All LG sUHD TVs are IPS TVs

It is an acceptable range , you will see the improvement for 4k content but the upgrade is not very significant compare with 65 inches or larger screens.



This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 25 2018, 06:44 PM

I don't think you should be too paranoid , most TV maker at least power on their TV to test and do minor calibrating before shipping out .


If this is a display unit , you can tell easily. Look for small corner of the TV , if it is used it is probably dusty. No matter how hard they try to clean it


If you have an older Samsung remote control from your older TV , you can also check the service menu .
You can no longer access to the hidden service menu with the new TV 's smart remote . Samsung doesn't want people messing with their TV inner settings.


This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 27 2018, 01:51 AM

If you come from the plasma , only very high end LED TV and OLED will be a dramatic improvement for you .


They are much brighter than any Plasma TVs ever existed .

The mid and entry range of LED TV couldn't even come close because Plasma TV has fantastic blacks , almost OLED level of picture quality .

The OLED HDR is the one single biggest improvement human's eye perception can get from a 4k display .
Plasma TV can only get up to 150 nits~ brightness level , the latest OLED can go up to 1000 nits .

This post has been edited by Convael: Oct 2 2018, 02:33 AM

There is no distinct difference between Edge Lit and Direct Lit among the entry level 4k HDR TV .



x7500f is basically a x7000f but comes with Android TV OS . Or you can grab a x7000f and save some money for an android box.

Senheng on 11street has 55 inches of x7500f .



Sony doesn't sell 55 inches X9000F in Malaysia according to their website. The 85 inches is currently retailing at RM 22k.

X1 Xtreme processor is actually a 2017 model, a new X1 Ultimate processor is probably coming out soon on the rumored Z9F to go head2head with LG 's a9 .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 28 2018, 07:42 AM

Samsung NU7100

Samsung MU6100

Sony x7000e and x7000f are also in the same range of price

Philips , like several other brands , they don't nearly have enough testers to test their TV these days .
It is not to say they don't make good TV , they are just not the brand we once know they were .


Samsung , Sony and LG have the user base , they can afford to do more firmware updates and release bugs fixing patches more often than others.

Hisense is a China Brand . They are fairly new in the market , hence the lower price tags.
They are not very experienced yet when it comes making the best TVs on market , it often comes lacking in many different aspects such as color accuracy , menu interface bugs , calibrating problems etc etc .


I have no doubt given time they will rise up to be one of the leader among the TV brands , but that time is not now .

65 inches of x8500f is an IPS panel

or moving to the lower tiers ,

All x7500f models are also IPS panels

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 28 2018, 10:58 AM

Last time I checked , a lot of 2018 Sony 4k TV models are available in IPS panels only .

Particularly the x7500f and x7000f series , so I assume all of their available sizes are also IPS unlike last year's model .


So for Mid range , x8500f are your best bet

For entry level , x7500f and x7000f are all IPS panels



They have several new models this year :

AF8 = Their 2018 OLED

x9000f = VA

x8500f = Mostly IPS , except the 70 inches + models

x8300f = VA

x7500f = IPS

X7000f = IPS like x7500f but not an android tv .


Note : Under special circumstances , they may come with a slightly different model numbers like x8503f or with peculiar size such as 70 inches , 58 inches , these may or may not use the same panel as most of the line . To be sure you may want to confirm with Sony on this , as I don't recognize every warehouse models they have on the market , there are too many of them .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 25 2018, 07:09 AM

2GB is pretty much the standard for most of Sony's TV


LG entry levels 4K TV utilize the RGBW panel , instead of the normal RGB . RGBW replace every 4th of the pixel with a white light . While LG claimed RGBW will help saving electric consumption ( they probably did this to save production cost ), this will have long term effects on the picture quality of the TV.



When displaying a pure white colors , these TV would function like normal RGB TV .
But when the TV switch to colorful scenes , you will notice minor discoloration effects which also cause strange artifact on small ,colorful fonts on the TV screen.

So I would suggest , if your budget allows , spend a few more hundred for other brands if you decide to grab an entry level 4k TV.


Note : LG 's high end models and OLED TVs do not use a RGBW panel .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 28 2018, 05:49 PM

Those are for reference only , different panels have a different out of box color accuracy .So what rtings are using may not be right for you


Just leave it to auto unless you want to hire people to calibrate the screen or you have the tools .

The primary difference between the two is the support of Wide color gamut , which plays an important role in delivering punchy HDR effects .

So you should consider if you play enough HDR games or watch enough HDR movies to justify the extra $$$ for this feature.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 8 2018, 12:48 PM

The 2 are not exactly in the same league .

The 6800x has slightly more features than Samsung's NU7100 , like wide color gamut. Its a mid-range Sharp Android TV.
The NU7100 is Samsung's 2018 most basic 4K TV .

