there is quite many reason for many of us to support a football team...considering that if you live or born in manchester that might be a good reason why u support united or city..i actually cant remember why i support manchester united but have been supporting since i was standard 4 when ince, kanchelskies, bruce and so on still playing...and im also a reg giants(have been living here since i was a kid but now fed up with malaysian footbal) and a malaysian football team fan(ok la..they sucks but im still malaysian)..still quite pissed off if someone from malaysia sokong other country..go live at another country

so what is your reason?

This post has been edited by damnself: May 4 2007, 06:38 PM

i started supporting man utd because my sister was supporting them in 199x (forgot which year, the year they lost the fa cup to everton)

I simply support the team, and never regret it hehe

But seriously, i think we shouldn't support foreign teams, like the hitz fm commercial said. Start supporting your local football team !!!

Selangor forever !!!

hmm...how to start?
maybe i influence by friend, they say how great and fantastic football they played

me? go watched d WC...then like d player....found out which team he is...n support all d way!

for me i support ManUTd coz they are the first team i ever watched played

i supprt Arsenal because i dont like others who always wins the league.. u know.. at my time.. Man U always win it and a lot of people support Man U.. so.. i decided to be different.. uhhuhu..walla.. till now.. still a gooner... uhehue..

MU coz of the way they play...

Tony Adams was damn leng leui
I love to watch how Arsenal play. Before that during the Ian Rush era I was into liverpool

haah...lfc the team overall...haha

Do I need a reason to fall in love?

same like me
but international football la
first is local, selangor

the first time i heard manchester united i already fell in love with em

because my blood is red?

Man Utd coz of Cantona but just admire him only. getting serious after they won treble. well, u can call me a glory hunter.

Err... I don't support any but enjoy good football game. I don't really care if any particular team win or lose as long as the game is entertaining. Usually I will watch the game if interesting player(s) involved cause most of the time they are the one who make the game enjoyable. Fluent attacking football is the best to watch.

Heh, just remembered something, if there is any team I do support it would be my ex-school team of U15 last time while schooling there.

This post has been edited by redart: May 4 2007, 09:05 PM

I support Man Utd because they win everything....

Been supporting Liverpool since young probably because of the influence from my old man

YNWA~

support man united because like beckham a lot

actually, I started supporting Man Utd because my cousin was supporting Man Utd.

and also, because of Beckham.
he influenced me to like football. and now, I love Man United because of the squad

Robbie GOD Fowler got me into the team, so was Macca. Despite them being an inferior team to Man Utd during that time, I am always a rebelious kind of guy, when people support Man Utd and Arsenal, I go for Liverpool. Since then, with the help of the internet, I was obsess with the reds, looking out at their history, learning their famous anthem "you'll never walk alone", watch most of their matches....etc

I started when Roy Evans was still the manager of the team. Then GH who brought us a lil bit of success but introduced boring football, now Rafa Benitez the tactical genius.

glory hunter?heh..that rings a bell actually..i think im also a glory hunterlah..but that seems normal for standard 4 kid to support a winning team that time..but i have never change a team after i fall in love with MU..even if they play in league championship i will still supporting them!

glory glory man united!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I support the game.

No particular clubs. I have Liverpool, Manchester United, Roma, Fiorentina, England etc. jerseys, bought them cause they looked nice.

However, if you were to gunpoint me and ask me to choose, I'd say Liverpool.

Fantastic history, fantastic heritage, fantastic fans, fantastic players, fantastic atmosphere and fantastic spirit. I truly respect this club.

This post has been edited by blinky: May 4 2007, 11:15 PM

Man Utd is da best!!!

I saw Zidane at the 98 World Cup. Then he got transferred to Madrid. I followed him there and then I realised Madrid is truly the greatest the club in the world.

Before i watched football, i think this is another stupid sport with 22 retards chasing for a ball until i watched arsenal playing back in 1998.

The flow and the pace of their game just amazed me.

haha..22 retards chasing ball..reminded me of the female singer bjork said that football is a sport where sperms chasing an ovum..hehe

ha...ha...ha...
because I do not want to Walk Alone .

YNWA.

Influenced by friends

Support Selangor because of Azman Adnan..
Support Man Utd because of Eric Cantona..
Two great footballer..

