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chrisoys
post Jan 9 2008, 10:14 AM

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If you still can't teach your pup stop bitting. Join for the fun.

What I usually do. I will play with the pup let the pup bite my finger. Tired the pup out. I actually enjoy playing with the pup bitting my finger. The pup will keep on chasing your hand. LOL rclxms.gif

This bitting thing only happen when your pup is still young. Once they grow older the bitting will be getting lesser.

No worry. Bitting is normal. Enjoy your pup naughty behaviour while you still can, pup grow up very fast.
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post Jan 9 2008, 01:25 PM

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Dudes & Dudettes,

My Silky is coming soon. Need some guidance here. What are the things should I get for now? I have around RM300 budget at the moment, enough ah? unsure.gif I'm keeping some for his deworms & jabs in future. ;S

- Cage
- Pup food (old & new)
- Nylon bone
- Plates (I already have a few)
- Shampoo
- Comb
- Nail cutter
- Ear cleaner
- Eye cleaner
- Soft toys
- A soft bed/home <--- I saw this at a pet shop in Pyramid, selling at RM90+.

What else ah? Did I left out any important stuff? sweat.gif

I think me left out a few, it's in my PC, not at home now. I'm planning to get the few important things first.

- Can I bring a pup for a walk when he's only 2 months old? unsure.gif

- Is it good enough to give them chew mint to get rid of the mouth odour? Is it healthy?

I think I have problems bathing a pup, cleaning his ear & eye and cutting his nails, any tips for me? sweat.gif



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post Jan 9 2008, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Jan 9 2008, 01:25 PM)
Dudes & Dudettes,

My Silky is coming soon. Need some guidance here. What are the things should I get for now? I have around RM300 budget at the moment, enough ah?  unsure.gif  I'm keeping some for his deworms & jabs in future. ;S

- Cage
- Pup food (old & new)
- Nylon bone
- Plates (I already have a few)
- Shampoo
- Comb
- Nail cutter
- Ear cleaner
- Eye cleaner
- Soft toys
- A soft bed/home <--- I saw this at a pet shop in Pyramid, selling at RM90+.

What else ah? Did I left out any important stuff?  sweat.gif

I think me left out a few, it's in my PC, not at home now. I'm planning to get the few important things first.

- Can I bring a pup for a walk when he's only 2 months old?  unsure.gif

- Is it good enough to give them chew mint to get rid of the mouth odour? Is it healthy?

I think I have problems bathing a pup, cleaning his ear & eye and cutting his nails, any tips for me?  sweat.gif
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hi Zeist,

i have a package to tag along with the puppy, if you want the package, do let me know.

Regarding the bathing, nail cutting and ears cleaning, i can teach you this when you come to my home.

It is advisable to bring the pup out for walks only after all the 3 vaccinations are done.
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post Jan 9 2008, 03:43 PM

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post Jan 9 2008, 08:58 PM

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Here is the list I recommend you should get & do.

- Leash
- Pup food (old & new)
- Air-tight container (to keep puppy food)
- Plates (I already have a few)
- Shampoo
- Conditioner
- Comb
- Pin Brush
- Sccisor
- Nail cutter
- Ear cleaner
- Eye cleaner
- Cotton Bud
- A soft bed/home <--- I saw this at a pet shop in Pyramid, selling at RM90+
- Orgaderm Spray (keep one just in case your pup develop skin problem or injure himself)
- Deworm tablet (1 tablet cost about RM5-RM6) Dontal Plus - 1 tablet equal to 10KG body weight
- Heartworm Tablet (1 box cost about RM65- RM70) Heartgard Plus - 1 box can last you half year for 1 dog.
- Vaccination go for 7in1 cost you about RM40-RM50. You need to go for atleast another 2 vaccination cause I believe the breeder already gave the pup 1st vaccination. After the 3rd vaccination you only bring back to vet annually for annual vaccination cost you about the same RM40-RM50.

- Avoid feeding your pup treats & home cooked food. Once in a blue moon is OK.

- Once the puppy get all the vaccination please bring the puppy out more often to socialise more with strangers & dogs.

- Never too pamper you puppy. You will regret once your pup grow up. Remember this is the right time to housetrain your pup. Never cage your pup train the pup to be free running around your house, that why house train your pup is very important at this stage.

