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 LYN Proton X70 SUV Owners and Fans Thread V1!, It's in the Drive... Siram Siram!

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l2k
post Jan 18 2019, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 18 2019, 11:49 AM)
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but if you calculate the total cost savings from better FC, even at 2k km monthly mileage, for 5 years, cannot beat the 30k cheaper car price of the X70
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You are correct in terms of total cost of ownership, there are, however, other side effects like having to visit petrol station more often, hard to predict if your petrol can cover x distance especially in highway (suddenly stuck in jam). I mean these are more like mental effect if you ask me. Usually only engineers or Technical oriented people will think like you. If not, you won’t be seeing people lining up to refill petrol even the price only goes up by ten cents.

I mean, Malaysian mindset tends to place fuel consumption in a rather high spot,if not you won’t be seeing more Alza than Exora in the road, despite the latter offer higher power, bigger space and drivability.

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post Jan 19 2019, 04:37 PM

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1 tank 380km achievable...
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post Jan 19 2019, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Twins10 @ Jan 18 2019, 10:16 AM)
Fuel is biggest turn off as many reported 14.5litre per 100km...that's really high n thirsty .

What about other suv consumption?

I think cx5, crv n tiguan are contenders.

If all have similar fc, then it's acceptable.

Booked x70...like all features except fuel. Gonna use it daily for highway.
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X70 is the heaviest among all competitor so not surprise the x70 fuel consumption is the highest among all. The difference about 120-200kg heavier than competitor, you can check at the table comparison from pautan website.
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post Jan 19 2019, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Twins10 @ Jan 18 2019, 11:16 AM)
Fuel is biggest turn off as many reported 14.5litre per 100km...that's really high n thirsty .

What about other suv consumption?

I think cx5, crv n tiguan are contenders.

If all have similar fc, then it's acceptable.

Booked x70...like all features except fuel. Gonna use it daily for highway.
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I read some overseas blog and yes, boyue has very high fuel consumption.. and the computer does not show the actual FC.

my 2.0 4motion tiguan registers around 8km/l city and 12km/l highway. the new 1.4 tiguan is much better.

cx5 skyactive and crv earthdream are good too.

10 to 12km/l are pretty much standard for suv with 4wheel/all wheel. 2wheel drive suv should register better FC.

so sorry, x70/boyue FC is below average in its class.
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QUOTE(Twins10 @ Jan 19 2019, 04:37 PM)
1 tank 380km achievable...
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The fuel capacity around 60L. 380km is not good. Around 15L/100km. My x70 is also around 14-15L/100km if i dont behave my foot 😂
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post Jan 19 2019, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(luvox @ Jan 19 2019, 08:05 PM)
The fuel capacity around 60L. 380km is not good. Around 15L/100km. My x70 is also around 14-15L/100km if i dont behave my foot 😂
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very high. My Serena of 1.6 tonne and 2L engine, can definitely get more than 400KM per tank, under any kind of traffic, and my full tank is usually 45L only, since I dont drive until the tank dry.
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post Jan 20 2019, 06:51 AM

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Some reported close to 10l per 100km. Assume the computer had 20% error, it's 12l 100km. Still scary.

Every 380km refuel, lucky we have lots of pitstops.

I guess the premium with 19 inch most thirsty n the 17 inch basic is most economical.
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post Jan 20 2019, 11:09 AM

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Fuhhh. So its true minyak kuat makan?

It’s a boss-boss car then. Deep pocket.
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post Jan 20 2019, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Jan 19 2019, 11:01 PM)
very high. My Serena of 1.6 tonne and 2L engine, can definitely get more than 400KM per tank, under any kind of traffic, and my full tank is usually 45L only, since I dont drive until the tank dry.
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Serena not hybrid meh?🤔 Also small tyre.
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post Jan 20 2019, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(luvox @ Jan 19 2019, 09:05 PM)
The fuel capacity around 60L. 380km is not good. Around 15L/100km. My x70 is also around 14-15L/100km if i dont behave my foot 😂
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In reality the FC will be less.. because need to deduct reserve fuel from the 60l capacity.
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QUOTE(Effy92 @ Jan 20 2019, 11:45 AM)
Serena not hybrid meh?🤔 Also small tyre.
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Serene is mild hybrid. Electric motor to support petrol engine stop start when the car stopping at traffic
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post Jan 20 2019, 05:04 PM

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Just read that Mazda cx5 increased their free maintenance to 5 years 100000km n got disc to rm129k. Is this true? T.v. also good after 5 years still 77k.