Few reasons for my love for Liverpool since 1980s
-during that time, Liverpool gets the most TV coverage since they were in most finals and RTM/TV3 could only afford to show very little live football on TV

-history- there was hillsborough, Heysel stadium. These things makes u more passionate to follow a club through and through

-the beautiful football Liverpool played. There are lots of criticism now about Liverpool being boring as compare to Arsenal and MU but believe it or not, during 1970s till end of 80's Liverpool were one of the most exciting team. Their passing game is very continental and there were players such as Barnes, Dalglish, Beardsley who were exciting in every way. Oh...way back then, Arsenal were a boring 0-0, 1-0, 1-1 team. I remembered being upset at Houllier's last 2 years because the football was very negative. At least Rafa tend to mix it a little bit.

Like any true love, there is the pain and joy. You really need to visit a cardilogist and make sure your heart is strong if you want to follow Liverpool.. for example..

The pain: Liverpool is the only team who lost a league title on the last day of the season. Somemore they were playing against the 2nd place team! They needed to avoid losing 2-0 to Arsenal at Anfield and guess what ? Arsenal scored a last minute goal to snatch the title from them..Where to find such drama? Because of that , we missed the chance of a double..

FA cup final vs Wimbledon. The ugliest of all underdogs vs the beauty of Liverpool..Guess what? We lost and our leading goal scorer, missed the Penalty! Another double gone...

But of course, there were sheer joy...where to find a club that goes through
A CL final like the one we had in Istanbul?
An FA cup final like last season vs West Ham? Or the late late 2 goals from Owen to snatch the FA cup from Arsenal?
Remember Olympiakos, three goals needed in one half and guess who pop out and scored with a ferocious volley? do you realise that a very important person that night was Neil Mellor, who never really made it and is already sold? Sometimes, you feel these fairy tales are written...

and check out our epic FA cup final vs Everton in the mid 1980s...

and of course, all the Epic battle against MU and Arsenal..


I've seen it all, triumph, tragedy, dominance, wilderness...man, Liverpool offer a complete package!!!!!!

This post has been edited by nando: May 5 2007, 01:08 AM

I love Arsenal because of Pires. Then their free flowing style make me love them deeper and deeper.

1. Eric Cantona. Attracted to his style when he play with Leeds. Then he moved to Man Utd. Man Utd supporter ever since.

2. Young players. When Man Utd about to dominate English Football, there were plenty of young players. @ that time there were McManaman, Kewell and Giggs. Cantona + Giggs is too much to resist.

Nowadays, I like to watch team with potential young player in it - not just Man Utd.

3. Attractive style of football

Gudjohnsen + Hasselbaink

When Roman came in, he pumped a lot of money. So, Chelsea can buy ready made world class players. And he can buy the best manager he wants too.

Steve McManaman (i luv his curly hair), Jamie Redknapp, David James, Jason McAteer, Stan Collymore and Robbie Fowler !

support a player first

1) Eric Cantona ....then looked for more news on MU, followed ever since

became die hard after:

1) WC Finals 1998
2) CL finals 1999
3) Italy losing to France 2000 XD GWAHAHAHHAA......

started by the accidentally glimpse.
viewed the TV, and watch the great Cantona in action during my primary school.
Ever since then, become a Manchester United vivid fans.
and only football style that attracts me to watch and support them, ATTACK,ATTACK,ATTACK. and Manchester United have them.

as for nation, I goes for Holland, Brazil and Italy.

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: May 5 2007, 04:06 AM

It was back in 1987/88 when I was in primary school when a friend of mine went on and on about a football team called Liverpool. Not being a football fan at the time, his words hit me like water off stone, but after months of constant mention, I just had to find out who Liverpool where. I had heard him bring up the names of Alan Hansen, Bruce Grobbelar, Ian Rush, John Barnes and Peter Beardsley but I could not put faces to their names. Back then we did not have ASTRO and RTM only aired EPL highlights that were 2 weeks old! The only live matches you could catch were cup finals like Dunhill's 'Road To Wembley' programme. Information on The Reds were also hard to come by because there was no internet at the time. I relied on football magazines like 'Shoot' and 'Match' that were selling for only RM3 at the time. Look at the prices now!

John Barnes was a mercurial winger and my favourite player at the time. If fans today think that Beckham was deadly at free-kicks, I tell ya, Barnes had a left foot that was just as deadly. To top it off, he had silky smooth skills and fantastic pace. Needless to say, I watched every game Liverpool played after that and fell in love with the noise emanating from the then, standing Kop. I feel in love with "You'll Never Walk Alone". I wasn't that Liverpool were a winning team, it was that I saw the passion in their players and the fans. I knew that if a set of fans could be so obsessed with their team, it surely must be a special team. The rest as they say is history.

