interesting to say for m110 there's only 6 persons taking grad. the least i have seen from all the other batches. and my batch so far has recorded the least number of pms stream students as compared to the senior batches that i have seen. most of my batchmates actually switched back to local. making m110 to have a big batch of seremban students, around 95+/- and pms undergrad just around 85+ just fyi heh

By choice, or inability to meet PMS criteria?

I also heard about this thing. Why ah?

I think it's a coincidence that many who opted for Pms upon entry have personal issues and thus switch to local. Few from local appealed and got Leicester one got Leeds and few got keele. From what I can see my batch is quite weak. People who usually get average B and above got their top choices but still there's some issue among some. Apparently there are few of them who failed twice their EOS got their first choice and got top unis. Wouldn't be nice to list out the unis cos it would be easy to name the people out.

like i said, most of imu-pms students will not get direct entry into the unis they are matched to.......

and the matching process is very opaque....

and 'top' unis like edinburgh will also have to take some weaker students....they are not allowed to only select the best....

Why Edinburgh need to accept such terms when they only take in 5% of the direct foreign applicants each year. Contractual agreement?

i have explained this before....

based on the pattern of matching, it appears that pms have to take a spectrum of students within their allocation...this is to balance out the students, to avoid a situation where the popular uni chooses all the good students and the weak ones get dumped in unpopular ones....

eg, if edinburgh takes 4 students from a batch, they cannot choose all from the top, but maybe have to choose 2 from the top half, and 2 from the bottom half...

that is why strange situations exist commonly where better students' top choice is not matched, but weaker students got matched instead..

Are the respective PMS bound by contract to have this partnership in place for a certain number of years?

Does the weaker students want to be matched to Edinburgh? I would not want that path given that in Imu already struggling n would prefer a less competitive environment. Unless the better students and the presumed weaker ones are not that far off. I am assuming a weaker student in Unimas n we matched him to UM. He would have nightmares.

note that, despite differences in presumed prestige of some uk med schools, there is actually little difference in the 'difficulty' of the respective universities....

therefore it is a mistake to think edinburgh would be tougher than liverpool or leeds or hull-york, for eg.....

the hallmark of developed countries' education is they tend to be pretty consistent in quality.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: May 14 2012, 10:45 PM

I appreciate your replies and hope that potential students take note to ensure a better success rate. From what I gather, for every applicant, at least 2 or 3 choices are similar to that of the next applicant. This could also be due to the fact that unis conducting interviews in Malaysia are limited and very few wanted to attend an interview in uk.

Among the unis that interview in this region, those that do not interview in Malaysia will interview in Singapore. Leeds do not interview intl applicants. When there's 4 choices to include in UCAS application, the likelihood of similar unis being applied to is pretty high.

Will students be able to do their housemanship in uk through the PMS route?

Yes, via the NHS Foundation Programme.

Some do interviews here and in sg. I think Manchester and Glasgow do that. Edinburgh also no interview; ps and voluntary health service rank highly.

i thought you are already in imu-pms?.....shouldn't you be well aware about all these things?....

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Added on May 15, 2012, 12:58 pmi was referring to the actual course itself......

there is a significant difference however, in getting into med school....some unis are more selective, and thus more difficult to get in.....eg would be oxbridge, ucl, imperial.....

also, since different unis emphasise on different aspects of the selection process, it is common for one to get rejected from one, and offered from another, and the reverse for another student....therefore, it does help to know what each uni emphasise on, and apply to those which matches one's strong points.....

nevertheless, common across all med schools in uk, successful candidates will be having straight a's, good scores in ukcak/bmat, and good track record of health related volunteer work.....

however, do note that many unis have an affirmative action programme, where specified disadvantaged students may be admitted with lower results.....this is of course limited to home students only....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 3 2012, 06:25 PM

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i think the quality is consistent. but the examination system is definitely harder in some unis than others. Leicester endures the horrible big exam in their first 4 months in the UK, failing which they are knocked back another semester.

Edinburgh has exams every so often etc

and I think with regards to you post about mixed variety. It is true to some point, but generally, big unis will always get the better students.

M110 is the first of its kind with more Seremban than PMS. Well, guess retaining the students at Seremban=more money for IMU.

i think the reversal of ratio is more due to contracting pms places....there used to be 150 places, now it appears there are less than 100.....

popular unis will get the best students, but will also need to take some of the lower ranked students as well....unpopular ones will never have top students ranking them high, hence will not get top students....

no matter what barriers the unis put in your way, the eventual number/percentage of failures are remarkably consistent across all the med schools....so as long as one keeps up with work, and stay off the bottom 10%, one should be fine....

how long did it take you guys to prepare for the IELTS?