The former is also slightly more expensive . Which is to keep is entirely up to you , the Sharp TV can probably sell for higher price.

This is going to be a pretty long post because that is a long list of " trials " and features you are imposing on the TV , pardon me for the late reply .
The list is pretty comprehensive , it is basically what high end great TVs should have .

Because you are a Plasma TV owner , it is not easy to find a major upgrade in picture quality . So you may have to consider spending more than RM4k to witness a dramatic upgrade in Picture Quality .


1) Full Array Local Dimming
F.A.L.D is an expensive feature that can generally be found in high end TVs like Sony's Z9D , XE90 , XF90, Samsung's Q9FN and Q8FN etc .

What is more important is the performance of the dimming algorithm . Even with the implementation of the same mechanic , the performance can still vary from models to models .

Due to these restriction of FALD " zones " , they are normally only available on larger sizes ( 55 inches or above )

The Q9FN is currently the most impressive F.A.L.D TV to date , despite of some shortcomings . The TV crushes some small details on screen due to its aggressive dimming nature but it can reach a new height of black levels ( and peak brightness ) no consumer LED TV has ever reach before . OLEDs don't need FALD as their pixel levels of light control is unrivaled by any FALD models in existence .


2) HDR
For most people , HDR is nothing more than a luxury . Some may argue that HDR bring more improvement on the picture quality than an upgrade in picture resolution . HDR performance depends on how much you are willing to spend on TVs . The more expensive TVs usually have better performance .

3) RGB TV
Only the entry/mid level of LG's UHD TV use RGBW panels , the other TV brands know better not to cross the line .


4) Input Latency
Most modern 4k TVs have a specific game mode which decrease the input lag for gaming purposes . Some of the Sony's Android TV doesn't do as good as other brands in this field , especially if you plan to play 1080p games on them .


5) Bright Room TV
As a Living Hall room display , you will want a TV that is bright enough to overcome glare from ambient lights , with a good anti reflection screen coating & great viewing angles .
I recommend an OLED if your budget allows because of the unbeatable picture quality and viewing angles . If you are concern of the burn Ins ,you should look for TV that is bright enough to overcome glare with good anti reflection finish . Usually we recommend people to get an IPS TV if it is going be a Living room TV & they don't want an OLED .


6) Picture Quality
You have mentioned that you owned Plasma, it's tough for LCD LED TV to compete with the black levels of Plasma screen . Only the OLEDs can provide any meaningful upgrades from your plasma , Samsung's Q9FN comes very close .

7) For the Harmony elite compatibility, check out this . Simply enter the TV model and it should tell you if a certain TV model is supported .

8) Android OS on a TV can be problematic . Since you have already owned an Android box , it is as you said the feature should be optional for you

9) some other "features" you mentioned are pretty generic and I will just skip them . For audio supports , you can visit their website .
Look for audio section under the TV model specs ,

For eg , the OLED LG C8 was listed as



While the NU7400 on Samsung was listed as


In a nut shell , there are only a handful of them which tick all of condition above.


- The OLED TVs should pass all your " trials " with flying colors . If you are hesitate to spend too much on the newest models , the 55 inches of LG 's B7 and C7 (which are last year's models ) can be found @ RM 6k -7k from various retailers on the market . Being a plasma TV owner previously , I am sure you know how to take care of your TV . The OLEDs too suffer from risk of Burn-Ins like Plasmas but the chance is relatively low .

- Q9FN ticks most of the boxes above except a few ( namely the wide view angles , which can be important for a Living hall TV ) . It has a fantastic screen brightness and anti-glare & reflection screen finish , which means this TV will look great even in the brightest room . Other notable mention include Sony's X9000F , Z9D , X9300E (*) , X9000E

- Moving on , we have these TVs that don't have an efficient Local Dimming system , so the picture quality may be a slight downgrade from the models mentioned above . They still come pretty close though , such as Samsung's Q7FN , Q6FN , NU8000 , Panasonic FX750K , LG SK8500 (***) . The TV models in this range is more affordable for most people .

- Last but not least , we have TVs that don't nearly tick all the boxes but still manage to output an above average picture with a neat set of features , such as Samsung NU7400 , MU7000 , MU8000 ; Sony's X8500F , X8000E , X8500E , X8300F ( all of which are Android TVs ) ; Panasonic 'S FX700K , LG'S SK8000



* This TV doesn't has a F.A.L.D , instead it operates in a more traditional edge-lit dimming manner . However because of the brilliant implementation of mechanic ( Sony calls it Slim Backlight Drive+ ) the result is nothing short of amazing. This particular model is very hard to find in MY now so you will have to look through the shops.

** TVs in bold fonts are mostly IPS screens.

*** Another example of simply being a FALD TV doesn't mean it is doing great . This TV has F.A.L.D but its dimming algorithm is often slow at responding so blooming around fast moving bright object in dark scenes are more obvious and the on/off from dimming zones are more visible in the dark.



