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Frozen_Sun
post Apr 9 2019, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Apr 9 2019, 01:54 AM)
internally there is not much difference between ss1 and ss2
its still pretty much an upgrade over its fnc lineage
laos uses the same rifle but they dun have much to show

as i said it was all about the team, once they send a coach from the team to brunei and they got very good result
but after he left, the brunei team standing goes downhill from there..
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SS2 has slightly longer barrel at 460mm and SS1 at 449mm

SS2 also has heavier barrel, so more resistant to heat buildup...

Of course, no matter how skilled the team is, they won't perform well with sub-par rifle.

At least, SS-2 is comparable to current modern rifles, like Austeyr and M16A4..... if not better than average
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post Apr 9 2019, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 9 2019, 11:04 AM)
Likely they will make up the buy or even increase with additional funding requests
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post Apr 9 2019, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Apr 9 2019, 06:42 PM)
SS2 has slightly longer barrel at 460mm and SS1 at 449mm

SS2 also has heavier barrel, so more resistant to heat buildup...

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Most modern assault rifle can do that nowadays, that's a pretty common modification. Changing the barrel
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post Apr 9 2019, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 9 2019, 11:04 AM)
F-35 unit costs keep rising despite promised savings
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My bad, wrong topic
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JASDF F-35A goes missing
A Japan Air Self-Defense Force F-35A has gone missing after taking off from Misawa air base at 7:30pm local time.
http://alert5.com/2019/04/09/jasdf-f-35a-goes-missing/
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post Apr 9 2019, 08:19 PM

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Meanwhile, British Armed Forces being questioned over its continued defence of Brunei after the hudud laws introduced recently

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gavin-wi...runei-ldvgctt30

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-68...tan-Brunei.html

https://www.businessinsider.my/royal-navy-r...m-queen-2019-4/
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post Apr 9 2019, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Apr 9 2019, 06:42 PM)
SS2 has slightly longer barrel at 460mm and SS1 at 449mm

SS2 also has heavier barrel, so more resistant to heat buildup...

Of course, no matter how skilled the team is, they won't perform well with sub-par rifle.

At least, SS-2 is comparable to current modern rifles, like Austeyr and M16A4..... if not better than average
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all the rifles brought to the meet are pretty capable capable weapons, even the old m16s
calling it subpar was a bit of a stretch, they as soldiers shud master their weapons to their fullest potential

QUOTE(balambgarden @ Apr 9 2019, 07:50 PM)
Most modern assault rifle can do that nowadays, that's a pretty common modification. Changing the barrel
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yes its a pretty minor mods
as i said internally its the same
the major ss2 improvement is on the external on the polymer parts, ergonomics, and updated function like rails to cope with the times

QUOTE(balambgarden @ Apr 9 2019, 07:58 PM)
JASDF F-35A goes missing
A Japan Air Self-Defense Force F-35A has gone missing after taking off from Misawa air base at 7:30pm local time.
http://alert5.com/2019/04/09/jasdf-f-35a-goes-missing/
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bad news all around for f35..
summore for brand new stuff

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Mai189
post Apr 9 2019, 09:20 PM

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I would not read too much into that crash let alone any combat jet crash. But if there are issues, it is good that it is found now...


Here is a list of brand new Euro Typhoon crashes...including those when the type was just introduced...

https://fighterjetsworld.com/air/fighter-je...sh-so-far/6127/

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/15088...-just-one-month

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Fat & Fluffy
post Apr 9 2019, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(balambgarden @ Apr 9 2019, 07:50 PM)
Most modern assault rifle can do that nowadays, that's a pretty common modification. Changing the barrel
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I mean, the standard barrel of SS2 is slightly longer and heavier than SS1.

QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Apr 9 2019, 09:14 PM)
all the rifles brought to the meet are pretty capable capable weapons, even the old m16s
calling it subpar was a bit of a stretch, they as soldiers shud master their weapons to their fullest potential
yes its a pretty minor mods
as i said internally its the same
the major ss2 improvement is on the external on the polymer parts, ergonomics, and updated function like rails to cope with the times

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Selection of assault rifle is obviously crucial...of course, M16 is still good and accurate...it has 11 cm grouping at 100 meters. The same team won't perform as good with a AK-47, with average 15 cm grouping at 100 meters.