Speaking of history, I began digging up any reading material I could find about the club. I read of Shankly, Paisley, Fagan. I read about The Spion Kop. I read about the bootroom. I read about everything and anything I could find on LFC. My education continues until today. This year after 19 long years, I was fortunate enough to make my pilgrimage to Anfield. I felt a sense of belonging. I felt what it was like to be part of the very special fans I had tonnes of admiration for. I was now a part of the noise I fell in love with 19 years ago.

Not long after I began my support, Kenny Dalglish announced his resignation and in came Greame Souness. It was a tough time being a Liverpool supporter at the time I tell ya. Barrel loads of Man Utd fans were sprouting from everywhere and Liverpool fans were getting stick from them all the time, as we went through a decade of mediocrity, finishing 7th at one point. As Souness tried to impose himself he rid the club of quality players like Barnes, Beardsley and Houghton. In came pedestrian players like Mark Walters, Mike Marsh, Paul Stewart and Phil Babb. Gone were the days of glory and our resolve as Liverpool fans were truly tested. To borrow a few lines from "You'll Never Walk Alone", some of us Liverpool fans had to...

Walk on through the wind,
Walk on through the rain,
Though your dreams be tossed and blown..
Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart,
And you'll never walk alone.

Low and behold, before I knew it Souness was out, and in came Evans and Houllier. Back came the glory days and there was not prouder moment for me than 2005. I had heard stories of 77,78, 81 and 84 but I had never witnessed such occasions with my own eyes. In 2005 I wept tears of joy as I knew, I was now part of Liverpool FC history. I would now have my own stories to tell my children (well I have to get married first).

I've said before that not many fans here have gone through dark days, well I went through a dark decade and my resolve was tested. Most Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea fans have not gone through hard times. These days, not a winning a trophy in 1 season is considered a tragedy! You can understand why Liverpool fans like myself always talk about how fickle and impatient fans today are. You can understand how we are skeptical of fans who claim to love their club after a mere 5 years or so of support. We are skeptical because we are not convinced that many of these fans will still be standing by their club if they were just an average side that more often than not, won nothing. I can speak for anyone else, but my resolve has been tested and I know, I will.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 5 2007, 09:43 AM

My first encounter with football was WC 94 but I wasn't a big fan then. It was only till 1998 that i started catching a few regular games here and there but i didn't support any team. At that time no team had actually caught my eye or my heart so to speak. Of course 1998 was the year Real Madrid ended their 32 year wait for a European triumph. But i didn't really pay much attention then.

It was in Euro 2000 that a certain Luis Figo bedazzled me with his dribbling and playmaking skills...he quickly became my favourite player. And after that summer he made one of the most shocking transfers in European football: joining Real Madrid from Barcelona. I didn't really understand the rivalry back then but it got me interested in the club named as the "Best of the 20th Century". I wanted to know why. From there i researched about the club's history and it got me hooked. Barca with all their Catalan pride and fancy football never cut it with me. Real Madrid was about passion first and foremost; countless stories of players like Di Stefano, Puskas, Butragueno, Juanito, and in more recent times Hierro, Raul which embodied the Real Madrid spirit of sweating tears and blood for the white shirt.

It's been 7 years now....obviously I haven't supported the club as long as some ppl like Duke Red (but I'm not as old as him; 87/88 i wasn't even in kindergarten yet! ) but I know in my heart that i will support the legendary Whites till the day I leave this world.

Does anyone smell the stench of a glory hunter here?

Without the Galactico policy the both of us would just be another two ordinary EPL fans brainwashed by the Malaysian media.

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Added on May 5, 2007, 10:43 amWANTED: Teck Peow

Shoot at sight!

This post has been edited by Soulsareworthless: May 5 2007, 10:43 AM

Not really. The Galactico tag came with Zidane not with Figo. Either way even in Figo was my fav player back then i wouldn't have supported Barca. I still believe i would have found my way to Real Madrid.
The player that really sealed my heart to the club was Di Stefano after all. And that was just based on what i've read of him. Sometimes i wish i could have seen him play live in action...but i don't want to be so old as well haha...Guess you can't have everything in life

Hell yeah.....

