I love Arsenal because of Pires. Then their free flowing style make me love them deeper and deeper.
What actually makes you support a team..., ...in the first place?
What actually makes you support a team..., ...in the first place?
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May 5 2007, 01:42 AM
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I love Arsenal because of Pires. Then their free flowing style make me love them deeper and deeper.
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May 6 2007, 12:24 AM
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How come there's noone who mention how they started supporting Arsenal? Where's all the Gunners? Ok.. I'll share my experience.
The year was 1998. I started watching football at the age of prolly 10. That time maybe one month watch once only. Cause my dad set a curfew on me which is I must sleep before 10pm. Also, that time my love into football isn't that strong. The only team I knew that time was Aston Villa and Arsenal. I tend to mix then up. Seriously. I don't really knew it was ManUtd era that time. I follow the match but not the league. My friends constantly talked about David Beckham=. I was like "Beckham? A ManUtd player? No la, Beckham its Arsenal player." Then I realised I mixed up David with Dennis Bergkamp. Then it was France98, my dad let me watch most of the dad with him. So from there I started to love watching football but still I havent follow any team yet. From the World Cup, I get to know players like Petit, Zidane, Owen and so on. But the player that caught my eyes was Robert Pires and the Iceman (Bergy). After the WorldCup, I keep my eye on them. I was followed Arsenal but still without the 'depth' in it. Cause primary school was guarded strictly by dad. Cant watch to many games. This moment, I became a serious Arsenal fan. Their freeflowing football. Goal kick + 3 touches = goal. Beauty of football. Its really nice when the team you support won the season without defeat. But its really frustrating this few season. We won nothing. Although we can always say, the future is bright with those youngster, still it mean nothing if you cant win. I'm confident we will be back challenging the other 3 for the title. In AW we trust. Added on May 6, 2007, 12:28 amActually I dont really consider Liverpool supporter as glory hunter. Liverpool was having a very hard time around 1995-2000 if I'm not wrong. If memory serves me right, they only won UEFA Cup that period. (sorry if i'm wrong) One particular forumer stated: I support Liverpool when they won Milan after being 3 goals down. This post has been edited by prelude23: May 6 2007, 12:28 AM |
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May 6 2007, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 6 2007, 09:20 AM) Precisely, many Liverpool fans here began their support in their 90's. From 1990 - 2000, Liverpool collected a grand total of 3 trophies! We managed to win 1 Charity Shield, 1 FA Cup and 1 League Cup, hardly the mark of champions. Our league positions since 1992 were 6th (1992-93), 8th (1993-94), 4th (1994-95), 3rd (1995-96), 4th (1996-97), 3rd (1997-98), 7th (1998-99) and 4th (1999-2000). While we were far from being relegation candidates, we were surely only an average side based on the lack of achievement. How many can remember the last time your team finished 8th? These statistics tell me that Liverpool fans from the 80's or 90's will stay true to the team. If you read the reaction of some fans these days, going a season or two without winning anything is a travesty. Hmm... This a debatable point. Its hard to support a team which you cant really see them play you know. Like Blackburn was relegated to Championship after winning the league at 1995 (correct?) and only gain promotion few seasons back then. By then, if you havent see your team play for like few years, you may have lost interest with them. Leeds case too. They are a great team. But its the club failure to manage financially lead them to relegation. Now even worse. To League One. Imagine supporting a team that won League Championships in 1988 & 1990 and then next to nothing for the next 10 years. I know many fans would waver. Proof? Where have all the Leeds Utd & Blackburn fans gone? When I first began watching football in the late 80;s, you would only see the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal or Tottenham play because ASTRO hadn't arrived on local shores yet and we only got to watch cup finals. It was then natural to support either of these sides, as I find it hard to support a club you don't watch play. Malaysia fans are really different from UK fans. Lets dont mention Championship or LeagueOne team. I'll take Fulham or Boro as example here. How often can we see these team played week in week out? Maybe twice a month? I mean live telecast of course. Malaysia mainly only show those big teams but not those smaller team which makes people hardly will support those smaller team. Let alone those Championship teams. I've heard many things about Birmingham this season because they've loan 3 Arsenal youngster. But I've never see them played. Only in YouTube. In UK, you can support smaller team like attending the matchday and so on. But I guess its hard for people here to support smaller teams. But I still believe theres die hard fans who still follow their team even they get relegated. Out of 10, I think there's maybe 2 or 3. Btw, I would like to pinpoint a 'type' of fans. Some people only become fans because they're occasionally betting that team. They like the team because the club helped them winning money. Like Chelsea last 2 seasons. Now ManU. But they know nuts bout football. I got a friend as example. Once I ask him, what he know about ManU, he say know those things are useless, most important, know they can help you in winning money its ok already. This statement really makes me Added on May 6, 2007, 11:11 amOh wait DukeRed, I missed your last sentence. Somehow we agree on the same point. This post has been edited by prelude23: May 6 2007, 11:11 AM |
