apr 12 2019, 06:21 AM

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Indonesia commissions locally-assembled submarine

Source: Xinhua| 2019-04-12 00:05:45|

JAKARTA, April 11 (Xinhua) -- Indonesia Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu commissioned a submarine assembled by the nation's dockyard under a contract with South Korea on Thursday, completing the collaboration that builds three submarines for Indonesia.

The commissioning of the diesel electric submarine U209, Alugoro 405, was launched at a navy base in East Java province's capital of Surabaya.

Speaking in his remarks, Ryamizard said the successful production of the submarine in a national dockyard has made Indonesia the only country in Southeast Asia to do it.

"We now have the capability to build submarine. Not every country can do that," the defense minister said.

Indonesia has prepared a submarine base in Central Sulawesi province's Palu Bay, he added.

The submarine assembled by state-run PT PAL is the last of the three submarines built under Indonesia-South Korea transfer of technology collaboration.

Indonesia received two submarines produced by South Korean dockyard Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME). Hundreds of Indonesian engineers took part in production process of those submarine in South Korea.


Read more: http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-04/12/c_137969510.htm

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post Apr 12 2019, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(arinpresto @ Apr 12 2019, 04:25 AM)
Those endons got infinity pocket ka? Deep indeed.

Every month got new toys.😅
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recycled news... buy something talk 100x, 10% chance of actually seeing reality... on the other hand, they have bigger budget and buy in small quantities
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post Apr 12 2019, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(arinpresto @ Apr 12 2019, 02:25 AM)
Those endons got infinity pocket ka? Deep indeed.

Every month got new toys.😅
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They have a massive economy actually

GDP of US$ 1 trillion compared to our US$ 0.3 trillion

Then since their salaries are comparatively low, their personnel costs are low as well, leaving more allowance for Capex and Opex

Indo defence budget was about US$ 8 billion compared to our US$ 3.75 billion, yet they spent 1/3rd less than us, 0.8% of GDP compared to our 1.25% of GDP

Indonesia has big potential to be an Asian tiger, if they ever get their act together

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 12 2019, 01:00 AM)
To date NGV Tech/Destini has delivered though the problem with Samudera Class due to the issue with the UN with their sales agent dealing with Iran.

Other then that they have been doing well Destini and Destini Prima
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Yes, the Gagah Samudera-class training ships were actually already finished construction up way back in 2012 & 2013 and were built with no problems. The contract for both ships was signed with DSME Korea at LIMA 2011 for RM 380 million. The delay in delivering the training ships to the TLDM (commissioned in 2018) was not about any construction delay or budget issues, but the shipyard's own financial problems and foresclosure.

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Also, the Gagah Samudera-class is also a design that can be easily converted into a naval or coast guard OPV. Probably needs a bigger gun though.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 12 2019, 08:16 AM)
Yes, the Gagah Samudera-class training ships were actually already finished construction up way back in 2012 & 2013 and were built with no problems. The contract for both ships was signed with DSME Korea at LIMA 2011 for RM 380 million. The delay in delivering the training ships to the TLDM (commissioned in 2018) was not about any construction delay or budget issues, but the shipyard's own financial problems and foresclosure.

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Also, the Gagah Samudera-class is also a design that can be easily converted into a naval or coast guard OPV. Probably needs a bigger gun though.
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Looks like LHD
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post Apr 12 2019, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Apr 12 2019, 08:17 AM)
Looks like LHD
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What is that? It doesn't mean what I think you mean izzit? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Apr 12 2019, 07:13 AM)
recycled news... buy something talk 100x, 10% chance of actually seeing reality... on the other hand, they have bigger budget and buy in small quantities
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Lol. Actually most of that news became a reality. From news of AH-64E, Leopard 2s, NASAMS, Javelin ATGM...etc. Heck even news of Indonesia buying the AH-64E here in Lowyat are calling Indonesian penipu scammer.
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post Apr 12 2019, 09:25 AM

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APMM needs RM550 million to maintain maritime assets

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Home Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin visiting the MMEA Air Station , Subang

SHAH ALAM - The Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) requires at least RM550 million to maintain assets, especially vessels and outdated boats to launch maritime operations more effectively.

