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 Dell XPS M1210 Support Thread #1, COD4? No problem...

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post May 10 2007, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(kwws @ May 10 2007, 04:57 PM)
Dell's D630 is out...i just configured with almost similar spec with my XPS for around 5.4k only...santa rosa man!!!
but anyway its heavier though...heard that intel's base media graphics should be way better than Go7400
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wah!...finally...santa rosa is in our shore... rclxms.gif
looking forward for thread the full with santa rosa owners... cool2.gif
how many models Dell planning to launch with santa rosa? hmm.gif
wah!...really?...intel's base media graphics is better?... rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kwws @ May 10 2007, 04:21 PM)
i think i've found the problem...so far im not sure whether its vista prob or my hardware problem...but i believe the main issue should be software based i suppose...
i jus found out that evrytime i boot up vista ultimate, my HDD light will keep blinking for around 5-10 minutes maybe...not too sure...all i noe is it will take some time...if im loading the dreamscene wallpaper when the HDD is still running initially, i will experience problems i've stated jusnow...driver stop responding, lagging...blabla

so off i set, i patiently wait for the HDD to stop blinking in the end, n i load the dreamscene after that, evrything went smoothly without hassle nod.gif no frequent blinking in HDD icon anymore...

so any dreamscene users out thr, beware...
i think its advisable not to set ur dreamscene wallpaper whenever u reboot, only set it after u finish booting up, so its better to turn it off evrytime u wanna shut down...
im still experimenting this..

any vista ultimate users out thr plz note this problem...i suppose 5400rpm HDD is not enuf for vista sweat.gif


Added on May 10, 2007, 4:25 pm

u mean if got yellow light on the gap of webcam n lcd over thr means is toshiba lcd unit?
i think my white contrast oso abit yellow....but dunno...i think jus the colors abit warmer....its ok for me though...the last replacement unit i have was a pure white one, perhaps its samsung im not sure, n doesnt have the yellow light above the webcam thr like my old unit...but the colors seems unreal to me, lighter contrast, less saturation and abit of light leakage, so i reswap the lcd...

wad i did is i tweaked the color n contrast settings in nvidia panel...i managed to get good colors after that...but be warn u need to spend some time fixing that...colors r v sensitive  icon_rolleyes.gif
but for my vista now, cant tweak it anymore...no such settings on vista driver sweat.gif

i think ur just too sensitive with it...overall its nothing much...jus bear with it...some LCDs are worst off out thr
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I think that's Vista's indexing system at work... It indexes your hard drive every time you add something new, or delete something so make searches faster... I personally set my HDD to NOT be indexed for this very reason, so that it doesn't use the HDD unnecessarily... icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on May 10, 2007, 8:12 pm
QUOTE(kwws @ May 10 2007, 04:57 PM)
Dell's D630 is out...i just configured with almost similar spec with my XPS for around 5.4k only...santa rosa man!!!
but anyway its heavier though...heard that intel's base media graphics should be way better than Go7400
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X3100 is just a mobile version of the GMA X3000, so comparable to the 7400go, yes... Way better, I don't think so... It's still running DirectX9.0c with Shader Model 3 too... icon_rolleyes.gif

But it's sure WAYYYYY better then any 900 series GMA out there... thumbup.gif

EDIT: I've checked online, it seems that the X3000 IS better then the NVs GF6150 onboard chip, at least... The mobile X3100 should be around that point too... icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 10 2007, 08:35 PM

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My score on 3DMark06...
Using Nvidia Go 7400, 2.0GHz Core 2 Duo, 2 x 1024MB DDR2 Ram at 667MHz, Windows Vista Home Premium


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post May 10 2007, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ May 10 2007, 08:06 PM)
I think that's Vista's indexing system at work... It indexes your hard drive every time you add something new, or delete something so make searches faster... I personally set my HDD to NOT be indexed for this very reason, so that it doesn't use the HDD unnecessarily... icon_rolleyes.gif
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i disabled indexing part...but the problem still persists...evrytime i boot up vista, the HDD will keep on blinking for around 3-5 minutes...checked thru task manager couldnt find anything suspecting... sweat.gif
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yeah...
mine too...
the hdd blinks for 3-5 minutes every time when the system boots up.
and when i use the reliability and performance monitor to check, it's svchost that is the culprit. still not sure of why that svchost stresses the hard disk so much every time during system bootup.....
it's like reading all the dll files in the computer...
try monitoring it by searching for "reliability and performance monitor" in ur vista.....


