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 Accident no insurance,no road tax,no police report, WKN7729 Chen Yoon Kwee in Salak Selatan

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post Nov 2 2018, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Nov 2 2018, 11:34 AM)
Erm, maybe check with the R.AGE team from The Star? Or is it The Metro.. Just check with The Star la. Maybe send them the link to this thread too. They would be happy to pick up I hope. console.gif
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Sad thing is, media will only cover this story if the story has market value and sellable. Try 2 convince them of course.
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post Nov 2 2018, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(imalmighty @ Nov 2 2018, 12:12 PM)
Sad thing is, media will only cover this story if the story has market value and sellable. Try 2 convince them of course.
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No lar, the R.AGE and the Metro so far doesn't really only pick up sellable stories lar. They are sort of investigative journalists, and this story of TS does have some values in the sense that they can help find out if it's really that difficult for a normal citizen to pick up a civil case against another. I hope I'm right lar. laugh.gif
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post Nov 2 2018, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Nov 2 2018, 12:30 PM)
No lar, the R.AGE and the Metro so far doesn't really only pick up sellable stories lar. They are sort of investigative journalists, and this story of TS does have some values in the sense that they can help find out if it's really that difficult for a normal citizen to pick up a civil case against another. I hope I'm right lar.  laugh.gif
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If they are investigative journalist, then it's good. It is up to them to think of a clickbait title that would garner attention, haha, we dont have to crack our brains 4 that.
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post Nov 2 2018, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Oct 31 2018, 11:41 PM)
One that involves a car that is uninsured, no road tax, irresponsibility driven by criminal, involved in a hit and run case that resulted in death(s).

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If involved injury/death, much easier lor....definitely got medical report and police report/coroner's report. Case facts will be much more and official.

Got other laws that can be used to charge the suspect.
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post Nov 2 2018, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Nov 2 2018, 02:51 PM)
If involved injury/death, much easier lor....definitely got medical report and police report/coroner's report. Case facts will be much more and official.

Got other laws that can be used to charge the suspect.
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I stated that in the context of letting the Judge have the choice of setting a legal precedence.

It will be used to highlight that there are ramifications.

Prevention is better than cure.

If the judge lets this slide, we should all just stop paying roadtax and insurance, then just suka hati drive. Want to sue, sue loh. We won't sign any letters from the court, don't settle with whomever we langgar.
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post Nov 2 2018, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Nov 2 2018, 03:11 PM)
I stated that in the context of letting the Judge have the choice of setting a legal precedence.

It will be used to highlight that there are ramifications.

Prevention is better than cure.

If the judge lets this slide, we should all just stop paying roadtax and insurance, then just suka hati drive. Want to sue, sue loh. We won't sign any letters from the court, don't settle with whomever we langgar.
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This is also one way to publicise this issue, the anti way. By promoting that there is no issue/reprecursion in driving without road tax and driving license, more and more people will see theres no benefit in getting insurance or paying roadtax. Only then will government moves.
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post Nov 2 2018, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Nov 2 2018, 03:11 PM)
I stated that in the context of letting the Judge have the choice of setting a legal precedence.

It will be used to highlight that there are ramifications.

Prevention is better than cure.

If the judge lets this slide, we should all just stop paying roadtax and insurance, then just suka hati drive. Want to sue, sue loh. We won't sign any letters from the court, don't settle with whomever we langgar.
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This is very true.. I've been following this case since inception and saddened to read that TS has decided to throw in the towel. I know very well how hard this must be and respect his decision as it's a logical one. Dear TS, you have suffered enough. Thanks for pushing the legal system as hard as you have. Unfortunately, common folks like us continue to suffer such. You have earned my respect and should you decide to go public and require physical presence of supporters.. Feel free to PM me. notworthy.gif

QUOTE(zemega @ Nov 2 2018, 03:53 PM)
This is also one way to publicise this issue, the anti way. By promoting that there is no issue/reprecursion in driving without road tax and driving license, more and more people will see theres no benefit in getting insurance or paying roadtax. Only then will government moves.
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As true as this is.. I'm not sure my being on the wrong side of the law and risking fines and or penalties is the best way to go about it.. Oh wai.. There are no fines and or penalties cuz the law system refuses to enforce them.. doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(imalmighty @ Nov 2 2018, 02:27 AM)
Sad thing to hear, stay strong TS. Our judicial system is a joke. Clear cut, crystal clear case, but judge lassiez-faire and act like AI software. Why are they getting 5 figure salary when an AI software can do the same? Why we need human to be a judge when when what they're doing can be performed and emulated by a robot??!!