Dukie... you are dead wrong where Man Utd fans have not gone through hard times. I grew up amongst Liverpool glory hunters of the 70s and 80s. Man Utd was deprieved of league glory... only the occasional FA Cup epic triumphs and heartache.... Now my Man Utd have matured and have become successful, I would dearly love to seek out those so called Pool fans and boast... alas they are no more... Pool of old Bill Shankly... not my time..Bob Paisley are by far the one of greatest in English Football history, dominated everything, but I remain Man Utd faithful since their FA Cup loss to Southampton.... bigger heartache when they lost FA Cup to Arsenal 3-2 after coming back from 2 goals down only to lose after Gordon McQueen was sent off. Legends of Man Utd of old Alex Stepney, Joe Jordan, Lou Macari, Greenhorf Brothers, Coppell were the first names I know, their history would have been greater if not for Munich air disaster, a generation of great players perished in a blink of an eye, but like a phoenix, Manchester United rose from the ashes of destruction to greatness under Sir Matt Busby, unmatched till the unimitable Sir Alex Ferguson. Manchester United Forever.

oh boy, u guys can wrote out a lot abt ur love of ur club, but frankly speaking, i juz can't. i can't give out any concrete reason on 'why' i love them.

Which is why I said most of your fans have no idea because a vast majority have only begun supporting after the EPL was established. In any case, Man Utd have always been on the ascendancy, with the exception of being relegated by Man City of course.

What constitutes a glory hunter anyway? You mentioned growing up amongst glory hunting fans from the 70's & 80's. Are they still fans now? If so, I don't think they can be called as such.

Not everyone started supporting Manchester United when they were champions. Which is why I get rather angry when people say Manchester United were all about the money and they rose to the top just like Chelsea.

Glory hunters come in many forms really. For me:

1. A person who supports the player and follows the player instead of club. When the player retires, the person retires from supporting the game or find another person to support.
2. A person who wishes to be associated with success hence will support the winning team or the best team in that time.
3. A person who supports what his friends all support.

1, 2 are the most despicable ones.

In my case, almost my entire school bus supports Liverpool with Man Utd fans forming small pockets in a sea of "Pool fans". Not too sure they do it now, coz they hardly talk football when I try to engage them into a conversation. A passing fad maybe... .

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Added on May 5, 2007, 11:03 amLike me... Tonight I am a RED DEVIL... whose blood is REDDER than RED.... tomorrow, I will pledge my support wholy and completely to Mr. Wenger's Team! Hell Yeah!.

This post has been edited by Grengo01: May 5 2007, 11:03 AM

Well I started supporting Liverpool when we were a winning team, I'd have to admit. Like I said though, you don't get to watch too many games back then, only cup finals.

You talking about Beckham's legion of female fans in point no.1?

Geeze man how old are you?

for me i change to support Liverpool after the incident in Istanbul 2005.....there arent many club who can come bac from 3-0 down to win in CL....tats when my heart is with Liverpool....i fall more deep in love with Liverpool after the FA Cup final against west ham....i was lik giving up hope after seeing Liverpool was down 3-2 n the clock indicate almost no time left for a come back...then tehre goes Gerrard superb blast.....still remember tat day was eating at mamak stall n was going to pay n leave already....after the gerrard blast then sit bac down n continue watch until saw Liverpool win it....so happy.....

before this i am a Real madrid fans becoz Raul Gonzalez is my all times favourite....but since Beckham joining Real Madrid (yay...i hate Beckham ) then i say byebye Madrid....

LOL then don't u fall under one of those categories that Grengo described

Suffice to say am not that old...

Beckham's legion... Owen's Legion... RVN's Legion... and many others... kekekeke.. really cant stand it... my subordinates in the past... Oooooh... you support MU ah? whoa...... Beckham so cuteeeeeeee.... niamah.... thats all they know... or I love Pool... Owen soooooo sweet.... niamah niamah... RVN RVN RVN... knn why SAF sell RVN.. stupid manager... niamah niamah niamah.. these sort of supporters...

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Added on May 5, 2007, 11:47 amabout there.. hating a club because hating a player....

This post has been edited by Grengo01: May 5 2007, 11:47 AM

Grengo's old enough...

I'm a Beckham fan BTW...

I think a true fan will not hate rival clubs... dislike maybe.... I mean we enjoy a friendly banter and stir some fire here and there and see some flers explode... but join in the healthy rivalry.. I think that is great.

True fans will not really explode... coz they know when they are beaten but game enough to say... We Will Nick it Next Season.

Btw, I have this old classmate of mine who loved Derby County for their logo - the RAM... still is a long long suffering Derby Fan...

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Added on May 5, 2007, 11:52 amniamah... kekekekekeke...

nothing wrong being a Beckham fan... but be a footie fan... not just a Beckham fan....

This post has been edited by Grengo01: May 5 2007, 11:52 AM

Quite true. HBK supports Liverpool and I support Man Utd. I never once put down Liverpool when they play each other. Heck, I admire some Liverpool player's as well.

But I even admire "The Special One" as well...

Beckham > ALL!!! LOLOLOL!!! He will spark the sleeping giant that is the MLS, mark my words!!!

