I am no price police but that's a good deal .

Features wise , the SJ800T is the more complete TV , hence the " better " TV but with a higher price tag .


Just remember the LG ones are IPS and Samsung TVs are VA .

This post has been edited by Convael: Oct 26 2018, 12:25 PM

If it's possible , spend a little more for 55 " UK6500 , UK6320 utilizes one of those infamous RGBW TV Panels .


6320 still has the magic remote , just different colors .
The higher end model has a silver matte finish . Beside that , not much of a difference.

This post has been edited by Convael: Oct 28 2018, 01:15 AM

Within your budget , the 55 inches of Sony X7000F is a good deal . It's the brightest entry level 4k TV you can find within this price range.

This post has been edited by Convael: Oct 28 2018, 07:02 PM

Yes

That's the inherent flaws of having low contrast from IPS panels .

The Sony IPS TV has something called " advanced contrast enhancer " settings , which can improve the black levels to a certain extend. But this will crush a lot of dark details and make all the near black / darker scenes lose all their impacts . Sadly there is really no good solution to this. The alternative is to get a VA-TV instead.

Sitting from a distance and watching the TV with some ambient lights on , it should not be too noticeable . This is also why people recommend an IPS TV for a living room which is usually bright and large.

I don't think the UK6300 is more sturdy . Obviously if the screen is being hit by something with really strong force , its going to crack . But normally this shouldn't be happening unless a baseball bat is flying towards the TV screen

Both TV also have a pretty sturdy stands compare to last year , assuming you aren't going to wall mount them.

The disadvantages of RGBW panel are only going to be obvious if you sit very close to the TV . Even then , unless you have another 4K TV beside for a side by side comparison, you will likely not notice the difference.

For a family TV in a living hall, I will say the more user - friendly and intuitive experience from magic remote & webOS , plus the wider viewing angles from this LG TV is definitely going to provide more of an edge to your family viewing experience .

The NU7100 is more suitable for smaller room , darker and solo viewing experience ( due to the narrow viewing angles ) . And most parent don't want their kids watching TV in a very dark room especially if they are very young .


However , if you are truly concerned about the loss of color volumes from RGBW TV , the Sony X7000F is also a good choice . It may be a weebit more expensive though .


Try running some 4k HDR demos to see if you are impressed .

A bunch of free 4k TV demos can be downloaded from here , put it into an USB drive and connect to your TV .


Your TV is a little better since its coverage of color space is wider than the NU7100 series .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 1 2018, 09:10 PM

I believed the Tizen has yet to be updated to support Astro go , only the webOS does.


In your case , I think your decision is the more optimal one as the TV usability and viewing experience for the family is more important than picture quality alone .


This post has been edited by Convael: Oct 30 2018, 11:46 AM

It does support WIFI but only the 2.4 ghz version , not the 5.0 ghz .

Which means if you are trying to stream videos of very high quality bitrate , such as 4k ripped files over the router from your pc / laptop, it is going to be problematic .
But for the casual streaming such as Netflix , Amazon primes and Youtube , it is more than enough as the required bandwidth is much lower ( same goes for the video quality)

^that's a very good deal

1080p should be still quite watchable on a 65 inches 4k screen , 1080p bluray quality videos look almost passable as 4k . 720p on the other hand , may look a little blurry despite most of the big brands TVs come with a good upscaling capability.

Streaming SD content (480p or lower ) is simply too blurry to watch , because the streaming video quality ( bitrate ) is way lower than the source files .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 4 2018, 10:28 PM

How can you tell the picture quality of the TVs from the store ?

Desa home do not calibrate their TV under the same settings AFAIK.
Dynamic / Vivid mode from one TV isn't going to look exactly the same on another as well . The same reason why you are not recommended to use the white balance settings from the review sites.

Especially when displays in shop are usually in their most inaccurate modes , whites are overly blue , colors are oversaturated . This is apparently the most effective way to impress the customers . Without the proper knowledge and equipment , it is impossible to determine the true capabilities of the said TV.

I have heard of shops ( not Desa Home) that were hard at work pushing the sales of a certain brand , intentionally changing the setting of other TV to dimmer mode , while the "star brand" of the month are displayed in the center with dynamic contrast maxed out to steal the spotlight.


Conclusion , what you can see in the shop is fairly limited . You can look at the TV designs , the anti-reflection coatings , the viewing angles , anything but the picture quality .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 5 2018, 08:32 PM

If you are buying TV for your parent , they most probably don't watch enough HDR for the HDR-related features to really matter ( primarily the Nano cell , the Triluminous colors , the Dynamic crystal colors ).


Speaking from experience , the older generation seems to like the LG 's magic remote much more so than other TV remotes .
The LG 'S webOS is also more user friendly and easier to use compare than the other . The Samsung's Tizen is not too bad , but its smart remote is a step downgrade from the LG's magic remote . The Sony Android OS is sluggish , it's really annoying sometimes it can take up to over 10 seconds + to respond . The Philips Android OS is just as slow as the Sony's.


The micro dimming doesn't do much . It tend to dim some of the brighter highlights on screen because the dimming algorithm isn't very advanced at all . It is very identical with Samsung's so called " UHD " dimming.


