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limeuu
post May 14 2011, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(eliselam @ May 14 2011, 11:05 PM)
I think I do not need student visa, I am just wondering why such rule applies when I will pay full fee.
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yes, you will NEED to apply for a visa to uk, if you are matched to uk.......so they WILL know......

why is it that people think that just because you pay for it, pay 'full fees' in this case, you can get anything you want?........NO you cannot buy a medical degree in these countries........you can however, in many others........

the reason for this exclusion is to PREVENT BACKDOOR entry into the profession........unlike msia, which is FULL of backdoor pathways to become a doctor, the countries with pms of imu (uk, oz, nz, canada, us) do NOT allow backdoor entry.......

citizens and pr have to apply to get into med schools in these countries, and they are VERY selective who they will admit......

the only reason these citizens and pr's will think of going to imu, is if they FAILED to get an offer in their home country.....and getting in through imu, and then partnering BACK into one of their med school will mean a student who have been REJECTED by the med schools at home getting into the same medical programme via the imu backdoor........

that is a BIG no no in these countries....hence citizens and pr's are prohibited BY THE PMS countries (NOT by imu) to partner back to their own country's own med schools.......but it is a concept completely alien to msians, as msians LOVE the easy pay fees-get in-pass-graduate-back to msia pathways in russia/indonesia/egypt etc.....

and really.....it IS a lot easier to get into imu than direct entry into med schools in uk/oz/nz/canada/us.........


Added on May 14, 2011, 11:51 pmaddendum: a simple way out of this is to notify the uk authorities you wish to relinquish your right to abode in uk........

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post May 15 2011, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 14 2011, 11:32 PM)


why is it that people think that just because you pay for it, pay 'full fees' in this case, you can get anything you want?........NO you cannot buy a medical degree in these countries........you can however, in many others........

the reason for this exclusion is to PREVENT BACKDOOR entry into the profession........unlike msia, which is FULL of backdoor pathways to become a doctor, the countries with pms of imu (uk, oz, nz, canada, us) do NOT allow backdoor entry.......

citizens and pr have to apply to get into med schools in these countries, and they are VERY selective who they will admit......

the only reason these citizens and pr's will think of going to imu, is if they FAILED to get an offer in their home country.....and getting in through imu, and then partnering BACK into one of their med school will mean a student who have been REJECTED by the med schools at home getting into the same medical programme via the imu backdoor........

that is a BIG no no in these countries....hence citizens and pr's are prohibited BY THE PMS countries (NOT by imu) to partner back to their own country's own med schools.......but it is a concept completely alien to msians, as msians LOVE the easy pay fees-get in-pass-graduate-back to msia pathways in russia/indonesia/egypt etc.....

and really.....it IS a lot easier to get into imu than direct entry into med schools in uk/oz/nz/canada/us.........


Added on May 14, 2011, 11:51 pmaddendum: a simple way out of this is to notify the uk authorities you wish to relinquish your right to abode in uk........
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I think your presumptuousness is rather unfair and uncalled for. I am merely asking for advise and not judgement without any basis of understanding of my circumstances!

I never thought of this as back door entry as I only recently changed my mind to apply for medicine. I was offered Economics in UK but I begin to dislike Economics. Last Nov and Dec, I was involved in a project that involved with mentally disabled children, that started me thinking of becoming a doctor. But I have at that time applied for another course. Now after several months, I feel that my calling is more on being a doctor than money making investment banker in London.

However, if I want to apply direct to UK, I have to take a gap year which I am not so keen of. I know my results will be more than what is required by the universities in UK in terms of grades so I am not worry about not be able to get a place in UK if I apply directly next year. My parents have both advised me that if I can't apply to IMU, then apply to UK next year directly, do not apply to Indon, Egypt , Russia etc as a doctor's job deals with life and not to be taken easily.

For your info, a PR or citizen of UK that has been away for more than 3 years, you are considered as international student and paid full fees, so whether you apply direct or through IMU, you are still international student, hence my statement of paying full fees. And I have been away for more than 10 years!
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QUOTE(eliselam @ May 15 2011, 02:14 PM)
I think your presumptuousness is rather unfair and uncalled for. I am merely asking for advise and not judgement without any basis of understanding of my circumstances!