This post has been edited by Duke Beard: May 5 2007, 11:55 AM

Aren't most Liverpool fans started to support Liverpool because they are winning team? now you are accusing other fans for doing so?

Liverpool fans shouldn't talk about glory hunter, really...

Many Man Utd fans and other fans out there do admire this spesel one.....

whoa u civilized fan leh.... I taunt and tease.... hahaha... love to see the way those flers explode but those that don't mostly end up being friends... .

HBK truly Pool fan... suffered quite a fair bit in the late 90s and 2000s... hehehehe..

come on lar...

all man united and liverpool fans in malaysia are glory hunter...

liverpool dominate 1970 and 1980 while 1993 till 2000 is man united dynasty...

i support man united since 1999, even they now no more that dominant yet i still support them...

the way people back in UK support their team is different to malaysia...

in UK, most probably people born in manchester will either support city or united, because it is their club...

here, all also glory hunter lar...

I can't really say why I started supporting Manchester United. Was it the players? The fans? The stadium itself? The red jersey? The name Manchester United? The fact that every joker around me supported Liverpool and Arsenal?

I cannot recall.

But I did start supporting them when they weren't anywhere near the top. And it's been one hell of a journey from being in the middle of the table to the top of the table. Now that's been the real enjoyment. Seeing your team, struggle, and end up being champions for a number of years, getting better and better. Of course, the hard times were around too. Losing the titles to Blackburn, Arsenal, Chelsea etc. But that's part and parcel of supporting a team. You don't jump ship when trouble arises.

Reff, well said... never jump ship when the going gets rough... then again.. nowadays tough to say.. tell me in 10 years time you still support the same team..

Its unfair to call all ppl here glory hunters...

How about the football fans who support lower division team like Southampton, Ipswich Town etc....

or EPL mid-table teams like Aston Villa, Middlesbrough, and West Ham United?

Those clubs have got no glory... yet you call them glory hunters?

Aston Villa were big in the 80's...

Yes, I'm a glory hunter because I support the most successful English club since early 80s when winning are our tradition.

No, I'm not a glory hunter because I never stop loving and supporting my team since then. Even through the barren years in the 90s.

I will continue to love and support my beloved club till the day I die.

YNWA

I restrain myself from hurling insults at supporters of rival clubs but I do have sufficient reasons of my own for disliking their clubs. I don't want to start a war on that here, so let's just leave it at that.

Do you even read your own posts? What was the reason you stated for supporting Man Utd again? If you read some of our posts, we give deeper reasons for supporting a club i.e. tradition & culture. How can you call some of us glory hunters when we were supporting our clubs even when they won nothing?

And who the hell has been calling supporters of smaller clubs glory hunters? Your posts are really incoherent.

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Added on May 5, 2007, 12:20 pmIf we were glory hunters, we would have all been supporting Chelsea last season and the season before. Glory hunters are people who jump ship each time a new 'in' team emerges. It has nothing to do with whether or not he knows about his club or not, that determines the quality of fan he is.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 5 2007, 12:22 PM

YOU WERE GLORY HUNTERS
YOU ARE FANS

no,

my point is what make us initially support those 2 big clubs?

the answer is simple, because they are champion...and we are glory hunter...we support those 2 clubs because they always winning...

as i said, till now i also support man united even they not tat strong compare 90's ... this is normal mentality...once we support a club, we wont change even they no more a dominant force...

Glory Hunters??well 1 of my frenz is....n he is a man utd supporters becoz during my Form 5 years where Man Utd was a superb winning team....he always talk cock in fornt of me...btw i am a Liverpool fans....he knows nothing about football....
still remember got 1 days where he find some idea to tease me again becoz man utd win the premier league again.....
he say to me "ooo...man utd win the EPL again....aiseh paiseh lar....Liverpool r nowhere near Man Utd in terms of winning the EPL titles".....from his phrase i found a reason to laugh at his knowledge about the history about EPL....i shoot him bac "ooo....really??but wat i remember Liverpool is the team tat win the EPL most time in history".....he ask his frenz to confrim it n felt embarrased about it...then he say again " well....nvm...EPL is for those small club...we big club focus on CL more on EPL".....the i laugh at him again n say bac to him "but in CL Liverpool also win more times than Man Utd worr".....after tat incident he shut his d*mn mouth n nvr tease me again about Liverpool.......

lesson to be learn: if u r a glory hunter, make sure u be a smart glory hunter

p/s: sry if my msg annoy anyone of u....

Technically he's correct because we've never won the Premier League since it's inception. We have however won the League Championship 18 times but like I said, it's a matter of technicality.

