i didnt know bout this geez... as i see its on promotion... i bought it.. some people bought it for rm375.. combo with mouse.. bought it for 439 anyway...

really?

as long as you like it, it's all good.

typing feels on these prebuilt oem mkbs can always be improved further. for instance, if thick pbt/abs caps are used, and stabilizers are lubed with at least dielectric grease (to get rid of wire rattles). hence it's kind of important for oem boards that they can at least let us replace stock key caps.

mkbs, especially switches, last very long. (it will take quite a long time to type on each key for even 10 million times) what i do not have confidence on are their led and stock key caps.

i have a corsair k70 rgb. its stock caps have worn off after just few months of heavy use. upon close inspection, well, the paint is very thin. later i got corsair's thick pbt cap set and had them replaced. (this idea was from their community. however it took corsair years to understand the situation, and came out with good 1.5mm translucent pbt sets)

i see.. what is your opinion with tecware mech? like Tecware Phantom RGB TKL, and switches are removable without soldering.

They now moving back to cherry clone switch. They introduced GX Blue (Kailh Switch in fact), for latest model.
But, you also no need afraid as I said, Romer-G switches is available in after market for replacement.

The good thing they moved back to Cherry compatible, is logi fans can now enjoy using other keycaps than the stock keycaps.

As long as you like your keyboard, just use it. This market need more keyboard variation anyway.

Yes, Tecware board is hotswap board, can replace the switch without desolder.

But, you must aware, this Tecware only applied to Outemu switch alone, since the board hotswap only can pop in the thin legs switch like Outemu.
If you try with gateron / cherry / kailh switch, the copper legs will bent and still can't pop in and use it.

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The newer Tecware board Phantom Elite, on the other hands using Kailh sockets hotswap, allowed all cherry compatible switch to pop in. But the price is a higher than older models.

This post has been edited by quovadis123: Jan 8 2019, 02:29 PM

thanks for sharing. I actually try to avoid brand like logi/corsair/razer all those gaming keyboards now, but was surprise to read about logi giving up on romer switches.

Branded is like introductory level for mechanical keyboards.
Everyone will buy those branded in the first time when they introduced to mechanical keyboard.
But, when the user getting more demanding towards the keyboard quality, they will need step up to the next level.
So, they will avoid those "gimmick" brands, since gimmick don't provide the feel you want.

Wish you the best for the future boards you will get.

mkbs like tecware phantom rgb tkl are what we call modular boards. like quovadis123 pointed out, older models only support outemu switches. new models (phantom elite) on the other hand support switches from other brands. although the price is increased slightly, it's better to get new models.

personally i like modular boards for many reasons, mostly related to the keyword, convenience:
1. they allow on-the-fly switch replacements. this means a lot to me: i can get compatible switches that i wanna try out, pop them in, and start typing.
2. i can modify switches (lube them; change parts in switches, e.g. housings, springs) and use them on-the-fly.
3. i can fine-tune them to make them much better. relatively. honestly i don't like tecware mkbs when they are at stock configurations, e.g. scratchy switches, bad implementations of stabilizers, lots of pings, to name a few, however, unlike other soldered oem boards, all these can be tweaked to certain extents,w ithout going through desoldering/soldering. the end results will always be better than stock, or many other oem boards in the market.

all thanks to switch hot-swapping. the best thing is that tecware mkbs are affordable, but they provide more values than those overpriced branded gaming boards imo.

one thing you should know: the above doesn't mean they are as well-built as soldered builds. soldered builds are still better than modular boards in several ways, provided that they are fine-tuned properly. only few oem options have those good qualities. this is why we use modular boards as test boards for combos that we wanna have, test and fine-tune them when necessary, then build them into soldered customs.

once you know more about mkb basics, you will find that nothing on those gaming boards can impress you.

on a side note, gaming boards at least need to be durable, at least they should withstand heavy use (not rage quits). for so many years, in their marketing campaigns they are like knowing everything inside out. in reality, they still use stock thin, rubber-coated, pad-printed abs caps, which can only survive a short period of use. come on, we all know that thin double-shot abs or pbt caps are not that costly to make (with that kind of price premium, they should have included better printing technologies for their caps a long time ago)

about romer-g switches, it's a shame. all they need to do is to design the stems to be compatible with cherry mx caps. i believe the current design is about enhancing led effects, but that alone will not impress anyone. personally i find led boring and turn it off all the times.

i see.. thanks for the clear explanation....

+1

you're very welcome.

tbh, kailh switch sockets that offer switch hot-swapping are probably the most practical innovation in mkb history. it's good that they are available at affordable boards.

feelislove, feelislife!

Hi guys any comments on Ducky keyboards? Looking to buy one with the MX cherry blue switches.

Keyboard is ok, but no more distributor in Malaysia making the keyboard need to ship from Singapore.
Not recommended if you want to claim warranty for keyboards.

Cool thanks. I already bought the keyboard
Overall quite satisfied with it. Blue switches really good to piss off my gf

Yo, is there any recommended keycaps for Ducky Zero (DK2108)? I have been using it for nearly 4 years and the keycaps became quite shiny to the point it feels oily under constant use

Preferably budget ones since it's just an entry level keyboard plus I'm not planning to bust out for stuffs like GMK keycaps, just need usability only.

Thanks!

we have the same board ! hoyeahhh.

i have a ducky sideprinted. yea, its sideprinted, toobad.
im letting go for cheap.
its black, and its sideprinted. at least its ducky brand.

I do have a set of thick (1.3mm) Dye-sub PBT keycaps (however, they aren't "shine-thru" if you have a backlit keyboard) on sale here if you're interested: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/159039388312777

Am asking for RM125, but if you do meet me in Puchong, I might be able to offer a slightly better pricing.

This post has been edited by GRexer: Jan 21 2019, 11:21 PM


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