Thats it. Good luck.
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post Jan 9 2008, 09:44 PM

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remember only to use snacks or treats when you are training the puppy. training the pup is a must like what chris just said, you'll regret next time if you dont train the puppy.

its always good to cook for the puppy, a better way to ensure that your pup gets most/all the nutrition needed. [dog-friendly recipes only, there are lots of things that dogs cant eat - grapes, fruit seeds, chocolate..]

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post Jan 9 2008, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 8 2008, 10:41 PM)
I have merged the threads..... Conangirl, please do not open new threads. There is a puppy training guide here, search for it.

Anyway, puppies are babies. When you bring a baby home, do you think the baby would understand how to pee and poo in the toilet bowl? Do you think a baby would know how to stop crying when you say the word NO?

A puppy is the same. You must remember, it is like a baby, with no knowledge. It doesn't understand our words as we do not speak dog, nor does a dog speak human but they learn through experience, knowledge and the tone of our voice.

NewbieBetta gave you good basic advice already. That is the basics. If you still have problems, then get hold of a puppy training book. So many of these books are available at bookshops, be it new or secondhand.

Most of us here took weeks to months and years to train our dogs. We did not train them in just a few hours for them to magically understand everything. Some puppies are natural learners, they pick things fast but some are stubborn and slow, so you must be patient and consistent. Never blow your temper, never hit or scold, only scold or punish immediately after a wrong doing......

You got lots to learn, not just the puppy. You still have not even shown to your pup that you are the pack leader, so you don't get it's respect yet.
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It's okey nod.gif you merged the threads. Easier for me to check and follow up too...Actually it's my friend recommend me to open a new thread here. Sorry for the inconvenience cause.. notworthy.gif

I knew what you're trying to say, maybe I never raised a puppy that young before, previously all my dogs i raised them in their 6 to 8 months of age onwards. So they feel more easy with ppl around.

Thanks for your advice. Anyway, today she learn a lesson. She try to bite my friend's adult shih tzu, (always do this whenever got chance)the shih tzu can't stand it anymore and bark at her (never bark and angry with her no matter what she does, VERY TAME doggy).She's so scared. Now she not dare chase and bite the shih-tzu.

QUOTE(chrisoys @ Jan 9 2008, 10:14 AM)
If you still can't teach your pup stop bitting. Join for the fun.

What I usually do. I will play with the pup let the pup bite my finger. Tired the pup out. I actually enjoy playing with the pup bitting my finger. The pup will keep on chasing your hand. LOL rclxms.gif

This bitting thing only happen when your pup is still young. Once they grow older the bitting will be getting lesser.

No worry. Bitting is normal. Enjoy your pup naughty behaviour while you still can, pup grow up very fast.
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Hahaha...you got really playful dog, i hope to enjoy the bites too, but she bites until bleed la. She don't want to let go although we pull her (not dare to pull too hard, afraid of hurting her). rclxub.gif


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post Jan 11 2008, 01:45 AM

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post Jan 11 2008, 11:35 AM

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oh no, got 4 little rascals................cute
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post Jan 12 2008, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(junnie87 @ Jan 11 2008, 01:45 AM)
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Are you a breeder? You breed so many dog breeds for sales?
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post Jan 12 2008, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(chrisoys @ Jan 12 2008, 08:45 PM)
Are you a breeder? You breed so many dog breeds for sales?
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not a breeder, only agent. those silky pups are my bf's
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post Jan 13 2008, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(junnie87 @ Jan 12 2008, 10:50 PM)
not a breeder, only agent. those silky pups are my bf's
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Improve the breed quality not quantity. Your bf's Female Silky is not suitable for breeding.
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post Jan 13 2008, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(chrisoys @ Jan 13 2008, 07:09 PM)
Improve the breed quality not quantity. Your bf's Female Silky is not suitable for breeding.
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noted. thanks for the advice.
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post Jan 14 2008, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(chrisoys @ Jan 13 2008, 07:09 PM)
Improve the breed quality not quantity. Your bf's Female Silky is not suitable for breeding.
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Just wondering, what means by quality?? keeping a whole lot of silkies to experiment which to pick up for breeding?, only champ fur kids can be breed? using human shampoo? or by feeding eukanoba?

The beauty of ur fur kids falls on the eyes of the beholder but on the eyes of others. There are alot of nicer fur kids who doenst join the ring but doesnt means that their fur kids are not preety. Even not nice dogs are dogs too, they have feelings and no one can judge.