Added on May 10, 2007, 9:06 pmyeah...
mine too...
the hdd blinks for 3-5 minutes every time when the system boots up.
and when i use the reliability and performance monitor to check, it's svchost that is the culprit. still not sure of why that svchost stresses the hard disk so much every time during system bootup.....
it's like reading all the dll files in the computer...
try monitoring it by searching for "reliability and performance monitor" in ur vista.....

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post May 10 2007, 09:38 PM

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watchout for nvidia users...'nvlddmkm' pop up error has been very common
i recommend u guys to stop using dreamscene if anyone of you has one, as the current nvidia driver has problem with dreamscene...it keeps on hanging n crashes...after that ur dreamscene becomes very laggy n so is ur gaming...
normally it happens after u done gaming with dreamscene working in background and oso normal bootup...so far nvidia hasnt solve this problem yet

man...nvidia just sucks big time! regret having it
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QUOTE(kwws @ May 10 2007, 08:38 AM)
watchout for nvidia users...'nvlddmkm' pop up error has been very common
i recommend u guys to stop using dreamscene if anyone of you has one, as the current nvidia driver has problem with dreamscene...it keeps on hanging n crashes...after that ur dreamscene becomes very laggy n so is ur gaming...
normally it happens after u done gaming with dreamscene working in background and oso normal bootup...so far nvidia hasnt solve this problem yet

man...nvidia just sucks big time! regret having it
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Im sorry to hear that.. i dont think its just nvidia's fault. Like i mention earlier, it would be better for us laptop user to stick with XP for the time being. As we all know all our laptops are not dx10-capable, so why bother Vista unless u see some performance gains etc.

By the way, NewbieBetta.. thanks thank thanks !! rclxms.gif So here is the pro result:

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its about the same as the free one.NewbieBetta, i really appreciate ur help. And for those who lazy to read the whole thread, i know im not qualify as im not in XPS league. but still, my system is a mobile system. I guess i beat my own 1st score on the comparison for d same configuration.

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here it says #1(You) the score is just 5375 but the other one is 5377. Just beat myself by 2 points ! thumbup.gif


FOR GC temperature & core memory MONITORING on system tray or dekstop, please scroll to my previous reply. Its somewhere up there..(right now its for Nvidia cards only tho,sorry i dont have ATi card so.. anyone with ATi card please post if already know-how)



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post May 10 2007, 10:07 PM

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well i believe its purely nvidia problem...nvidia has had alot of driver issues with vista some time ago...
i did a research, some desktop users with top-notched nvidia cards such as 7900GS etc oso having same problem in the end they switched to ATi cards...
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QUOTE(kwws @ May 10 2007, 09:07 AM)
well i believe its purely nvidia problem...nvidia has had alot of driver issues with vista some time ago...
i did a research, some desktop users with top-notched nvidia cards such as 7900GS etc oso having same problem in the end they switched to ATi cards...
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oh ok yeah what i mean is not just nvidia drivers are the problems on Vista. Theres alot of others like decrease in performance etc. the decrease is just not on nvidia cards but ati as well. Currently SLi also is having problem with Vista. They even test Vista with multitasking benchmarks and yet it cant prove itself worth switching from XP for what it costs.ATi desktop card so far has the best card if u compare it with any nvidia 7xxx lineups.. i said so bcoz its not fair to compare those 8xxx series with ATi as they are not mean to be in the same league. But for laptops, Nvidia still has the best cards on them, no doubt about that. Theres numbers to prove it indeed.


Guys, as this is most viewed Dell XPS m1210 support thread i would suggest if anyone of you could list down what is ur current problem with Vista or lappie. for example,

Derred: dreamscene flickering and unpleasant sound come from HDD.

haha i dont have any idea what i wrote upthere bcoz i dont have Vista. Just try this way so we can put solution under em so forumers with same problems or new forumers dont have to read all 9 pages thread to find his solutions OR repeating the same question all over again. So how is this sounds to u guys ? I have been doing some research but theres alot of xps users are switching back to XP for now on.
If u think its a driver problem, u guys can try the modded ins drivers. It wont cost u anything so why dont u give it a try.

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mod it? hah im not a born programmer lolz...for the meantime i jus disable dreamscene anyway...evrything works fine without it being on...

yeah XP is more stable n has higher performance efficiency...vista is really a hardware killer...but dang im not sure bout other users but my XP on XPS always hang halfway whenever i install Hamachi....as for vista hamachi works perfectly.
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QUOTE(kwws @ May 10 2007, 10:44 AM)
mod it? hah im not a born programmer lolz...for the meantime i jus disable dreamscene anyway...evrything works fine without it being on...

yeah XP is more stable n has higher performance efficiency...vista is really a hardware killer...but dang im not sure bout other users but my XP on XPS always hang halfway whenever i install Hamachi....as for vista hamachi works perfectly.
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thats rite but consider where im at rite now i dont need hamachi.. for now. But i absolutely know i need it somewhere near in the future for sure.