So x70 vs suv king Mazda cx5?
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Saw one on the road
Design nice
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QUOTE(luvox @ Jan 18 2019, 05:04 PM)
NVH is very good. When crusing at low speed, u cant feel ur tyres, n like driving a space ship. 😂

Sound system average, readjust the equalizer only gives some small improvement, not a good system for audiophile, the bass is too soft even for premium with subwoofer
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Honestly, Chinese car is quiet. I was in Shanghai for a month. Their local cars also very quiet. Barely engine sound inside car.
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post Jan 23 2019, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(l2k @ Jan 18 2019, 07:45 PM)
You are correct in terms of total cost of ownership, there are, however, other side effects like having to visit petrol station more often, hard to predict if your petrol can cover x distance especially in highway (suddenly stuck in jam). I mean these are more like mental effect if you ask me. Usually only engineers or Technical oriented people will think like you. If not, you won’t be seeing people lining up to refill petrol even the price only goes up by ten cents.

I mean, Malaysian mindset tends to place fuel consumption in a rather high spot,if not you won’t be seeing more Alza than Exora in the road, despite the latter offer higher power, bigger space and drivability.
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I agree with you on this sir and to be fair it is more on cost saving nowadays. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ask_dino @ Jan 23 2019, 10:32 AM)
I agree with you on this sir and to be fair it is more on cost saving nowadays.  smile.gif
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Lower FC also hv high resale value 😂
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At the end of the day, if the buyer wishes to buy with full loan at 9 years, best they rethink again.

The maintenance of the SUV isn't going to be cheap. 19" SUV tyres aren't cheap (yeah, Ling Long brand pun ada, boleh jimat duit... LOL). The ATF is RM500 every 3 years, coolant RM119 every 3 years, spark plugs RM112 yearly. Fuel consumption is gonna be hell as it's 1.7 tons beast (not your 1.2 tons B segment Japanese car). Wait till you see the price of the shock absorbers & lower arm bushings, these gotta carry a 1.7 ton car.

The RV isn't gonna be great too, so you'll end up having to pay back the bank hire-purchase should you decide to sell before 9 years.

In short, if you're just about making ends meet, think again coz your pocket can't support your desire.
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post Jan 23 2019, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Jan 23 2019, 12:36 PM)
At the end of the day, if the buyer wishes to buy with full loan at 9 years, best they rethink again.

The maintenance of the SUV isn't going to be cheap. 19" SUV tyres aren't cheap (yeah, Ling Long brand pun ada, boleh jimat duit... LOL). The ATF is RM500 every 3 years, coolant RM119 every 3 years, spark plugs RM112 yearly.  Fuel consumption is gonna be hell as it's 1.7 tons beast (not your 1.2 tons B segment Japanese car). Wait till you see the price of the shock absorbers & lower arm bushings, these gotta carry a 1.7 ton car.

The RV isn't gonna be great too, so you'll end up having to pay back the bank hire-purchase should you decide to sell before 9 years.

In short, if you're just about making ends meet, think again coz your pocket can't support your desire.
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thumbsup.gif Kinda agree with you. Face value wise, x70 does look appealing, but I think those who can really afford x70 should be from the group that able to afford those like ~>130k ish cars like cx5 low spec.

For those who are thinking to stretch their financial to step up from cars B-seg like Honda City or even HRV should think twice due to the reasons you stated above.

For example, x70 probably consume almost close to 2x the fuel of Honda city (based on some users feedback above that it can touch 12-14L/100km, and a Honda city typically average around 7-9L/km, both mixed driving), if B-seg needs to pump RM200 per month, then x70 will need RM300-400 per month. Not mentioning other maintenance cost.
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post Jan 23 2019, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Jan 23 2019, 12:36 PM)
At the end of the day, if the buyer wishes to buy with full loan at 9 years, best they rethink again.