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May 7 2007, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(refnulf @ May 6 2007, 07:43 PM) You're also forgetting Fletcher, O'Shea, Brown who are also playing in almost every game now. English clubs don't even have an election to win.Also, you're forgetting that we don't buy 20 players at once. We buy players as we need them. We don't go after galacticos or whatever just to win elections. Our upper management doesn't go around promising the fans certain players to get votes and support. We also don't go targeting players that are on top of their game, and keep on coming out with crap to unsettle them. We target a player we need for a certain position and we try our best to get him. Not because he's a galactico. We have more home grown players than any of the top four in the premiership. We also have the least foreign players on the field. Added on May 7, 2007, 10:42 am QUOTE(air_mood @ May 7 2007, 02:05 AM) Rooney and Ronaldo when bought isn't really the finish article are they??? Vidic, Heinze, weren't the defenders with statures of Cannavaro, Samuel and Woodgate weren't they?? Carrick is no Zidane or Figo ain't he??? Nor is Saha a Ronaldo. that's the difference between us and you. You buy ready made, established stars for ridiculous money. And that is a bloody fact. You're comparing Djemba and Forlan with your backups??Djemba cost around 4 mill and Forlan was 6.9 mill. How much is the likes of Baptista, Robinho, Higuain, Diarra who normally wars your bench again??? As for hating your club, I've never really hidden it have I?? I have always been very vocal about my hatred for Madrid and Chelski and the reason why. Like I said, that reason may not be valid or pathetic to you, a Real Madrid fan. But it's a valid one for many other people. And it won't be that hard for you to find people who hates your club for that same reason as well. QUOTE(boxsystem @ May 7 2007, 02:06 AM) no disrespect to you but tell me this season, which and how many players did u bought to enhance the team? what u guys have won? to be honest, beckham helped u guys a lot to win some crucial matches rite? and how many did he play for the starting eleven? how many times he was left out? Hey, enough bashing on RealMadrid. They are different from Chelsea. In Chelsea case, one sugardaddy came and take over the club and inject them with millions transfer fund. Their management did not even work for the fund. we bought big names and bring them to our club yes we do. but as you can see do we bench them? no no no we dont. we bought them at hell of a price because we believed that they could bring quality to our team. unlike your team which buys players for the sake of winning votes. lets just compare this season alone. how many signings did your team made? and ours? what does your team has accomplished so far? tell me about that italian striker. what was his name again? Cassano? how many times did he started for first eleven this time? and how many times did our signing Carrick started as first eleven this season? from this reason alone it shows that our point is valid and why we aren't so fond of your club. But I believe RM is different. As verx and soul said, they got their business plan and their huge transfer fund does not come overnight. Its been decade and this is their tradition I guess. And its good to be own by your own fans. Rather than some business tycoon who took over the club without knowing much about it right? I'm not refering to any particular club here. RM have the luxury to buy player but not playing them. Thats why many considered RM as the graveyard to footballers. I'll say the problem about RealMadrid for the past few seasons is their manager. I've lost count on how many manager have managed RM for the past 5 years. Luxembergo (right spelling?), Capello, Queiroz, Camacho, Del Bosque, Ramon and so on... How often do you see a giant club change manager so often? Well, my knowledge on RM is not really that much. Don't be hard on me. This post has been edited by prelude23: May 7 2007, 10:51 AM |
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May 7 2007, 11:09 AM
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Hmm... At least RM money came from their own fans. Unlike Chelsea.
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May 7 2007, 11:34 AM
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Nice point DukeRed
But actually, I think the Manutd fans were saying that their hatred towards RM is because RM buy good players but often end up benching them and not playing them which I think is quite true. But hey, RM have the luxury for that thanks to their business plan and solid history. QUOTE(air_mood @ May 6 2007, 02:22 PM) Maybe. But I do hate Liverpool for starters. Why?? Because I love my club. The hate of Liverpool is mostly because of geographic location. Liverpool is what, 30 miles from Manchester? Same with Leeds, geographic location. But with Pool there's that something wee bit special. the fact that we're rivals in terms that we've been challenging for glories all these years. It's kinda like when we're not top, it's your turn to go top as can be seen thruout the duration of the league tournaments. Bitter, bitter rivals, so Man United fans don't really need to manufacture hate to hate Liverpool and vice versa. This post has been edited by prelude23: May 7 2007, 11:34 AMAs for my hatred for Chelski and Real. It's more down to principles then anything. Nothing to do with jealousy. I hate clubs which just buy players, and don't bring them through. |
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May 8 2007, 05:27 AM
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