what i meant by the modded drivers are the one which are not official ones. I was thinking to post a link to it here but when i reconsider i dont think that would be a smart move from me. I believe i would do more damage than being helpful. especially when ur guys on Vista. Unless u really are statswhore and have huge patience inside u.. im more willing than anything to help.. assuming ur XP and Nvidia users..

p/s: My personal experience it doesnt go that smooth either. I have increase framerate for some games, loss for some new games.. and absolutely loss on 3dmark scores.. sometimes 3dmark's alone arent enuf.. u need real games bcoz thats what u really play and use
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im not a vista fan...but heck...i face some problems in my XP...
so i reformatted the whole HDD n get vista for new look
for now i jus try my best to live with it
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ May 10 2007, 03:08 AM)
ic..sorry..i tought u are using xps..yeah i notice you are on 7900GS the score are ok..im not a nvidia 7 series user..not sure about how a 7900GS will score..

well im actually not complaining my high temp GC,cause i will call definitely call dell on this problem..I had PM you regarding the 3Dmark06
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hmm i did reply u but in case u missed it, i would like to say thank you again.. now mine works like you. In fact, i beat my own record by 2 points ! check out my newest scores on my previous post with the Pro Edition.. i got first rank for any same config that other users have.. i bet not so many ppl have the same config thats why i got such rank.. or im just plain lucky. I dont even OC mine... yet (waiting for the warranty to expired.. in 2 years doh.gif ). Thanks again ur the man..


ur way off from the hint i gave.. its 7900 go gs..s u'll definitely get it if u see my hint closely..haha


Added on May 11, 2007, 12:38 am
QUOTE(kwws @ May 10 2007, 11:27 AM)
im not a vista fan...but heck...i face some problems in my XP...
so i reformatted the whole HDD n get vista for new look
for now i jus try my best to live with it
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oh ok too bad for u.. i would be willing to help if u need it.. but its fine Vista wont do any more harm to u.. disabling that works.. btw any scores for the Vista so far? Preferably games than 3dmark..

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QUOTE(derred @ May 11 2007, 12:23 AM)
thats rite but consider where im at rite now i dont need hamachi.. for now. But i absolutely know i need it somewhere near in the future for sure.

what i meant by the modded drivers are the one which are not official ones. I was thinking to post a link to it here but when i reconsider i dont think that would be a smart move from me. I believe i would do more damage than being helpful. especially when ur guys on Vista. Unless u really are statswhore and have huge patience inside u.. im more willing than anything to help.. assuming ur XP and Nvidia users..

p/s: My personal experience it doesnt go that smooth either. I have increase framerate for some games, loss for some new games.. and absolutely loss on 3dmark scores.. sometimes 3dmark's alone arent enuf.. u need real games bcoz thats what u really play and use
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True... Real games matter more... icon_rolleyes.gif

But it still boggles your mind when you see your 3DMark06 stutter around 1-2FPS at 1280x800 when STALKER manages that just fine, with only slight slowdowns... And for those of you who are wondering, yes I'm trying 3DMark06 (using the lappy downstairs rite now), and I think - from the slide show that it was showing for the 1st test - that I'm another sub-200 point guy...

Funny isn't it, that some other people (dingding, wink wink) can post 800 3DMark06 points under Vista when I and my fellow sufferer NewbieBetta am crawling around at 1-2 frames per minute for each test...

For the modded drivers, actually, I've posted links already for MobileForce drivers in Frontpage... I've tried them even... Guess what, they dropped Aero Performance in the Vista ranking system to 2.0 points, gaming to 2 something... No noticeable gains in FEAR either...

Is it just me, or is my XPS finally showing its hidden lemon within?


Added on May 11, 2007, 1:59 amWith that being said, I'm gonna install the latest MobileForce drivers anyway just to make me feel better... icon_rolleyes.gif

And if I feel bad after doing THAT, back to the Dell drivers for me... sweat.gif

Ah, the life of a troubleshooter...

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theres alot than just MobileForce.. but like i said, i prob do more damage than help if i post just links.. modded drivers varies on everyone bcoz we all dont play the same exact games and settings.. so it really trials and errors for that. If not careful u might mixed drivers a make ur system alot lot worse than it is now.. i also mention for modded drivers or just the normal ones, such tests arent that accurate.. we need try it with real games.. as long within range for in-game framerate, i would say u'll be just fine. So far everything seems to work flawlessly on mine. i shud be very grateful thumbup.gif

Eiraku check ur PM.. hope that helps..

