not much different i think. avf only comes with blue switch? i have tecware phantom brown switch feels good and quite sturdy overall for below 200 mech. i think you should find shop that can test the keyboard 1st.

id take phantom

Between the two, I would take Tecware just because of the board design and the keycaps legend alone.

Cz mxrgb9 coming with wrist rest... And tecware I read review some complain wrist will feel tired due to the higher design of keyboard... Really? Do u guys bought along the techware wrist pad?

actually you can always get after-market wrist rests if necessary; not really sure why they complained about this

https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comment..._trades_paypal/

I'm thinking to get half of the zealencios.. anyone interested in taking the other half?

After 3 days of using it at work it definitely feeling way more awesome.

On second thought travel distance is not need at the moment. Trying to improve my keystroke force switching from membrane.

On a side note, kinda glad that I didnt make the impulse decision on getting a set of RM100ish PBT online after doing more research on keycap material affect on typing feel. How many of you are using wrist rest btw? Other than the aesthetics side of things to "complete" the look, does it actually help reduce strain? Im currently typing feet retracted. Also tried experimenting removing keycap with stabiliser, in my case i picked the right shift and if anything goes wrong I dont use it often It was quite easy to remove but not so much to install if you do it like I did (without removing surrounding keys first beforehand) Gained some experience today. Also notice it was lubed? Heard it somewhere that by lubing you could dampen the sound a little? How about "smoothness" as that is what lube means to me. TIA.

hehe nice

er.. why not? with 100ish myr at taobao, you can get a good set of thick pbt already (not pretty, but improve typing feels by a good margin if stock caps are thin abs) i use wristrest. imo it's helpful to me for the way i type. (palms on the wristrest, fingers on the keys)

in general it's not hard to remove caps from costar stabs. you just need practices. yes it's relatively more convenient with cherry style stabs, but costar stabs are much more easier to lube and maintain.

lubing helps make large keys smooth, minimize wire rattles, and dampen noise by a bit.

It is indeed hard to install when they are kikaps around ur stabilizer key.
the hardest would be "enter" and " right-shift" since 1 is on top of another.
install enter 1st before right shift.
sekian.

but as horns said it, the reason i stay with Filco is the ease of lubing the stabs.

it isn't that hard removing keycaps from the costar stabs tbh, what i did was place the stabs into the keycaps and then 'hook' them onto the metal. but now im with this cherry stabs and i like it more cause of how plug n play it is

now im banging ur costar stabs.

piap piap

Yes was considering one of those OEM PBT sets from aliexpress. Heard that SA is better with heavier switch, any has experience on this could share?
I will just get a wristrest to try out since its not that expensive. Totally agree, not extremely difficult, just practice.

I kind of picked the 2nd hardest key on my board
For lubing part, maybe in the near future coz it should be very time consuming especially for newbie like myself.
Will do more research on that.


Yes that was one out of two most common ways of installing keys with stabiliser. As horns mentioned earlier, all we need is practice. Practice makes perfect.

kek i bet you lubed it as well

i'm fine with oem and cherry profiles. sa is too tall for me, and dsa is too flat lol

just take your time to learn about costar stabilizers. it's very easy to maintain because you can disassemble them right away. the lubing process is very simple: take off caps, push wires away from stabilizer housings to detach it (be careful don't bent it), apply lubes on clipping areas that hold wires, wires and wire tips, and inserts. finally put them back together.

again, like you said, practice makes perfect

wanna buy keycaps from this store => https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=5279650..._u=t2dmg8j26111

which package should i choose if i have Corsair K70?. thanks in advance.

Same as Logitech G710+ (Refer here)

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i guess the "pirate ship" series was actually mean the corsair (logo)

Yes. “Pirate ship" slang is used to refer to Corsair in China due to their logo.

anyone got a thick pbt set they want to let go?

Guess I will just have to trial and error on the keycap types. Before knowing different types of keycaps i just simply chose the favourite colour combination which is currently the Dolch now
Lubing isnt hard but it takes time and lots of energy to focus coz they are such tiny parts