Is there such a thing as a smart glory hunter?

very true
i do that to my brother as well, stupid guy supor tman u when win, then loser say he dun even watch footbal....lolz....

This post has been edited by lolhalol: May 5 2007, 12:50 PM

because when i started watching football during 1997 or 1998, the only team that i actually liked watching was no other then Man Utd. or like a fews years back when a caller called in the morning crew @ hitz fm telling them what team he supported. he said
"its only natural to support them".

This post has been edited by Nothing Better To Do: May 5 2007, 12:53 PM

ooo..really??thx for ur information.....i know this from playing Championship Manager 01-02.....still remember there stated EPL most time record winner= Liverpool (forgot how many times de... )

er im sure many here would disagree for simple reasons.im sure there are people who supported teams based on their style of play or maybe the players itself ? for example back in day in secondary school where my female classmates which hate football, started watching and supported ManUtd because of Beckham.

Most of us here falled in love because of media like the Shoot magazine or the internet or TV. Every clubs has their own history. Sparks by some events - the players, the cup's victory or anything else, you choose to study the club's history. And when you dig more informations, you'll become more engaged to the club. It's not the same as Selangor's supporter as you was born in Selangor or if you're foreigners and you was born somewhere within the club's place. So, FOR ME, it's not a big surprise if anyone of us here supported more than two teams (not in the same time) in his/her entire life. BUT, it's something else if you was born in Selangor but supported Perak team. I remember when KL became dominant in Malaysian football with the likes of Fandi Ahmad, K. Kannan, Mubin Mokhtar etc, the Selangor supporters still behind the Red Giants.

it was during the 1994 fa cup final when king eric scored two penalties against the blues and we won 4-0. was around 11 years old that time of year.

then world cup was around the corner. heh that's where the real interest began. started to play football, eat football drink football lol.

the very next season, finished second in possibly everything. epl, cried when united lost the facup to everton, king eric got the kungfu ban. from that cup final, i realised that the club has been a part of me.

stick with them till now and forever! take me home united road!

No wor... I supported Man Utd when they were NOT WINNING.... I think we can conclude the term glory hunter (ie ppl who jump ship more often than they change their underwears)

I didn't even know Liverpool were the most successful club in England, I was like 8 or 9. I just watched along whenever my brother watched. One of my brothers supported Liverpool while another supported Man Utd. I just happened to start liking Liverpool.

I started since 1997 or was is 1996? Forgot....what did Liverpool win back then?

well, Duke you can SPOT many glory hunters lurking in LYN lar..

Here's one!

Here's another one!


Why do I support Man Utd?

technically I dont even know myself. being stupid enough by thinking that I was born in manchester area. I started to support Selangor first. Why? because I was born and raised in Selangor. well, my home address is both in Selangor and KL. I always thought that Selangor and Man Utd are like my home team.

I've been supporting these 2 teams since primary school. Since I started to play football myself.

How come there's noone who mention how they started supporting Arsenal? Where's all the Gunners? Ok.. I'll share my experience.

The year was 1998. I started watching football at the age of prolly 10. That time maybe one month watch once only. Cause my dad set a curfew on me which is I must sleep before 10pm. Also, that time my love into football isn't that strong. The only team I knew that time was Aston Villa and Arsenal. I tend to mix then up. Seriously. I don't really knew it was ManUtd era that time. I follow the match but not the league. My friends constantly talked about David Beckham=. I was like "Beckham? A ManUtd player? No la, Beckham its Arsenal player." Then I realised I mixed up David with Dennis Bergkamp.

Then it was France98, my dad let me watch most of the dad with him. So from there I started to love watching football but still I havent follow any team yet. From the World Cup, I get to know players like Petit, Zidane, Owen and so on. But the player that caught my eyes was Robert Pires and the Iceman (Bergy). After the WorldCup, I keep my eye on them. I was followed Arsenal but still without the 'depth' in it. Cause primary school was guarded strictly by dad. Cant watch to many games. Euro2000. We all knew what happen. France won again and I love Pires more. And guess what, he signed for Arsenal. By then, I was in secondary school. No more strict rules. Yay.

This moment, I became a serious Arsenal fan. Their freeflowing football. Goal kick + 3 touches = goal. Beauty of football. Its really nice when the team you support won the season without defeat. But its really frustrating this few season. We won nothing. Although we can always say, the future is bright with those youngster, still it mean nothing if you cant win. I'm confident we will be back challenging the other 3 for the title. In AW we trust.

