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ciohbu
post Oct 8 2019, 04:24 PM

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well.. lazada is only a platform... as long as u are not selling illegal stuff like drugs.. they dont care

they dont guarantee original products right ?

so... buy at ur own risk smile.gif
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post Oct 9 2019, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Oct 8 2019, 04:24 PM)
well.. lazada is only a platform... as long as u are not selling illegal stuff like drugs.. they dont care

they dont guarantee original products right ?

so... buy at ur own risk smile.gif
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Basically, things in Lazadamall is better quality because the vendors have been verified. I think their products also have gone through checking from Lazada. However, I don't think it can be 100% as products and be added or removed anytime by vendor.
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post Oct 9 2019, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(guestabc @ Oct 4 2019, 01:37 PM)
Shopee Seller Name : paulhew

Lazada  Seller Name : ECAS

i compare product buy at Petronas Gas Station ,the color look so different,1 look dark dirty and smelly,from gas station look clear and clean no smell. (you guy can buy 1 liter from gas station and compare with it ). (original or fake you guy decide).100%fake for me.
make in (EU) product just a scammer tactic. (just buy 1 liter at gas station to compare product you buy at online, you will know the different)
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Darn it! I also bought from this seller after getting so many recommendation from other users that this guy is selling genuine product. Now I scared to use this in my car!
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 8 2019, 04:07 PM)
Really?
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Does he means his products are sourced from Vanli Auto? If yes then most probably it is genuine cause Vanli auto is a big group and they will be shooting themselves in the leg if they sell fake products.
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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 9 2019, 04:05 PM)
Does he means his products are sourced from Vanli Auto? If yes then most probably it is genuine cause Vanli auto is a big group and they will be shooting themselves in the leg if they sell fake products.
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Do the explanation are true?
Mean malaysia spec do differ in colour vs says europe. Or it just a fake/recycle oil?
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post Oct 9 2019, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 9 2019, 04:05 PM)
Does he means his products are sourced from Vanli Auto? If yes then most probably it is genuine cause Vanli auto is a big group and they will be shooting themselves in the leg if they sell fake products.
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then why not buy from vanli directly ? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

no pic no proof
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post Oct 9 2019, 11:45 PM

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Hi All,

Probably i should share this with you guys. See picture below comparing Castrol Malaysia and Europe that I bought from Tesco in Paradigm mall. What do you guys think? I think this is not about the seller selling fake oil, which I don't think so it's fake probably just certified recycled oil, but more towards where the oil was made. I read somewhere that EU has regulation that require most of its EO to be recycled. That could explain why the color is darker compare to local EO.

As for Paulhew, I have asked Van-li through Shopee chat box and they are partners/joint venture. Refer to attached screen captured. So do tell me what can you conclude from here?

Those who want to be safe, simple, don't buy EU made EO. Just buy those EO made for Japanese car like Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Mitsui sell by Van-li and Paulhew. See if the color is the same as the EO that you can buy from the official SC. Do report back here the findings. I was told Nissan EO (fully synthetic) sell by Paulhew is genuine and has the same color as the official SC.

Let me know what's your thought on this biggrin.gif

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report these useless junk in this world

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QUOTE(CoffeeMiloTea @ Oct 9 2019, 11:45 PM)
Hi All,

Probably i should share this with you guys. See picture below comparing Castrol Malaysia and Europe that I bought from Tesco in Paradigm mall. What do you guys think? I think this is not about the seller selling fake oil, which I don't think so it's fake probably just certified recycled oil, but more towards where the oil was made. I read somewhere that EU has regulation that require most of its EO to be recycled. That could explain why the color is darker compare to local EO.

As for Paulhew, I have asked Van-li through Shopee chat box and they are partners/joint venture. Refer to attached screen captured. So do tell me what can you conclude from here?