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post Jan 14 2008, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(alvin86 @ Jan 14 2008, 09:58 AM)
Just wondering, what means by quality?? keeping a whole lot of silkies to experiment which to pick up for breeding?, only champ fur kids can be breed? using human shampoo? or by feeding eukanoba?

The beauty of ur fur kids falls on the eyes of the beholder but on the eyes of others. There are alot of nicer fur kids who doenst join the ring but doesnt means that their fur kids are not preety. Even not nice dogs are dogs too, they have feelings and no one can judge.
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Did I say champ furkid, human shampoo & eukanuba is quality breeding? Did I?

All furkids are beautiful including mongrels. All I want to say here is breeding is to improve not increase the quantity.

Please see below pic of the female silky I am referring. Silky Terrier standard coat color should be blue and tan. The blue may be silver blue, pigeon blue or slate blue, the tan deep and rich. The blue extends from the base of the skull to the tip of the tail, down the forelegs to the elbows, and half way down the outside of the thighs. On the tail the blue should be very dark. Tan appears on muzzle and cheeks, around the base of the ears, on the legs and feet and around the vent. The topknot should be silver or fawn which is lighter than the tan points.

Did the below female Silky meet the above requirement? If not why still use it as breeding machine? Best is the spayed it.


http://s.lowyat.net/uploads//post-82070-1198349906_thumb.jpg

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post Jan 14 2008, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(chrisoys @ Jan 14 2008, 10:17 AM)
Did I say champ furkid, human shampoo & eukanuba is quality breeding? Did I?

All furkids are beautiful including mongrels. All I want to say here is breeding is to improve not increase the quantity.

Please see below pic of the female silky I am referring. Silky Terrier standard coat color should be blue and tan. The blue may be silver blue, pigeon blue or slate blue, the tan deep and rich. The blue extends from the base of the skull to the tip of the tail, down the forelegs to the elbows, and half way down the outside of the thighs. On the tail the blue should be very dark. Tan appears on muzzle and cheeks, around the base of the ears, on the legs and feet and around the vent. The topknot should be silver or fawn which is lighter than the tan points.

Did the below female Silky meet the above requirement?

http://s.lowyat.net/uploads//post-82070-1198349906_thumb.jpg

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Just a question...if this female silky coat color quality is not so good, get her mate with a good quality male dog, would it improve the offspring coat color?

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Jan 15 2008, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Jan 14 2008, 10:33 AM)
Just a question...if this female silky coat color quality is not so good, get her mate with a good quality male dog, would it improve the offspring coat color?
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Silky Terrier with a whole body brown color is totally out of the written standard. Why you still want to breed if you know your female Silky have a serius fault. Is best study & understand your Silky bloodline before going into breeding. Study as far as you can about your Silky brother & sister, parent, grandparent & etcs.

A poor quality female mate with good quality male hoping the puppies will come out like the father. You are just trying your luck. Chances are the puppies will follow the mother.


Added on January 14, 2008, 12:24 pm
QUOTE(alvin86 @ Jan 14 2008, 09:58 AM)
The beauty of ur fur kids falls on the eyes of the beholder but on the eyes of others. There are alot of nicer fur kids who doenst join the ring but doesnt means that their fur kids are not preety. Even not nice dogs are dogs too, they have feelings and no one can judge.
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The motto of the responsible breeder of purebred dogs is "Breed to Improve."

Every dog is the best dog in the world to its owner. Responsible breeders, however, know to avoid "kennel blindness" -- in other words, they take a step back and honestly evaluate the good and bad points of their dogs before making the decision to breed. The goal of breeding, after all, is to produce a better dog and a quality pet.

One of the best ways to get an objective opinion of your dog is to test it against others. Consider attending a dog show to determine how your dog measures up against the best specimens of its breed.

To be an effective breeder, you should have a basic understanding of the science of genetics. Everything about your prospective puppies' health, soundness, looks, and temperament will be determined by the genes passed on by their parents, and by their parents before them. Therefore, the selection of a mating pair should not be made solely on the basis of the dog's or b****'s looks (or temperament or soundness, etc.), but should be based on an understanding of how the animal's genes contributed to its looks and of how those genes are passed on and expressed. That is why it is essential to study the pedigrees of your mating pair. The more knowledge you have as you make your selection, the more likely you are to produce a litter with the qualities you desire.