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Added on May 6, 2007, 12:28 amActually I dont really consider Liverpool supporter as glory hunter. Liverpool was having a very hard time around 1995-2000 if I'm not wrong. If memory serves me right, they only won UEFA Cup that period. (sorry if i'm wrong)

One particular forumer stated: I support Liverpool when they won Milan after being 3 goals down. So if Milan won this time, you're gonna support Milan?

This post has been edited by prelude23: May 6 2007, 12:28 AM

i am not GLORY HUNTER XD.. i support liverpool when owen(18 years old) is in the team.. and when i support liverpool.. (standard 5 if not mistaken) mc manaman still in liverpool. that time liv is most down 1.. nv won anything T_T.. makes me so sad.. even FA CUP final win against arns can make me mad that time tee hee hee.. not to say after our master rafa bring us the 5th EC cup ^^..

Actually. I think the term "glory hunter" is exclusively termed for the individuals that tend to interchange the football institution they support, based on the success rate of the club in context.

Where as, its a natural phenomenon when a neutral individual begins to support a team when the club is on a high. When the Club hits a low point in its history, as with all clubs do, that trend in motion then separates the genuine supporters from the glory hunters.

I cant use myself as an example because i began supporting the team i love back in '98 when Arsenal won the 97/98 season and it was so called the end of the Man United era. Coincidentally that 98/99 season, we won the treble, and in the following seasons we were doing absolutely phenomenal up to the point that the neutrals began despising us.
But almost immediately, our style ran out and with all the new changes into the squad and the news that SAF was going to leave us, our performances were affected and we began to dwindle. Then came the emergence of the reinvigorated Chelsea FC and the rest is history.

My point being, in those 3 season that we werent doing well, we got kicked out of CL pretty early, and our playing style was incoherent... i still supported my team.
Though i started supporting my team in the 98/99 season, i stood with my team until this very moment, and im helluva proud of them !!! So i refused to be categorised as a glory hunter... cos im not!

Im sure alota Scousers here are genuine liverpool fans, and its difficult to not admire you guys in general. Maybe thats why the rivalry is intensed between us, cos we're both really passionate supporters !

juz my 2 cents

20+ years and counting.

Liverpool were not winning anything when i started to support them...
y? i dun understand, maybe because my blood is red...
even if they dun win anything, i'll always be with the reds...
You'll Never Walk Alone.... maybe i dun like to walk alone...

14++ years and still counting.

Precisely, many Liverpool fans here began their support in their 90's. From 1990 - 2000, Liverpool collected a grand total of 3 trophies! We managed to win 1 Charity Shield, 1 FA Cup and 1 League Cup, hardly the mark of champions. Our league positions since 1992 were 6th (1992-93), 8th (1993-94), 4th (1994-95), 3rd (1995-96), 4th (1996-97), 3rd (1997-98), 7th (1998-99) and 4th (1999-2000). While we were far from being relegation candidates, we were surely only an average side based on the lack of achievement. How many can remember the last time your team finished 8th? These statistics tell me that Liverpool fans from the 80's or 90's will stay true to the team. If you read the reaction of some fans these days, going a season or two without winning anything is a travesty.

Imagine supporting a team that won League Championships in 1988 & 1990 and then next to nothing for the next 10 years. I know many fans would waver. Proof? Where have all the Leeds Utd & Blackburn fans gone?

When I first began watching football in the late 80;s, you would only see the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal or Tottenham play because ASTRO hadn't arrived on local shores yet and we only got to watch cup finals. It was then natural to support either of these sides, as I find it hard to support a club you don't watch play.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 6 2007, 09:21 AM

started supporting liverpool when i somehow turned on the tv and get to watch macca and fowler in action .. got interested in it and wanted to know more bout liverpool.

Since then i've been a reds fan all along

This post has been edited by Tidus86: May 6 2007, 10:10 AM

haha, reading thru d posts.. think my reason is d most bizzare..

i support Man United, coz of Cantona...
but d reason i idolize Cantona is because...
back in primary school, i didn't know a thing about football..
didn't even watch World Cup 94...

then my friends started calling me "cantona".. cz my name is ERIC...
at dat time wat i heard was "ikan tuna"...
didn't bother much...
then read about his super kung fu kick...
n learnt he was playing for Man United...
so ok lah! support lorr.. hehe..

d 1st football match i 'watched' was d 1996 final against Liverpool...
(DukeRed, i wonder if u'll say it was a boring match as all d commentators say, coz i find it quite absorbing)
my mum wouldn't let me watch, so i had to record it & watch it d next morning..
haha, mana tau my hero scored d winning goal!

since then, I've started reading into d history of d club, & just followed d matches... ya, back then was d Dunhill "road to wembley"...
hehe..wonder if u guys can remember d song... plus d chants:
"liverpool! oh oh oh~ oh oh oh~ liverpool, we're never gonna stop!"
"chelsea chelsea, chelsea chelsea, we're gonna make it a blue day"
"we are champions, oh we are champions!"

hehe.. those were the days..