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QUOTE(derred @ May 11 2007, 02:00 AM)
theres alot than just MobileForce.. but like i said, i prob do more damage than help if i post just links.. modded drivers varies on everyone bcoz we all dont play the same exact games and settings.. so it really trials and errors for that. If not careful u might mixed drivers a make ur system alot lot worse than it is now..  i also mention for modded drivers or just the normal ones, such tests arent that accurate.. we need try it with real games.. as long within range for in-game framerate, i would say u'll be just fine. So far everything seems to work flawlessly on mine. i shud be very grateful  thumbup.gif
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Point taken... And we still haven't gone into the motherboard melting dark world of OCing yet... *sigh*

Welcome to the realities of a 12inch lappy, which - somewhat like the realities of life - is hard but necessary to swallow... If I wanted performance so much I shoulda gotten myself a 7900gs Insp 9400, eh?

For that matter, 30-35 FPS mostly medium settings, 640x480 FEAR and 15-30 FPS mostly high settings, static lighting, 1280x800 STALKER; is that normal by the 7400go's standard?
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ May 10 2007, 01:09 PM)
Point taken... And we still haven't gone into the motherboard melting dark world of OCing yet... *sigh*

Welcome to the realities of a 12inch lappy, which - somewhat like the realities of life - is hard but necessary to swallow... If I wanted performance so much I shoulda gotten myself a 7900gs Insp 9400, eh?

For that matter, 30-35 FPS mostly medium settings, 640x480 FEAR and 15-30 FPS mostly high settings, static lighting, 1280x800 STALKER; is that normal by the 7400go's standard?
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i would say that's impressive performance for the card.. i think i shud take back all my 3dmark scores. It doesnt belongs here and im afraid it will bother some of u guys.. i dont want to repeat myself but just ignore the 3dmark scores for now.. the thing is we want to know how well our systems performance are based on their specs.. as long as it works within range, i'll say enjoy ur systems while its on its domain.. unless its really not working as it shud, called it the reality of life (taken from Eiraku)

by the way dont worry about the huge gap between the 7400go and 7900go.. because what u see is actually not a gap between 7400go and 7900go.. its 7900go gs's

yup yeah yup, some of u already got it right..

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QUOTE(derred @ May 11 2007, 12:35 AM)
oh ok too bad for u.. i would be willing to help if u need it.. but its fine Vista wont do any more harm to u.. disabling that works.. btw any scores for the Vista so far? Preferably games than 3dmark..
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ May 11 2007, 02:09 AM)
Point taken... And we still haven't gone into the motherboard melting dark world of OCing yet... *sigh*

Welcome to the realities of a 12inch lappy, which - somewhat like the realities of life - is hard but necessary to swallow... If I wanted performance so much I shoulda gotten myself a 7900gs Insp 9400, eh?

For that matter, 30-35 FPS mostly medium settings, 640x480 FEAR and 15-30 FPS mostly high settings, static lighting, 1280x800 STALKER; is that normal by the 7400go's standard?
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im not a hardcore gamer....dont really pay attention towards it...but i do play dota anyway, with background apps still on, i can play at 1280x800 resolution flawlessly still on vista...perhaps my RAM helps alot:peace:

since this lappy is NOT designed for games...i hope u guys dun take it for granted becuz its a Geforce card...

this lappy model is designed for light gaming only...yet i've came across alot of ppl whining over the tweaking of gaming graphics n so on... shakehead.gif the go7400 upgrade is just adding abit of icing on the cake, eiraku got a point thr, i hope those newbies who r planning to get an xps, think bout this: dun expect this machine to do extensive gaming for u, if u want gaming, get urself a 6400 or 9400 with better graphics wouldnt you? nod.gif

i've seen the graphics module myself, its just a small chip embedded on mobo...not a separated independent one...its just powerful enuf to offer something a lil' bit more than intel media accelerator, but basically i believe both oso roughly the same, just that go7400 can support slightly more games than intel's base graphics...I've compared aero performance with my fren's inspiron 6400 with intel media, aero performance is somewhat identical...even though my index score is 0.5-0.6 higher...doesnt make much difference...

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i agree with u.. but we just want to be sure that the XPS m1210 works on its performance and one of the ways to measure that is by doing benchmark tests or fps rates. By discussing it here i hope some of owners out there will found this thread helps those who need em. Sometimes not everyone knows what to do.. and everything u said its absolutely true.. buy mid-range or high-end puters if u want to do heavy gamings. It doesnt mean it wont work with F.E.A.R or else, it just it wont works as good on other better models. Hmm im not sure if its worth to OC when u bought 3-years warranty for it. If i personally owned XPS i'll definitely wont risk it. I'll buy a better system to do heavy gaming instead.



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