The maintenance of the SUV isn't going to be cheap. 19" SUV tyres aren't cheap (yeah, Ling Long brand pun ada, boleh jimat duit... LOL). The ATF is RM500 every 3 years, coolant RM119 every 3 years, spark plugs RM112 yearly.  Fuel consumption is gonna be hell as it's 1.7 tons beast (not your 1.2 tons B segment Japanese car). Wait till you see the price of the shock absorbers & lower arm bushings, these gotta carry a 1.7 ton car.

The RV isn't gonna be great too, so you'll end up having to pay back the bank hire-purchase should you decide to sell before 9 years.

In short, if you're just about making ends meet, think again coz your pocket can't support your desire.
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QUOTE(l2k @ Jan 23 2019, 04:56 PM)
thumbsup.gif Kinda agree with you. Face value wise, x70 does look appealing, but I think those who can really afford x70 should be from the group that able to afford those like ~>130k ish cars like cx5 low spec.

For those who are thinking to stretch their financial to step up from cars B-seg like Honda City or even HRV should think twice due to the reasons you stated above.

For example, x70 probably consume almost close to 2x the fuel of Honda city (based on some users feedback above that it can touch 12-14L/100km, and a Honda city typically average around 7-9L/km, both mixed driving), if B-seg needs to pump RM200 per month, then x70 will need RM300-400 per month. Not mentioning other maintenance cost.
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I did think all of these points over, my wife and kids mahu the X70 due to the brown nappa leather interior, extremely nice look & feel, the sunroof especially, and all the bell & whistle. The CX5 im looking at would have to be the 2.2D or the CR-V TC-P in order to compete with the features offered in the X70, thats a clear ~40K difference.

Stretching everything over 5 years, including higher FC, higher maintenance (30k change spark plug, WTH?) and all that, it will only come to ~RM8k in all these extra compared to CRV and >RM10k to CX-5 since that one comes with free 5Y service.

If you betul2 jenis tukar kereta here and there, do not take the X70 laaa, Proton/Geely RV will take some generations to match T&H RV. So overall, i still save over RM20k for (IMHO) nicer interior look and feel, OK looking exterior, beaten only by the CX5, and bigger internals (kalah to CRV).

And yes, this Proton is not your typical Proton, for the common Malaysian in term of financial strain. Even malaysian T20 also financially could not afford the car, apa lagi the M40 and B40. /k standard no hal la.
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QUOTE(ijan @ Jan 23 2019, 11:20 PM)
I did think all of these points over, my wife and kids mahu the X70 due to the brown nappa leather interior, extremely nice look & feel, the sunroof especially, and all the bell & whistle. The CX5 im looking at would have to be the 2.2D or the CR-V TC-P in order to compete with the features offered in the X70, thats a clear ~40K difference.

Stretching everything over 5 years, including higher FC, higher maintenance (30k change spark plug, WTH?) and all that, it will only come to ~RM8k in all these extra compared to CRV and >RM10k to CX-5 since that one comes with free 5Y service.

If you betul2 jenis tukar kereta here and there, do not take the X70 laaa, Proton/Geely RV will take some generations to match T&H RV. So overall, i still save over RM20k for (IMHO) nicer interior look and feel, OK looking exterior, beaten only by the CX5, and bigger internals (kalah to CRV).

And yes, this Proton is not your typical Proton, for the common Malaysian in term of financial strain. Even malaysian T20 also financially could not afford the car, apa lagi the M40 and B40. /k standard no hal la.
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I booked the executive version but love the nappa leather and extra features in the premium. Not sure about the sunroof.

The executive looks good in grey and matches the interior leatherette seats.

The premium looks best in cinnamon Brown to match nappa leather. Of course other colors look good.

Seriously this x70 target those buyers looking at rm150k range.

Nobody in their right mind would buy this suv if they can only afford to maintain a aruz class.

Though the qualifier for rm100k loan is rm4k, the buyers for this baby easily earns 3x that minimum.

Paul tan wrote cost of maintenance is rm1k more than crv over 5 years but the savings of 40k more than offset the cost of petrol, rv and running costs I hope.



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