Home Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yasssin said the maintenance and overhaul of APMM assets should be carried out continuously so that the service life of existing assets can be maintained.

"A provision for APMM for asset maintenance worth RM550 million for three years. I understand that APMM faces various challenges in implementing its functions and roles.

"MMEA is still facing a lack of infrastructure such as jetties, personnel quarters and low numbers of officers & sailors," he told a media conference on his working visit at Subang Maritime Air Station, here, today.

Also present were Home Ministry Secretary-General Datuk Seri Alwi Ibrahim and APMM Director-General, Admiral Maritim, Datuk Seri Zulkifli Abu Bakar.

Muhyiddin said that since the APMM was established in 2005, the agency has carried over more than 300,000 maritime search operations and managed to make over 11,000 arrests covering various maritime crime offenses.

"Maritime Malaysia also recorded significant achievements and was commendable when it decreased maritime crime statistics from 48.6 per cent in 2006 to 2.2 per cent in 2018," he said.

He said the APMM will receive three Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPV) soon, built using local expertise.

"These new assets will definitely increase the efficiency of the MMEA operations. In addition, the MMEA's intention to own a mothership will someday Insha-Allah will be given the best attention.

"MMEA will also be empowered with significant air assets in carrying out piracy, robbery and search and rescue (SAR) activities," he added.

"I was informed that MMEA already has its own strategic plan called the Pelan Perancangan Strategik Maritim Malaysia.

"My hope is that the plan will be able to develop the human capital and infrastructure of MMEA to the highest level in line with maritime enforcement agencies in Asia Pacific in particular and in the world in general" he said.

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US warship docks in Kota Kinabalu after hectic Lima schedule
Durie Rainer Fong - April 11, 2019 5:59 PM• 5 minute read


USS Blue Ridge
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post Apr 12 2019, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Aparaa @ Apr 12 2019, 09:26 AM)
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Good to have this one parking at perlabuhan klang.

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QUOTE(arinpresto @ Apr 12 2019, 12:10 PM)
Good to have this one parking at perlabuhan klang.

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for? to?
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Apr 9 2019, 11:46 PM)
ohh... u r referring to standard rifles... match grade rifles are diff..
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I don't know about match grade rifle accuracy....but just saying that rifles don't have equal accuracy

QUOTE(balambgarden @ Apr 10 2019, 06:25 AM)
Yes, nowadays its just considered a minor modification
You can easily change your barrel to multiple configuration nowadays

Ak-47 was made with different purpose in mind, its just not made for accurate shooting but that does not meant its a subpar weapon nonetheless

G36 simply only had precision issue in high-intensity real combat situation where they used it on full blast like machineguns, which is not recommended
Lithuanian and the Spanish forces which uses the same rifle in the same environment had no issue with them if used correctly
You wont get that issue on competition environment even gun nuts on youtube cant re-create the issue with their guns

They could simply have just gone the british way to improve it like the sa80
which had way2 more problem but i guess it just time to switch to new guns for them

The only subpar weapons is when the weapons itself turned to its owner.. either by simply not working or exploding in your face
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Yes...you can change barrel easily...but standard SS2 barrel is heavier than SS1, especially because it's longer. Of course, AK-47 is based on different kind of use, but I'm just saying that rifles have different accuracy.

For sub-par rifle, I have a different opinion, if it's defective enough like G36 and INSAS, then it's sub-par

QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Apr 10 2019, 09:02 AM)
soldier cant really choose what rifle they use
its not for them to make that kinda decision
deswai i said soldier shud master their weapons to their fullest potential

latest ak version can shoot as well as western rifle nowadays
g36 crumbled mostly to political pressure.. other pipul using it dun have such problem
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Of course, I'm just saying that rifle quality also matter. No matter how skilled you are, if you use a relatively inaccurate rifle like AK-47, you won't perform well....

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