Those who want to be safe, simple, don't buy EU made EO. Just buy those EO made for Japanese car like Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Mitsui sell by Van-li and Paulhew. See if the color is the same as the EO that you can buy from the official SC. Do report back here the findings. I was told Nissan EO (fully synthetic) sell by Paulhew is genuine and has the same color as the official SC. 

Let me know what's your thought on this  biggrin.gif
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hoho, now dive deeper there's also no proof/verification process guarantee those hypermarket oil are genuine imported. if they direct import by themselves then still can control, how if they sourced from 3rd party (middleman from europe or local)? i still remember previously my hypermarket engine oil actually have the sticker stating imported by a local spare part shop name (somewhere from PJ, i googled and found it's a small spare part shop), can't remember from shell helix ultra or castrol magnatec i purchased from hypermarket.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 10 2019, 12:13 AM)
hoho, now dive deeper there's also no proof/verification process guarantee those hypermarket oil are genuine imported. if they direct import by themselves then still can control, how if they sourced from 3rd party (middleman from europe or local)? i still remember previously my hypermarket engine oil actually have the sticker stating imported by a local spare part shop name (somewhere from PJ, i googled and found it's a small spare part shop), can't remember from shell helix ultra or castrol magnatec i purchased from hypermarket.
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Kawan if those oil are fake wouldn't the authority takes action especially those who sell genuine oil? Why till now for so many years no action taken? No data that say the EO are actually fake. All just play guessing. Besides are recycled oil fake oil if done right and follow the European standard? No one can proof or disproof it. All hearsay and look at color only and that justify your statement of fake oil being used. Come on la dude.

Still, with all that said EU EO is not going to be in my prefer list. Hahahahaha.

This post has been edited by CoffeeMiloTea: Oct 10 2019, 12:53 AM
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post Oct 10 2019, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(ckseong80 @ Oct 8 2019, 04:09 PM)
The packaging already different.
One should be local and the other should be Europe.
Local uses fresh lubricant oil.

In Europe most oils (>50%) are re-refined or recycled because of regulations there to be more environmentally friendly.
That's why they look darker and have some smell.
The re-refined oils still have a specification to meet so it should be OK.

Both should be genuine oil so don't worry.
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I think we have to give benefit of the doubt.

checking these videos , even if not exact same oil, to my eyes definitely looks darker , and these are 2 year old videos , in fact 5000 looks the darkest , so if 800 is even darker probably means it has more synthetic in the blend





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post Oct 10 2019, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Oct 10 2019, 06:24 AM)
I think we have to give benefit of the doubt.

checking these videos , even if not exact same oil, to my eyes definitely looks darker , and these are 2 year old videos , in fact 5000 looks the darkest , so if 800 is even darker probably means it has more synthetic in the blend




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You're right. 5W30 looks slightly darker. I paused all 3 videos and compared the color. Understood that 5W30 should be slightly worse in protecting the metal wear from 5W40 but what I didn't know is that 10W40 perform comparably with 5W30. You may be right also in saying that darker could have more synthetic blend in it but still all these are just based on what we think and not fact with data. One thing is true though is that hypermarket most likely will not sell fake oil. I have asked all 3 i.e. Giant, Jusco and Tesco how they ensure the EO is genuine through FB messenger and of course their response is quite generic where they talk about quality control is very stringent blah blah blah. But I still think they will personally verify the credibility of the seller before actually allowing them to put stock into their stores. The sellers, even though they may think of ways to make huge profit I believe they won't daringly put so call all local recycled oil into the shelves. With so many users commented that they used hypermarket EO for so many damn years without any issue I think it is still safe to buy. The catch is change EO when it's about time (6 months) or reach the certain mileage (SS at 7k, FS at 10k). To be much safer then just buy EO made for Japanese car lo from reputable seller like Vanli and Paulhew. Afterall it's just oil only mah. I'm going with the latter approach biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by CoffeeMiloTea: Oct 10 2019, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 10 2019, 12:13 AM)
hoho, now dive deeper there's also no proof/verification process guarantee those hypermarket oil are genuine imported. if they direct import by themselves then still can control, how if they sourced from 3rd party (middleman from europe or local)? i still remember previously my hypermarket engine oil actually have the sticker stating imported by a local spare part shop name (somewhere from PJ, i googled and found it's a small spare part shop), can't remember from shell helix ultra or castrol magnatec i purchased from hypermarket.
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If tesco/ giant indeed sell fake shell helix oil, shell malaysia, kpdnkk can come and take some action. Same goes to few online lazada shoppe eo seller, kpdnkk come surprise visit n kantoi those fake oil seller.