G36 can be considered as sub par rifle...its barrel is hold in place with a plastic component, which will deform due to excess heat after sustained fire, degrading accuracy significantly and permanently, until repaired.

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Apr 10 2019, 12:19 AM)
I mean, the standard barrel of SS2 is slightly longer and heavier than SS1. 
Selection of assault rifle is obviously crucial...of course, M16 is still good and accurate...it has 11 cm grouping at 100 meters. The same team won't perform as good with a AK-47, with average 15 cm grouping at 100 meters.
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11cm at 100m wont win anything... lol
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Apr 9 2019, 08:19 PM)
Meanwhile, British Armed Forces being questioned over its continued defence of Brunei after the hudud laws introduced recently

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gavin-wi...runei-ldvgctt30

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-68...tan-Brunei.html

https://www.businessinsider.my/royal-navy-r...m-queen-2019-4/
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move their base to Sepanggar lah
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post Apr 9 2019, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Apr 9 2019, 08:19 PM)
Meanwhile, British Armed Forces being questioned over its continued defence of Brunei after the hudud laws introduced recently

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gavin-wi...runei-ldvgctt30

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-68...tan-Brunei.html

https://www.businessinsider.my/royal-navy-r...m-queen-2019-4/
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i bet it will be brush off only la.... laugh.gif

nothing more than that
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post Apr 9 2019, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Apr 9 2019, 10:38 PM)
11cm at 100m wont win anything... lol
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I get it from here....page 2

https://www.krtraining.com/KRTraining/Archi...geSmallArms.pdf
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Apr 10 2019, 01:16 AM)
ohh... u r referring to standard rifles... match grade rifles are diff..
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post Apr 10 2019, 06:25 AM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Apr 9 2019, 10:19 PM)
I mean, the standard barrel of SS2 is slightly longer and heavier than SS1. 
Selection of assault rifle is obviously crucial...of course, M16 is still good and accurate...it has 11 cm grouping at 100 meters. The same team won't perform as good with a AK-47, with average 15 cm grouping at 100 meters.

G36 can be considered as sub par rifle...its barrel is hold in place with a plastic component, which will deform due to excess heat after sustained fire, degrading accuracy significantly and permanently, until repaired.
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Yes, nowadays its just considered a minor modification
You can easily change your barrel to multiple configuration nowadays

Ak-47 was made with different purpose in mind, its just not made for accurate shooting but that does not meant its a subpar weapon nonetheless

G36 simply only had precision issue in high-intensity real combat situation where they used it on full blast like machineguns, which is not recommended
Lithuanian and the Spanish forces which uses the same rifle in the same environment had no issue with them if used correctly
You wont get that issue on competition environment even gun nuts on youtube cant re-create the issue with their guns

They could simply have just gone the british way to improve it like the sa80
which had way2 more problem but i guess it just time to switch to new guns for them

The only subpar weapons is when the weapons itself turned to its owner.. either by simply not working or exploding in your face

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post Apr 10 2019, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Apr 9 2019, 08:19 PM)
Meanwhile, British Armed Forces being questioned over its continued defence of Brunei after the hudud laws introduced recently

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gavin-wi...runei-ldvgctt30

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-68...tan-Brunei.html

https://www.businessinsider.my/royal-navy-r...m-queen-2019-4/
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post Apr 10 2019, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Apr 9 2019, 08:19 PM)
Meanwhile, British Armed Forces being questioned over its continued defence of Brunei after the hudud laws introduced recently
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Time to increase lebensraum and 'peacefully' annex Brunei into soviet sarawak? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 10 2019, 08:16 AM)
Time to increase lebensraum and 'peacefully' annex Brunei into soviet sarawak?  laugh.gif
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These 2 bolded words in the same sentence in this context is wrong on some many levels......

If anything, it should be joint Sabah-Sarawak invasion from east and west,
then Sabah invade Soviet Union Sarawak in Operasi Lebai Merah
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Apr 10 2019, 08:22 AM)
These 2 bolded words in the same sentence in this context is wrong on some many levels......

If anything, it should be joint Sabah-Sarawak invasion from east and west,
then Sabah invade Soviet Union Sarawak in Operasi Lebai Merah
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No need so complicated. Just send a frigate off Bandar Sri Begawan, shoot a cannon shell at the Sultan's palace and send an emmissary afterwards. Confirm surrender. laugh.gif


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