On a site note , I am curious why is the 6800x in your candidate list . It doesn't tick many of what you want in the list .
As a whole , the Sharp 6800x is a pretty decent TV , primarily because of the price tag .
Being a mid range TV , the only features Sharp 6800x offer more than the basic models is the Wide Color Gamut Support and Android OS.

Most basic TV models from the big brands have some forms of motion handling features .
The major drawback for 6800x being , it is doesn't has any sort of motion interpolation feature , at all .
Being a 60hz panel TV , this means the TV also can't effectively remove judders from 24p movies playback.

If you an avid fan of sports content & action movies and would like some motion processing features , there are better choices around especially if you have the budget to spare

This post has been edited by Convael: Aug 7 2018, 11:52 AM

You mean the X940E , X940F doesn't exist yet.


Since you're going to put them in a bright room , you will want a decently bright TV . The NU8000 is the brightest among your list.
The Sony and LG's model are IPS TV , so they can be handy if you have guests gathering around your living room from time to time . But they are not as bright as the NU8000.


Q7FN is a pretty big upgrade over NU8000 , it is an unusually bright and colorful TV which makes it a great performing candidate in a living room. The 65 inches can be a little pricey though . You also mentioned PS4 and watching movie , so you will want to give HDR capabilities of the TV a little consideration.




About the 6800x , I know there are definitely quite some fans of this model .

So I am threading carefully here before they swarm over my inbox like the fanbois from other brands .

6800x is a mid range Sharp TV but they are priced closer to basic 4k TV on the market , which is amazing value since you get WCG ( not as wide as those OLEDs and QLEDs ) , impressive contrast ( as expected from a VA TV ) , a 60 inches screen in one package .

But when compare with other mid range TVs , their performance instantly crumbles .
Notably the complete lack of motion handling ( which was confirmed by the Chinese reviewers ) , the mediocre TV brightness ( its the dimmest TV out of the 4 ) , the lack of Dynamic meta data HDR support ( such as HDR 10 + & Dolby Vision ) , the HDR performance also leave a lot to be desired .

It is something they have to compromise for the unbeatable price .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 27 2018, 12:24 PM

Don't buy a TV because it is cheap , unless you don't care about it and just want a screen to watch .
It is important you at least have an expectation what you are buying.


I think X7000F is a pretty neat basic 4K TV . And as usual with Sony TVs , you get great motion handling and picture processing , great input lag.
Not having an Android OS is a plus for Sony TVs , their input lag is usually a little on the high side compare with other brands .

Just know that this is an IPS TV , so you know why you are getting it.

The KS series from 2016 are indeed spectacular TVs , it is just pathetic Samsung keep removing the features from current line up & put them on separate models to sell for higher price .


NU8500 is basically the curved version of NU8000 .

I don't think they are comparable with the KS series because NU8500 / NU8000 isn't a Quantum Dots TV.
If we have to compare , the KS7500 should go head to head with Q7FN , in which the Q7FN is an upgrade in almost everything especially the brightness .

55' of NU8000 is retailing @ RM4199, 65 inches @ RM6299 , that is still quite a bit cheaper than the now 2 years old KS7500 .


The KS series are definitely a looker especially when it comes to HDR performance. They can reach very high peak brightness in small windows , which ensure those shiny small highlights to glitter in dark HDR scenes. While the NU8000 can't reach the same peak brightness but it is overall , a brighter TV .

The one small problem with the KS series is , they can't sustain the same level of brightness they used to display specular highlights . It is mostly a glimpse into the spark and the brightness quickly fall flat on screen . NU8000 and newer QLEDs can maintain the same brightness level for a long time. This is especially noticeable in prolong HDR scenes with bright objects like the torches , the sun , the moon , the stars etc etc .


I've mentioned before Samsung is dropping the ball for their entry~mid range models every year . KS series is a lot more impressive than the 2017's MU series . The 2018 's entry level models of the NU series are disappointing as well.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 29 2018, 08:37 AM

At this price range , HDR really shouldn't be a concern .


TVs within this price range just don't have specs to be classified as "HDR TV" , despite of the brands' claims.

Especially when we consider HDR mastered content are normally dimmer than SDR , if the TV lacks the brightness to show off the HDR highlights the pictures will appear washed out. The UHD Alliance sets the 1000 cd/m2 requirement for HDR for a reason.


If you just want to get a 4k TV & save some money , there are plenty of basic 4k models to choose from . Just pick one you can find cheapest.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 30 2018, 01:02 PM

here

Easy math isn't it ?

Remove the RGBW (LG ) then you are left with a Sony IPS & Samsung VA .
Which one to go will depend on your room condition and seat position .