I have bought shell helix tesco since 2012 until now. No problems whatsoever. Just this time only take risk buy mobil 1 from vanli. As i need 5L bottles pack.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2019, 08:42 AM)
If tesco/ giant indeed sell fake shell helix oil, shell malaysia, kpdnkk can come and take some action. Same goes to few online lazada shoppe eo seller, kpdnkk come surprise visit n kantoi those fake oil seller.

I have bought shell helix tesco since 2012 until now. No problems whatsoever. Just this time only take risk buy mobil 1 from vanli.  As i need 5L bottles pack.
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Exactly.
IMHO, the demonstrated Petronas oil is NOT fake not that I financially benefited from this seller one paulhew.

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So until now still no solid proof its fake oil?
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 10 2019, 08:42 AM)
If tesco/ giant indeed sell fake shell helix oil, shell malaysia, kpdnkk can come and take some action. Same goes to few online lazada shoppe eo seller, kpdnkk come surprise visit n kantoi those fake oil seller.

I have bought shell helix tesco since 2012 until now. No problems whatsoever. Just this time only take risk buy mobil 1 from vanli.  As i need 5L bottles pack.
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Agreed. Im pretty sure of the manufacturer really 100% confirm these supermarket/online sellers are selling fake oil they will report to kpdnkk and they will take actions.
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QUOTE(CoffeeMiloTea @ Oct 9 2019, 11:45 PM)
Hi All,

Probably i should share this with you guys. See picture below comparing Castrol Malaysia and Europe that I bought from Tesco in Paradigm mall. What do you guys think? I think this is not about the seller selling fake oil, which I don't think so it's fake probably just certified recycled oil, but more towards where the oil was made. I read somewhere that EU has regulation that require most of its EO to be recycled. That could explain why the color is darker compare to local EO.

As for Paulhew, I have asked Van-li through Shopee chat box and they are partners/joint venture. Refer to attached screen captured. So do tell me what can you conclude from here?

Those who want to be safe, simple, don't buy EU made EO. Just buy those EO made for Japanese car like Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Mitsui sell by Van-li and Paulhew. See if the color is the same as the EO that you can buy from the official SC. Do report back here the findings. I was told Nissan EO (fully synthetic) sell by Paulhew is genuine and has the same color as the official SC.  

Let me know what's your thought on this  biggrin.gif
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Castrol Malaysia is from Paulhew and Castrol European is from Tesco? Didn't Paulhew said his oil is imported from EU? Tesco's EO are imported from EU also, right?

This post has been edited by abubin: Oct 10 2019, 10:17 AM
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post Oct 10 2019, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 10 2019, 10:17 AM)
Castrol Malaysia is from Paulhew and Castrol European is from Tesco? Didn't Paulhew said his oil is imported from EU? Tesco's EO are imported from EU also, right?
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I personally bought and I believe I have made it clear. Why is it still not clear to you? It's either you don't believe which entirely up to you or just believe it.

This post has been edited by CoffeeMiloTea: Oct 10 2019, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(CoffeeMiloTea @ Oct 10 2019, 10:27 AM)
I personally bought and I believe I have made it clear. Why is it still not clear to you? It's either you don't believe which entirely up to you or just believe it.
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to put all doubt to 0%, better buy from Petrol station with a retail price.

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one thing to ask, is the Lexus Fully Synthetic sold online are related to Lexus Car brand?

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