This is actually happening, TS aint fabricating the story. To those who mock TS, what if one day this happen to u or some1 u cherish? Youll never know one day youll be using TS's case as precedent. He helped brought this matter to attention, he's the pioneer who brought upon change 2 our law system, he paved the road 4 us all. This story goes beyond fast n furipus already, should put at serious kopitiam
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I believe Judge has done the best based on her knowledge.
According to the head of bailiff, civil case is treated one level down by laws if compares to criminal case.

Thank you for your support.. thumbsup.gif

QUOTE(BelaCHAN @ Nov 2 2018, 10:40 AM)
Salute to TS!
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Thank you thumbsup.gif

QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Nov 2 2018, 11:34 AM)
Erm, maybe check with the R.AGE team from The Star? Or is it The Metro.. Just check with The Star la. Maybe send them the link to this thread too. They would be happy to pick up I hope. console.gif
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Okay.. Thank you thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Nov 2 2018, 03:11 PM)
I stated that in the context of letting the Judge have the choice of setting a legal precedence.

It will be used to highlight that there are ramifications.

Prevention is better than cure.

If the judge lets this slide, we should all just stop paying roadtax and insurance, then just suka hati drive. Want to sue, sue loh. We won't sign any letters from the court, don't settle with whomever we langgar.
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I want to explain 2 scenarios:

If one person (let's call him Q, who has family and job) involves in a car accident at his fault, then he will be sued in court,
if he wants to settle by making compensation, then this case can close, no more issue.

What if Q is stubborn? He does not want to settle by making compensation, then he will be sued in court.
Then plaintiff can send Q to jail, and plaintiff will provide meals for Q to stay in jail, that is RM 35 per day.

Now imagine, since Q has family and job, do you think Q wants to go to jail?
Even if plaintiff sends Q to jail for 1 day, Q will have a prisoner record in his whole life.

This is why civil case can use this method (go to jail) to threaten Q to compromise by making compensation.

Now we come back to talk about Chen Yoon Kwee, Chen Yoon Kwee is a garbage who goes to jail very often,
he does not have job, and his Sarawak wife already ran away (Chen Yoon Kwee's mother told bailiff).
Chen Yoon Kwee is different from Q, to threaten or to scare Chen Yoon Kwee to go to jail does not work for Chen Yoon Kwee.
Maybe Chen Yoon Kwee is very happy to go to jail since he can get free meals in jail.

We still need to buy car insurance and road tax to protect us from getting into trouble unless if we want to be Chen Yoon Kwee

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post Nov 2 2018, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 2 2018, 08:06 PM)
This is very true.. I've been following this case since inception and saddened to read that TS has decided to throw in the towel. I know very well how hard this must be and respect his decision as it's a logical one. Dear TS, you have suffered enough. Thanks for pushing the legal system as hard as you have. Unfortunately, common folks like us continue to suffer such. You have earned my respect and should you decide to go public and require physical presence of supporters.. Feel free to PM me.  notworthy.gif 
As true as this is.. I'm not sure my being on the wrong side of the law and risking fines and or penalties is the best way to go about it.. Oh wai.. There are no fines and or penalties cuz the law system refuses to enforce them..  doh.gif  doh.gif
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I have to throw white towel, because to send Chen Yoon Kwee to jail will not work, because he is a scam bag who
goes to jail very often, some-more I need to pay for his meals in jail.

I can only say so far there is no civil law punishment can against garbage like Chen Yoon Kwee..

In conclusion, civil law's prison punishment can only against and to scare normal people or good people; but not for bad people like Chen Yoon Kwee..

Thank you for your support.. thumbsup.gif

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post Nov 3 2018, 05:33 AM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Nov 2 2018, 03:11 PM)
I stated that in the context of letting the Judge have the choice of setting a legal precedence.

