agree much on that.

if the kibod switches is hot swap, lubing is a must !

definitely. rugi big time if it's not done tbh

just now i went and tested tecware phantom elite. this time, various switches (linear, tactile and clicky) from kailh box (kailh box red, brown, white) and gateron (i think i saw red, black, brown, and blue) are installed on the demonstration unit at that shop.

from my brief tests, tecware phantom elite is relatively better than old models. it's too bad i couldn't test its space bars and mods. (no caps installed)

.. and there is ducky one. well, its mods and space bar need serious and proper fixes (it's really in bad shape, a lot of wire rattles)

Where did you do the testing of the switches? Did the shop sell loose switches too?

anyone know where can i get Drevo BladeMaster TE in msia?
sifus, what do you think of this keyboard? is it worth getting for $89?


This post has been edited by Akatsuki0895: Feb 19 2019, 10:22 PM

gadgetzone in digital mall. the demonstration unit is like this:



i didn't ask if they sell switches. i was in a hurry

i think you can only import it. it's a kickstarter project.

if you liked its features, then go ahead. however from the videos at youtube, it's not that well-tuned i think.



This post has been edited by horns: Feb 20 2019, 11:56 AM


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i am actually asking on behalf of my friend ..
i myself not really into other switches other than cherry mx.
what do u think of gateron switches compared to cherry mx in terms of reliability and durability?
and do you mind elaborating on the keyboard not being that well-tuned? not an mkb expert

This post has been edited by Akatsuki0895: Feb 20 2019, 03:17 AM

oh it's for your friend.

not quite sure about reliability and durability of gateron switches compared to cherry mx. it might depend on things like switch type and usage. well, they're affordable, so you can replace them when they have gone bad.

from the videos i watched, space bar and modifiers have wire rattles, hence make bad typing noise. good stabilizers have minimal to no wire rattles, hence are relatively quiet and have nicer typing feels. although they can probably be fixed by modding them, i like boards that have them tuned.

my friend's budget is less than rm 400 and he is finding for a tkl mkb ( preferable with rgb backlit)... what keyboard models/keyboard brands would sifu suggest?
dont have to be a gaming keyboard but just want a quality mkb.

in reality, we don't have many options in local market. for that budget i suggest looking for options from varmilo, filco, durgod, or ikbc at taobao/tmall/aliexpress. however, these brands have no local presence here. (think warranty if your friend is concerned about it) also, with that price range, they are mostly without rgb backlit. (some are non-backlit)

the above is about typical soldered oem boards. your friend can also opt for modular boards, like tecware phantom elite. switches are hot swappable, so mods and tuning can be done, and you get to install switches of your choice, without soldering/desoldering processes. tecware phantom elite is better than its older models because it uses kailh switch sockets. however currently it only has full-size option. there is no tkl yet

finally, please suggest to your friend to at least find out what he wants for switch types, and ask him to try out first-hand before purchase. this is the least he should do.

which kailh switch is closest to a mx red? kailh reds?

thanks for the tips... will let my fren know about it

it should be kailh red. kailh box has shorter travel distance.

You can look for Ban Leong distributor, they have CM and Razer brand.

what about mx silent reds?

mx silent red has a slightly shorter travel distance also, due to its dampening bumps.

however you might not be able to feel the difference, in terms of travel distance.

any1 here with tecware phantom elite?
i am using gatheron switches..some of them dont sit tight in the hole...this makes the keys dont align horizontally as one or two keys will be more tilted than others

is this the switch problem or the metal board problem?

Not plate cutting (u remove switch will see cutting still same), switch (you check got bent pins or not).

It's the socket on the PCB. Reported in since they launched, they have QC issue like this.. <--

So, the simple fix is, disassemble the board, and reseat the socket properly.

The socket looks like this



This post has been edited by quovadis123: Mar 1 2019, 12:15 AM

U mean need to check the 2 pins hole on the pcb?

he means the sockets not being seated properly on the pcb (the black pieces that have 2-pin holes in the picture) this is manufacturing defect. if this happened, the shop should be able to arrange replacement of the board for you.

however it's better to check if this is caused by switches first. switch installation is simple, but bent pins will be common if you're not patient enough.

usually how much will it cost to arrange replacement?