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 Nikon D40x VS Canon 400D, which is better?

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post May 3 2007, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(kjin @ May 3 2007, 09:24 AM)
400d smile.gif af motor mar  nod.gif  you can use all the lens you want biggrin.gif do you wanna use manual focus? if it's no prob then go for d40x  smile.gif

more focus points, but i doubt that's a strong point, but useful  smile.gif but if you can afford, go nikon d80  laugh.gif

oh btw, it's just a humble opinion from a nikon user  whistling.gif
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Just curious, how many popular lenses cannot be used on d40/d40x.., the 50mm f/1.8 cannot right? How about those popular 3rd party lenses? Tamron 28-75 f/2.8?
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post May 3 2007, 10:49 AM

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it can be used....
but without the autofocus function...
thats all...
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post May 3 2007, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(xandman @ May 3 2007, 10:49 AM)
it can be used....
but without the autofocus function...
thats all...
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Well, i mean with autofocus.
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post May 3 2007, 05:06 PM

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the lens compatibility is my main concern now, after a brief consideration i think i'll go for Canon still


Added on May 3, 2007, 5:09 pm
QUOTE(lvyk @ May 2 2007, 10:05 PM)
Here are some of the example shots on USTC comparing 400D & D40..

My friend D40 Picture Setting is Normal.
35mm f5.6 1/60 ISO800 EV+0

My 400D Picture Setting is Standard - Saturation +1.
55mm f5.6 1/60 ISO800 EV+0.7

What I like about Nikon D40
1. Colour (Maybe Canon can set like Nikon's?)
2. How they display the information of your pictures when you review
3. Nice Interface
4. Auto ISO (I'm not sure others find this useful or not)
5. Battery more power flex.gif (1000 [D40] compare to 720mAh [400D])
6. Better Kit Lens???

Correct me if I'm wrong... And hopes this help... smile.gif
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/modern-exposure.htm
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/users...hooting.htm#iso
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/users...s-custom.htm#10

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correct me if im wrong, left is D40x? right is Canon 400D?


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post May 3 2007, 06:27 PM

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left is D40 And right Is 400D.
Right click on the picture and save the picture on ur Desktop.
Then Right Click on the picture > click Properties > Summary > Advanced.
All the picture details there. also the camera Model.

I also consider to take 400D, 30D ANd D80. At last i bought D80 And i love using it now. hehehe
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post May 4 2007, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(lvyk @ May 2 2007, 10:05 PM)
Here are some of the example shots on USTC comparing 400D & D40...

user posted imageuser posted image

My friend D40 Picture Setting is Normal.
35mm f5.6 1/60 ISO800 EV+0

My 400D Picture Setting is Standard - Saturation +1.
55mm f5.6 1/60 ISO800 EV+0.7

What I like about Nikon D40
1. Colour (Maybe Canon can set like Nikon's?)
2. How they display the information of your pictures when you review
3. Nice Interface
4. Auto ISO (I'm not sure others find this useful or not)
5. Battery more power flex.gif (1000 [D40] compare to 720mAh [400D])
6. Better Kit Lens???

Correct me if I'm wrong... And hopes this help... smile.gif
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/modern-exposure.htm
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/users...hooting.htm#iso
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/users...s-custom.htm#10

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apa la how can compare like this settings all diffrent how can u hike up the EV on the canon to +0.7 and the nikon is +0
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post May 4 2007, 02:47 PM

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Correct me if I'm wrong...

From my experience on D40 and 400D...

The D40 metering temps to be over expose abit compare to my 400D...
As you can see the exposure on the 2 pictures are more or less the same... smile.gif

The pics are just for reference on the colour only...
No meaning to compare that Nikon or Canon is better... Peace... icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by lvyk: May 4 2007, 02:51 PM
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post May 4 2007, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(lvyk @ May 4 2007, 02:47 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong...

From my experience on D40 and 400D...

