i should add that i suspect there is also a 'black list' by some pms, particularly the oz ones.....although they never say so explicitly or implicitly.....

ie, if you have ever applied directly to the pms, and rejected, you will automatically be dropped from consideration by the uni.....as that would be considered a back door entry.....something taboo in oz.....(see the uq vc fiasco).....

why did not apply for Sept 2012? Doubtful credit transfer available.

there are never any 'credit transfers' for partly done medical courses by any respectable unis.....

however, there are several full phase 1/preclinical credit transfers arrangements, imu-pms being one of them.....others include uni brunei, and a uni in egypt with manchester.....

the difference between imu-pms to uk, and direct entry, in terms of total fees, can be small or even cheaper in uk.....eg, 5 sems at imu is rm200k, or 40k pounds......whereas 1st 2 years pre-clinical in most uk med schools is less than 20k pounds a year.....

It is 27K to 35K pounds PER year in UK and IMU is charging abt RM200k for 5 semesters!

Our respective "relatives" will be the "deaths" of us! *collective groans"

Good Luck! You're basically doing what I was doing last year, just not the IMU route.

Not ALL Russell Group.

is it true that keele uni and brighton-sussex uni are not recognized by Singapore Medical Council?

No I have not heard any replies from the UK unis yet. Might have to possibly wait till Feb/March

i thought even recognised university graduates need to take conversion test in order to work in a particular country? say, two graduates  from UK and IMU, how are they different in terms of gaining accreditation and eventually being able to work in Singapore?

means there IS a qualifying exam? which applies for many other countries. otherwise how do you explain so many graduates with unrecognised qualification being able to work in places they intend to?

There is a pathway in IMU and it has allowed many to do med overseas, esp those with money.

You said they can match up with their university mates, so effectively they are there on merit. Unfortunately UK is going to change the quota for internationals.


....Would appreciate your further clarificatons on quota change for internationals .....  


I also believe that gaining direct entry into UK med can be considered as a game of chance. For Malaysians, many are equal in academic performance and PS. Whether you make it or not is at the interview and this depends on the interviewer, though he has a guideline.

When I conduct interviews, if you have a pleasant personality, you will have a more than even chance. That's life.

I'll say out that money should the least deciding factor when pursuing medicine overseas, especially in UK. The number of international applicants to places in each medical university is roughly about 20 to 1. The selection process itself is highly evaluated and the decision to select a particular individual has to be reviewed a couple of times before being made.

The typical evaluation includes personal statement, UKCAT (not all), grades and the interviews themselves. In my university, the interview has been recently changed to the newer MMI (multiple-mini interviews), which i found more suitable in deciding one's ability to do medicine. The individual himself is tested upon basic common sense, empathy, passion, arithmetics and communication skills. These are highly important in regarding to being a doctor later.

So, overall the selection is really demanding and I'm really glad to be able to get into one at all.

Just my 2 cents.

Since you have one offer, what do you think happened to the others.

I would assume that some of your answers to the questions posed were more acceptable to the successful one than the others.

Even those who made it to Oxbridge may not get offers from other universities.[

Unfortunately, it's a discrete matter but, if you must know. I can only tell you that there is a certain group of sponsored students who are only match to unis in the UK, hence, filling up the space meant for other students.

Every uni has a certain local:international students ratio. Most people just look at the limit of international students numbers for a uni, many don't realise that there is such a ratio between local and international students and as well as, between international students. This is just to satisfy the local students. Well, of course, most unis want higher international student intake, since they pay a higher amount for fees. But (as a local)would you feel happy, if >80% of your class are foreigners.

Mine was a one offer case BUT it was mostly down to my bad selection of universities, I'm afraid.

I had two interviews, with one successful and the other,  a rejection.
For one university, I wasn't able to attend the interview due to the fact that they had change their selection procedure from not interviewing to an MMI in UK itself. At the point when I was applied, the information at which I knew of did not state about the interview but it was recently implemented AFTER the UCAS closing date.

The final university rejected me the earliest, which was about early December. Furthermore, my fellow peers from the same college who applied to the same university were also rejected around the same time. I did not manage to find anyone who went to the university directly. I could only speculate that it was due to the IMU credit transfer which limited the number of places available for direct entry. (Just a guess~)

( I know I shouldn't be lamenting about it but it's not an excuse to deny that it was my incapability which denied me more than one offer. It could be due to chance though but I can only guess)

Yeah, I'm struggling to get you to see my point of view.

Effective this Sept 2014, IMU students transferring to Liverpool U will pay 3,750 pounds additional per year and next year onwards it will be raised to 10,000 pounds.

Wow, another additonal RM200K and we hope the Ringgit at least maintain its current value.

haha, spot on.

I am not picky in my choice of medical school. My only 2 criteria are accreditation and costs. Tuition fees of Med schools like UCD in Ireland can reach upwards of SGD 500k or above RM1.2mill. Scary figures.

Why do you say 'chance of getting uk is very high'? Is that based on the sheer number of UK PMS compared to Auzzie PMS? What other factors play a part in the allocation of PMS?

Yep, i understand that unis like Keele and BSMS are not recognised by the SMC according to the SMC second schedule.

How difficult is it to adapt to UK teaching styles after 2.5 years in bukit jalil?

Btw, IMU uses prosections instead of dissections?

Also, is it an urban legend or a truth that August intakes have higher cut-off ? And how much higher? Would AAB be enough?