I never thought of this as back door entry as I only recently changed my mind to apply for medicine.

It matters not what you think, the respective countries see this a back door, hence the restriction........


I know my results will be more than what is required by the universities in UK in terms of grades so I am not worry about not be able to get a place in UK if I apply directly next year.

even if you have the usual 3 a's at a-levels, there is NO guarantee of securing a place......please note you will need a personal statement, and sit for an exam first (ukcat or bmat).......then be short listed for interview.......so you will do well to be circumspect about your chances......

For your info, a PR or citizen of UK that has been away for more than 3 years, you are considered as international student and paid full fees, so whether you apply direct or through IMU, you are still international student, hence my statement of paying full fees.  And I have been away for more than 10 years!

paying fees is NOT the issue here.....the rule is to prevent citizens and pr's (full fees or subsidised) from entering the programme through a back door like imu (there are others, eg, egypt with manchester, taylors with st georges).........

like i said before, this issue can be easily settled, by just contacting the british hc and tell them you want to relinquish your right to abode in the uk........since you have been away so long, this should be no problem, no?..........
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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 15 2011, 03:12 PM)

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My parents think I should not give up my PR as they want me to get my degree and training in UK.

I understand that applying directly to UK is not easy as I have done that with the Economics course which require A*AA. I think to apply to UK universities directly such as the partner universities (except for Edinburgh) as in the IMU is tough but not as difficult as some of the top universities . I am hoping to get at least A*A*AA for my A level which is starting tomorrow for me.

The alternative is to go to Aust or NZ which is very expensive.

Back to my Chem revision now!
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QUOTE(eliselam @ May 15 2011, 09:40 PM)
My parents think I should not give up my PR as they want me to get my degree and training in UK.

I understand that applying directly to UK is not easy as I have done that with the Economics course which require A*AA. I think to apply to UK universities directly such as the partner universities (except for Edinburgh) as in the IMU is tough but not as difficult as some of the top universities . I am hoping to get at least A*A*AA for my A level which is starting tomorrow for me.

if you have not started applications by now, you are too late for 2011, and also too late for 2012, as you have not even done ukcat/bmat.........

thousands of students will have aaa, aa*a* etc.........selection is thus based not so much on the a-levels results, but the ukcat/bmat results, and the interview........in fact, places like oxbridge DON'T even want to look at your a-level results.....they assume everybody who apply will have a's and a*'s..........

The alternative is to go to Aust or NZ which is very  expensive.

even if you have the money, it will NOT buy you a place.....

it is actually MORE difficult to get into oz med schools, due to limited places (half of med schools are graduate entry)......and you a also need to do special exams (isat/pqa/umat)........

and you don't really want to try nz.......everybody (eg 1200 students in auckland) goes into year 1 called medical sciences.....and 250 gets into 2nd year med school.......the rest goes on to other health sciences like pharmacy, physiotherapy etc, or other courses..........

i hope you now realise getting into med schools in these countries is NOT the msian sup sup sui way of paying money and off you go....... smile.gif


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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 15 2011, 09:58 PM)

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I know is too late for 2011 but not late for 2012. My parents think I make my life complicated by wanting to switch to medicine. And now I have my A2 exams for the next one month!!!
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if you start the process immediately after the a2, you should meet the deadlines for 2012 uk........

if you want to try oz for 2012, you need to start NOW......with the isat test, and applications.....some close end may........

the other thing is if you have the requisite a-levels subjects........
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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 15 2011, 10:36 PM)
if you start the process immediately after the a2, you should meet the deadlines for 2012 uk........

if you want to try oz for 2012, you need to start NOW......with the isat test, and applications.....some close end may........

the other thing is if you have the requisite a-levels subjects........
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I don't think I will apply to Oz, too exp for my parents!

I am doing Bio, Chem and Econ, I have obtained A* for Maths, I think my A level subjects are okay for medicine.
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QUOTE(eliselam @ May 15 2011, 10:48 PM)
I don't think I will apply to Oz, too exp for my parents!