Hmm... This a debatable point. Its hard to support a team which you cant really see them play you know. Like Blackburn was relegated to Championship after winning the league at 1995 (correct?) and only gain promotion few seasons back then. By then, if you havent see your team play for like few years, you may have lost interest with them. Leeds case too. They are a great team. But its the club failure to manage financially lead them to relegation. Now even worse. To League One.

Malaysia fans are really different from UK fans. Lets dont mention Championship or LeagueOne team. I'll take Fulham or Boro as example here. How often can we see these team played week in week out? Maybe twice a month? I mean live telecast of course. Malaysia mainly only show those big teams but not those smaller team which makes people hardly will support those smaller team. Let alone those Championship teams. I've heard many things about Birmingham this season because they've loan 3 Arsenal youngster. But I've never see them played. Only in YouTube. In UK, you can support smaller team like attending the matchday and so on. But I guess its hard for people here to support smaller teams. But I still believe theres die hard fans who still follow their team even they get relegated. Out of 10, I think there's maybe 2 or 3.

Btw, I would like to pinpoint a 'type' of fans. Some people only become fans because they're occasionally betting that team. They like the team because the club helped them winning money. Like Chelsea last 2 seasons. Now ManU. But they know nuts bout football. I got a friend as example. Once I ask him, what he know about ManU, he say know those things are useless, most important, know they can help you in winning money its ok already. This statement really makes me . Don't only know how to bet. At least know something about the club you're betting on!

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Added on May 6, 2007, 11:11 amOh wait DukeRed, I missed your last sentence. Somehow we agree on the same point.

This post has been edited by prelude23: May 6 2007, 11:11 AM

relax dude.. in liga super malaysia i still support selangor even they finished last.. all my friend always tease me but who cares
selangor still the best in malaysian history

I agree with you! I thought it was a good game with both clubs really going at it.

I have friends who support Norwich and Southampton though they don't get to see their teams play. I totally respect them because of that. This is the reason I keep telling people that they need a deeper reason for supporting a club. We're not just here to be entertained. Notice how the American's came up with the term "Sports Entertainment"? We are here to be part of the club, through thick and thin.

i support man utd after the 1999 tremble...i like the team of 2 deadly dynamic duo cole n yorke with sheringham n ole oka baby assasin along with beckham the deadly crosser,keano the combative captain of the team,giggs the welsh wizard, n scholes the combative attacking midfielder although the team is labelled underachievers in europe by other clubs but i still loved man utd gameplay in the domestic league along with the 1999 final win

nah thats just pure bull$h1+ msia wont improve 4 sure if the TAK APE attitude still creeps in the minds of the people in charge but of cos max respect if u still support local balls

This post has been edited by skylinegtr34rule4life: May 6 2007, 12:30 PM

Hehe mind leave chelsea out of this matter. Many would presume Chelsea Fans a glory hunter and I beg to differ. I was a blues even before Owen made his debut. That time we were just a mid table team and an UEFA cup spot feels like actually winning it. Why Chelsea at that time, partially of casiraghi and gullit. The good old days.

okay okay.. I catch your drift... . Dont want to sound old.... sigh... 20++ years here too.. .

Seydee, I respect Chelsea fans during and before Ranieri's era. They were true London's football aristocrats.. playing delightful football with likes of Zola. The fans... were true fans... long starved off glory. They deserve their glory now, but for those that started hopping on the Chelsea bandwagon since 3 seasons ago, please tell me u still support Chelsea 10 years from today. Or better, if Roman ditch Chelsea and Chelsea FC goes down to Championship League, tell me your blood is still BLUE...

What I meant was Chelsea have been champions for the past 2 seasons and thus, we would have abandoned our clubs and started supporting them if we were glory hunters.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 6 2007, 12:49 PM

Yeah, i remember that. I was in primary school to during that time. It was aired by RTM's TV2 as far i remembered. The programmes will start of with the familiar FA Cup theme song and band marching in into Wembley. In fact , i think the first live football i ever watch is Wimbledon vs Liverpool in 1988 Final.

ASTRO during it early years, the EPL macthes was shown at Supersports CH80, with Shebby as the regular pundit (as far as i can remember)