Source: AKC

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QUOTE(chrisoys @ Jan 14 2008, 10:44 AM)
Silky Terrier with a whole body brown color is totally out of the written standard. Why you still want to breed if you know your female Silky have a serius fault. Is best study & understand your Silky bloodline before going into breeding. Study as far as you can about your Silky brother & sister, parent, grandparent & etcs.

A poor quality female mate with good quality male hoping the puppies will come out like the father. You are just trying your luck. Chances are the puppies will follow the mother.
I have seen one Silky Terrier whole body silky greyish colour, is that also out of standard and have serious fault too?
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QUOTE(junnie87 @ Jan 9 2008, 02:49 PM)
hi Zeist,

i have a package to tag along with the puppy, if you want the package, do let me know.

Regarding the bathing, nail cutting and ears cleaning, i can teach you this when you come to my home.

It is advisable to bring the pup out for walks only after all the 3 vaccinations are done.
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Some idiot deleted my post I replied few days back. I'll discuss the package with you ok, when we meet up. biggrin.gif

Thanks. smile.gif


Added on January 14, 2008, 2:40 pm
QUOTE(chrisoys @ Jan 9 2008, 08:58 PM)
Here is the list I recommend you should get & do.

- Leash
- Pup food (old & new)
- Air-tight container (to keep puppy food)
- Plates (I already have a few)
- Shampoo
- Conditioner
- Comb
- Pin Brush
- Sccisor
- Nail cutter
- Ear cleaner
- Eye cleaner
- Cotton Bud
- A soft bed/home <--- I saw this at a pet shop in Pyramid, selling at RM90+
- Orgaderm Spray (keep one just in case your pup develop skin problem or injure himself)
- Deworm tablet (1 tablet cost about RM5-RM6) Dontal Plus - 1 tablet equal to 10KG body weight
- Heartworm Tablet (1 box cost about RM65- RM70) Heartgard Plus - 1 box can last you half year for 1 dog.
- Vaccination go for 7in1 cost you about RM40-RM50. You need to go for atleast another 2 vaccination cause I believe the breeder already gave the pup 1st vaccination. After the 3rd vaccination you only bring back to vet annually for annual vaccination cost you about the same RM40-RM50.[/B]

- Avoid feeding your pup treats & home cooked food. Once in a blue moon is OK.

- Once the puppy get all the vaccination please bring the puppy out more often to socialise more with strangers & dogs.

- Never too pamper you puppy. You will regret once your pup grow up. Remember this is the right time to housetrain your pup. Never cage your pup train the pup to be free running around your house, that why house train your pup is very important at this stage.

Thats it. Good luck.
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Thanks dude, already added them into my list. Do you know the rough figure to get all the stuff above? ;S

I have a few questions...

- Leash is something like dog chain ah? I always get confused with this sial. blush.gif

- For deworm & heartworm tablet, how often should I give the pup? And how do I feed it? unsure.gif

Dude, can I have a look at your silkies sleeping area? brows.gif


Added on January 14, 2008, 2:42 pm
QUOTE(junnie87 @ Jan 11 2008, 01:45 AM)
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Cute sial, definitely. hands.gif


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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Jan 14 2008, 01:31 PM)
I have seen one Silky Terrier whole body silky greyish colour, is that also  out of standard and have serious fault too?
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No Tan Color at all? Then the answer is YES.


Added on January 14, 2008, 8:20 pm
QUOTE(zeist @ Jan 14 2008, 02:30 PM)
Thanks dude, already added them into my list. Do you know the rough figure to get all the stuff above? ;S

I have a few questions...

- Leash is something like dog chain ah? I always get confused with this sial.  blush.gif

- For deworm & heartworm tablet, how often should I give the pup? And how do I feed it?  unsure.gif

Dude, can I have a look at your silkies sleeping area?  brows.gif


Leash is dog chain. It come in many meterial. Don't buy metal chain to your dog cause metal chain will break your Silky hair around the neck area worse it will hurt & injured your dog neck.

I guess your pup now is somewhere around 8 weeks old. Deworm your pup at 8weeks, 12weeks, 16weeks then every 3 months. For heartworm prevention you can start giving when your pup reach 5months old (no need do bloodtest).

LOL cool2.gif If I show you my dogs sleeping area that will be my bedroom sweat.gif

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