I am doing Bio, Chem and Econ, I have obtained A* for Maths, I think my A level subjects are okay for medicine.
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only 3 principles are required, and chemistry is usually a requisite, and biology and maths are the usual other 2 subjects people present.........you are doing edexel maths......sounds like ktj....... biggrin.gif
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does anyone know what was the cut off point in feb2011 intake??
does feb intake has a comparatively lower cut off point??

is 90.5 AUS TER too low for IMU med these days??......
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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 15 2011, 11:33 PM)
........you are doing edexel maths......sounds like ktj....... biggrin.gif
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Are we HoratioCaine now from CSI Miami?? Heheee! biggrin.gif Not edexel but CIE!
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QUOTE(eliselam @ May 16 2011, 09:17 PM)
Are we HoratioCaine now from CSI Miami?? Heheee! biggrin.gif  Not edexel but CIE!
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only edexel modular system can you lock in a grade before your final exams.....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 16 2011, 10:06 PM)
only edexel modular system can you lock in a grade before your final exams.....
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Did my Maths one year earlier, supposed to take further maths but decided to drop it .
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If im taking EALD in ausmat now do i still have to take ielts or muet?
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QUOTE(yktse @ May 16 2011, 02:19 PM)
heyhey

does anyone know what was the cut off point in feb2011 intake??
does feb intake has a comparatively lower cut off point??

is 90.5 AUS TER too low for IMU med these days??......
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The best may be to ask admission but I think a score above 90 AUS TER is well sufficient. I've heard a few years back then the cut off for the February Intake is lower, but given the competition for medical schools, the difference is minute. If wanting to get in, may need to try every intake every year. More and more people wanted to study medicine for some reasons blush.gif
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QUOTE(helpme93 @ May 16 2011, 11:23 PM)
If im taking EALD in ausmat now do i still have to take ielts or muet?
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If you're applying for Monash, they still want IELTS even though you scored well in their own MUFY English. What more EALD wink.gif
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QUOTE(helpme93 @ May 16 2011, 11:23 PM)
If im taking EALD in ausmat now do i still have to take ielts or muet?
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yes IMU requires students to take them no matter what if you want to get in med. The government requires their student to take MUET or something.

QUOTE(Syd G @ May 17 2011, 08:26 AM)
If you're applying for Monash, they still want IELTS even though you scored well in their own MUFY English. What more EALD wink.gif
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really? My friends who did ESL in SAM didn't need IELTS to get into Monash.
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QUOTE(Angela Lee @ May 17 2011, 02:39 AM)
The best may be to ask admission but I think a score above 90 AUS TER is well sufficient.
it is not, for imu now.......cut offs are about 94-95......

ironically, it is easier to get in with a levels.....just abb.....which is about the equivalent of about high 80's.......


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QUOTE(helpme93 @ May 16 2011, 11:23 PM)
If im taking EALD in ausmat now do i still have to take ielts or muet?
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ielts is compulsory for imu.......

if you are in the pms streams, when you match over, most of the partner unis will want your ielts anyway.....they will accept 'expired' ielts (ie longer than 2 years old) if you had a very high band like 8.5 or 9.0..........otherwise you may need to sit a second round......and i think going forward, in the new british student visa rules, you will also need ielts for the visa application.....

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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 17 2011, 07:59 AM)
it is not, for imu now.......cut offs are about 94-95......

ironically, it is easier to get in with a levels.....just abb.....which is about the equivalent of about high 80's.......


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ielts is compulsory for imu.......

if you are in the pms streams, when you match over, most of the partner unis will want your ielts anyway.....they will accept 'expired' ielts (ie longer than 2 years old) if you had a very high band like 8.5 or 9.0..........otherwise you may need to sit a second round......and i think going forward, in the new british student visa rules, you will also need ielts for the visa application.....
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These days entry requirements to medicine are increasing - 90s were fine back then but probably not today.

What about people who have completed a tertiary (e.g., bachelor) degree in an English University (e.g., Bachelor of Engineering at Sydney University), do they still need to do an IELTS test for entry into IMU Medicine/Dentistry? Would it still be necessary?
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QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ May 17 2011, 08:41 AM)
yes IMU requires students to take them no matter what if you want to get in med. The government requires their student to take MUET or something.
really? My friends who did ESL in SAM didn't need IELTS to get into Monash.
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2012 intake onwards smile.gif

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