just a tip, if you want to work in Singapore, but you are a local graduate of IMU, ie: you have an IMU MBBS degree, the requirements for registration in Singapore is an MRCP. Its a postgraduate qualification most doctors try to attain after some years of working.

I think you do your specialization WHILE working in a hospital ( preferably a teaching hospital), and not in a university. So your basic mbbs degree will need to be recognised by the foreign country's medical board first before anything else. Correct me if I understood wrongly.

you don't do 'specialisation' (postgraduate training) in a university in most english speaking countries....'not recognised' means by the respective medical councils lah....duh....

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Added on February 6, 2012, 9:48 amthat is true of any non-recognised basic qualification.....not just imu mbbs..........a recognised post graduate qualification allows one conditional registration by smc......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 6 2012, 09:48 AM

General misconception by medical students and their parents nowadays of being able to work or go for specialization overseas with any medical degree... But hell yeah, you're right.

But one thing to add is that if your basic degree is not recognized, you can always make it right by going for PLAB in UK or AMC exam in Aussie to get yourself registered but this will take don't know how many years to complete. Even though any who have passed will get the chance to be registered, they will still be in the bottom on the selection list to go into their postgraduate programs as they have to be in favour to their own UK or Aussie graduates.

Besides, if you're a non-PR of Australia, your chances of getting into their postgraduate training program is near 0.

do all these apply to dentistry too?

literally, sorry, yes.

so what is my route if i do a PDS(local degree) in imu and i want to end up in Australia as a specialist or just a normal dentist?

If local, it would be IMU BDS (local) as PDS = partner dental school, ie overseas.

you didn't do your research BEFORE embarking on the course?.....

if you graduate with BDS(IMU), you'll have to work for the government for a few years to gain experience in order to allow you to sit for certain dental council's examination (just like Australian Dental Council(ADC) exam, they need you to have don't know how many hours of experience before allowing you to apply for their exam while UK GDC has its own type of exam too).

Ahem, in a nutshell, you'll spend a few years as a NORMAL dentist until the day you pass those exams--->become PR--->wait for your chance to be called in for postgraduate training.

i think people should realistically accept that if they embark on a local msian degree programme, they are going to be staying on and working in msia for good.....believe me, after a few years working, getting married, the first kid arrives.....you will not have any more thoughts about sitting for exams and starting at the bottom of the ladder in another country again.....

if there is any thought of venturing out of msia to work, then get a degree with wider recognition from the word go.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 6 2012, 02:33 PM

but how come i see universities like HKU and certain universities in australia offering specialist courses like orthodontology? most requirements are only a BDS degree and at least 2 years of working experience(housemanship, no?)



erm this isn't a major concern for me..more like just curiosity. Besides, I don't really have much of a choice since i like this course and my finances don't allow me to do the degree in OZ/UK.

these courses usually will NOT confer you recognition by mdc as a specialist.....

many examples exists in medicine as well....eg, getting a diploma of dermatology from some where will NOT allow you to be registered with the nsr....

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Added on February 6, 2012, 4:12 pmi will be blunt here...for the majority of students enrolled in ipts medical and dental programmes (and this includes imu-pms and monash sunway), even if they have money, they will NOT be able to qualify directly into oz/uk medical or dental schools.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 6 2012, 05:58 PM

With oz getting so competitive, direct entry chances will be greatly reduced. For those hoping for uk, unis outside the Russell group may offer better chances, I hope. IMU pms still offer a lot more choices for overseas n the only one available locally.

Are the N&D accredited by MQA ?
How many students are there in N&D program (capacity) ?


thx

My relative's AS results are 3 A's (Maths/physics/Bio) and B in Chemistry. Now working hard to get A for Chemistry in coming May 2012 A2 exam. If finance and A level results permits, the relative intends to apply UCAS for September 2013 UK Medicine intakes.

I would like seek all and sundry's advice and opinions on the following:

1) While awaiting applicaton results for direct entry in September 2013, in the meanwhile the relative plans to apply and do IMU pms if possible.

2)In case the relative can proceed to UK medicine in September 2013 intake...... are there any UK universities that may consider 'credit transfers' for the two IMU semester studies..... Or none of UK varsities have 'credit transfer things' for medicine course ??

What are the scenarios ? Appreciate your guidance.....

This post has been edited by zeng: Feb 8 2012, 11:10 AM

why did not apply for Sept 2012? Doubtful credit transfer available.

there are never any 'credit transfers' for partly done medical courses by any respectable unis.....

however, there are several full phase 1/preclinical credit transfers arrangements, imu-pms being one of them.....others include uni brunei, and a uni in egypt with manchester.....

Why ? many factors actually ..... unknown AS performance ; hesitancy whether to do medicine... ; hesitancy whether do local or overseas medicine programmes ... and the No 1 reason is whether can sustain 5 years of funding for overseas medicine.

Actually aiming for SMC recognised degrees ..... currently applying U of Hong Kong which is very very competitive....

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Added on February 8, 2012, 1:47 pmThanks for valuable input and prompt response . Too bad this 'credit transfers' pathway is off in terms of 'salvaging' one to two semesters of IMU studies.

This post has been edited by zeng: Feb 8 2012, 01:47 PM

the difference between imu-pms to uk, and direct entry, in terms of total fees, can be small or even cheaper in uk.....eg, 5 sems at imu is rm200k, or 40k pounds......whereas 1st 2 years pre-clinical in most uk med schools is less than 20k pounds a year.....