As for the different colors , you can only really tell the difference when you are looping HDR demos and comparing them with those high end Quantum-Dots TV from Samsung lines . The LG TV probably isn't the best TV to look for high contrast because it is an IPS TV . If you like how the colors on Philips look as an SDR TV , you can probably adjust the settings of the other 3 TV to look like it since all the other 3 support for a wider color space coverage.


In terms of value and features , the NU7400 is probably the best out of the 4 . But for usability , I would probably go for the LG model . If they often watch a lot of content below 1080p , the Sony might be the better pick .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 6 2018, 09:36 AM

X7000F.

Or pay a bit more for the NU7400 which can produce better HDR colors .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 6 2018, 01:25 PM

I actually don't understand what's up with pricing of nu7400 , the 55" is barely 3.2 k but the 65 " is almost double of it .
Especially when the model belongs to one of the basic 4k TV family .


The NU7400 has more smart TV features , such as the smart remote with voice control , cable management , the support of 5ghz WIFI , blue tooth etc etc .
It is also capable of producing HDR colors a bit better than the NU7100 .

Normally I wouldn't suggest paying so much more over the NU7100 , but since you are primarily playing games , the HDR performance should be within your consideration.


Regardless , if you end up paying 5-6k for a 65" TV , might as well get the 65" of NU8000 which is vastly more superior than all of TVs mentioned above.

The 55 inches of NU8000 can also be found at around ~ 4k , possibly lower with all the discount sales on the upcoming 11/11.
It also has a native 100/120hz refresh rate , which will provide a more pleasant experience for watching 24p movies .


NU8000 is superior than any of models mentioned above , especially if we are talking about the performance of HDR.
It is still probably the best mid-range TV you can buy in MY since Sony refuses to release 55/65 inches of X9000F here.

Do take note that the NU8000 is of VA panels ( which has narrow viewing angles ) , thus the best picture quality is only reserved for the seats directly in front of the TV .

Localized pricing isn't exactly new , just like Sony TVs are so much cheaper in China compare to the other region . There are many factors behind it . AFAIK , the SG TV shares many similarities with the MY sets .


First of all , at this price range , one TV isn't definitely better than another. I am simply suggesting a TV that is better suited for your viewing habits .

The primary difference of the two is still the characteristic of VA and IPS screens.
The X7000F is also a bit brighter than NU7100 . My problem with Samsung NU7100 is , their CE dimming always dim the small highlights of the picture which may cause HDR experience to lose some of their impacts . I also find the Sony TV comes packing with better gray uniformity , which is better for watching sports .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 6 2018, 06:13 PM

It does has 4 HDMI ports , but only 2 of them supports full bandwidth (port 2 & 3 ) which is required for 4K HDR signals from game consoles or media players .

(correction the X7000F only has 3 HDMI ports )

The poor black levels and black uniformity is a result of employing IPS Panel as their TV screen . You basically have to sacrifice the contrast ratio for wider viewing angles .
But keep in mind that IPS and VA screens don't look very different in a bright room . The ambient lights from our environment is great at masking the true black levels of the TV .

Which is also why it is very difficult to tell the Picture Quality of TV from the electronic shops , because they are mostly displayed in a bright room.

But in a dim / dark room , poor black levels will be instantly noticeable . If you are watching movies on VA , the letterbox bars from the movies are going to appear inky black without distracting you from the immersion. While the black on IPS TV will appear gray-ish and cloudy at times .

If your room is decently lit , go for the Sony . Otherwise just get the Samsung TV .


The NU8000 is the best choice at this price range for HDR gaming .
The Sony is the next best option if you watch a lot of low resolution content on the TV .

I am not very fond of LG 's mid-range TV , some of them are decent but it just doesn't offer the best bang for your buck.



Nope , the USA TCL division operates on a different team than the European / Chinese one .

The specific TCL models found on Lazada are essentially the European version . All of them are edge-lit TVs , unlike their superior F.A.L.D counterparts from the USA .
These specific models aren't nearly quite as capable as what was reviewed by rting.

Sadly , as of now the choices we have within the Malaysian market is very limited unless you decide to import them which comes with a big risk.

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 8 2018, 04:36 AM

VA .

You can tell the narrow viewing angles easily by moving away from the center of the TV , the colors and brightness will start to look more washed out .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 7 2018, 04:51 AM

My mistake , I thought you were asking about X7500F .

And you are right , the XF70 (X7000F ) only has 3 HDMI inputs indeed .

All of the big brand's 2018 basic 4K TVs , from Panasonic's FX600 , LG's UK6100 & 6300 , Samsung's NU7100 , NU7400 , Sony's X7000F are all limited to 3 HDMI ports.



I wouldn't say better , but more suitable for your usage perhaps .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 8 2018, 06:36 AM

the local TCL model is not the same as the US TCL model R617 .

That particular US model is only available in USA and Canada .



Sony X7500F sounds good .

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 8 2018, 11:19 AM

Or spend a little more for X7500F , it has 4 hdmi ports . It is more or less the same as X7000F.

This post has been edited by Convael: Nov 8 2018, 10:47 AM