The D40 metering temps to be over expose abit compare to my 400D...
As you can see the exposure on the 2 pictures are more or less the same... smile.gif
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more like the 400d underexposes? and why is there a saturation +1 in the settings? not a really fair comparison. tht said, i still prefer the colors on the d40.
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post May 4 2007, 02:55 PM

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still the nikon's colour processor produce richer colours

This post has been edited by hsienming: May 20 2007, 04:22 PM
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post May 4 2007, 02:56 PM

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Correct... My bad...
Should be in this way...
D40 will normally +0.7 EV while 400D is +0EV?
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post May 4 2007, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(lvyk @ May 4 2007, 02:56 PM)
Correct... My bad...
Should be in this way...
D40 will normally +0.7 EV while 400D is +0EV?
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but when u look at the pic 400d with +0.7EV still looks under while d40 at +0ev is ok. if the d40 would be +0.7ev, it would overexpose, while 400d would underexpose at +0
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post May 4 2007, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(clemong_888 @ May 4 2007, 03:02 PM)
but when u look at the pic 400d with +0.7EV still looks under while d40 at +0ev is ok. if the d40 would be +0.7ev, it would overexpose, while 400d would underexpose at +0
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Walao eh... What have I typed... doh.gif
Sorry my English is bad... doh.gif

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post May 4 2007, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(lvyk @ May 4 2007, 03:09 PM)
Walao eh... What have I typed... doh.gif
Sorry my English is bad... doh.gif

Thats what I'm trying to say... sweat.gif
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wats your point? u typed wrong or wat?
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post May 4 2007, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(hsienming @ May 4 2007, 03:52 PM)
wats your point? u typed wrong or wat?
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I phrased it wrongly... Paiseh... sweat.gif
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post May 4 2007, 04:03 PM

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so means both camera uses EV+0 la
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post May 4 2007, 04:18 PM

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HHHmmm, lets say in this way...

400D +0.7EV will produce the exposure nearly like D40 +0 EV...
Or like clemong_888 said under than D40's +0 EV...

But that's a 35mm (D40) vs 55mm (400D). Focal length, shooting angles and other settings are differing as well...
So don't take the comparison seriously... I post it for reference only... sweat.gif
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post May 4 2007, 04:22 PM

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oo coz i really need a good shot to compare still in delimma to buy nikon or canon laugh.gif
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post May 19 2007, 02:48 PM

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i also newbie into DSLR and considering both models.. (D40x vs 400D, RM2500 vs RM2700 respectively)

until now still undecided which one to buy...

reason to go for D40x:
1. released on March 07, i assume new technology always better?
2. price lower
3. heard that nikkor all are AF-S lenses in future??
4. or shall i get D40 only? do i need 10MP if i seldom develop my pic?

reason to go for 400D:
1. few of my frens using canon, so can always borrow better lenses from them? hehe
2. more focus point, is it better??
3. more features? i think la..


so, any more comments or recommedation can give to me?

p/s: what is the best price for D40x vs 400D in KL? (kit lens + 2GB card + bag)
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post May 19 2007, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(hsienming @ May 4 2007, 02:37 PM)
apa la how can compare like this settings all diffrent how can u hike up the EV on the canon to +0.7 and the nikon is +0
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Yup. We need to fix both camera's metering type (eg. spot or matrix/evaluative) and at 0 EV to see which cam's metering is more accurate. But basically we can tell that by hiking up the Canon's exposure, the 400D tends to underexpose.

Also, the White Balance does not tally for both pictures. The 400D photo seems to be on the cold side (which may be correct, but is not as lively as the D40 picture).

Saturation also should be the same for both cams. The cam with +1 saturation will almost always come up with more lively colours which may or may not be truthful to the actual scene... but the scene as reproduced as a photo is subject to the photographer's own tasteful interpretation. But funny that the Canon's pic even with +1 colour saturation isn't as lively as the D40's... but then again each manufacturer has its own definition of what is 0 saturation level.


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post May 22 2007, 10:03 AM

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how about DOF preview button? AFAIK Canon 400D has this feature but not D40/D40x. Is that really important to have DOF preview button if i'm more into potrait photography?

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