It will be used to highlight that there are ramifications.

Prevention is better than cure.

If the judge lets this slide, we should all just stop paying roadtax and insurance, then just suka hati drive. Want to sue, sue loh. We won't sign any letters from the court, don't settle with whomever we langgar.
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Don't be misled into thinking that you can get away with not paying road tax and insurance. If you are stopped in a road block with expired road tax and insurance action will be taken against you. However the police will not take action if you report to them that so and so's car has expired road tax and insurance because the person has to be caught driving the car.

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Nov 3 2018, 05:33 AM)
Don't be misled into thinking that you can get away with not paying road tax and insurance. If you are stopped in a road block with expired road tax and insurance action will be taken against you. However the police will not take action if you report to them that so and so's car has expired road tax and insurance because the person has to be caught driving the car.
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But that is the thing isn't it.

Look at the action taken by the court.

The rule of law is just so blah. People just cannot be bothered.

Moto langgar kerete sapa bayar? Driver.

Kerete x de lesen, road tax & insuran langgar org lain apa jadi? Kaotim sendiri.

Fender bender with a vehicle that has more plaques than alphabets and digits combined? Lucky to walk away with paying for damages and just a slap from the bodyguard.

Report to police? Good luck. Ni kes kecik je, buat ape nak heboh?

You want justice? Only for a low low affordable price of RM35 per day.

Hah justice system konon.
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QUOTE(TangkapPenipu @ Nov 2 2018, 11:24 PM)
In conclusion, civil law's prison punishment can only against and to scare normal people or good people; but not for bad people like Chen Yoon Kwee..
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Sounds like the system working as it should be.
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if we cant stop the criminal, i guess we could only stop his weapon/tools
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if we cant stop the criminal, i guess we could only stop his weapon/tools
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Exactly.

Impound and crush their vehicles.

Just like rempits and their bikes.

Actually I would prefer if they were just auctioned off. Gov needs the money xD

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 2 2018, 08:06 PM)
This is very true.. I've been following this case since inception and saddened to read that TS has decided to throw in the towel. I know very well how hard this must be and respect his decision as it's a logical one. Dear TS, you have suffered enough. Thanks for pushing the legal system as hard as you have. Unfortunately, common folks like us continue to suffer such. You have earned my respect and should you decide to go public and require physical presence of supporters.. Feel free to PM me.  notworthy.gif 
As true as this is.. I'm not sure my being on the wrong side of the law and risking fines and or penalties is the best way to go about it.. Oh wai.. There are no fines and or penalties cuz the law system refuses to enforce them..  doh.gif  doh.gif
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It doesn't have to be us. I'm sure there are always other 'bad' people who will be tempted to do the sam thing when they learn the law administrator doesn't do anything to them. Imagine when all these crooked people start doing these. There will be backlash and rage from public. And when the insurance company pocket started hurting from people having to self claim, the insurance company will start to move as well.
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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Nov 3 2018, 06:09 AM)
Exactly.

Impound and crush their vehicles.

Just like rempits and their bikes.

Actually I would prefer if they were just auctioned off. Gov needs the money xD
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gov wont care for now. all these junk metal are worth less than the cost to impound or auction them. go to most taman and we could still see abandoned vehicles. some nbtd ppl would replace needed parts to make it run again. if we have the means and time it is better to just paralyse his vehicle to safe others from falling victim again.
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That is why we need Batman to carry out some things that the Law cant protect us from. Jokes aside, TS is a very great man, gone thru so much. Salute
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post Dec 24 2018, 09:01 PM

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I am so sad for TS reading this. This country really has no justice.

No wonder those road bullies and thugs behaving like kings.

And this is the thing our transport minister YB should solve. Simply tightening existing rules does not work when rempits and thugs with connections don't even scare since it is ineffective against them.
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I don't post much but I'm just jumping in here to say that it's an incredibly respectable thing you've done pursuing this case up until this point, as what happened definitely shouldn't go unpunished.

I'm sure there's a lot of learnings from what must've been a time-consuming and laborious experience - but I think there's some legs to this still. Maybe you should see if there are any media (not necessarily just the news - it could be other content sites like Cilisos/Says/World of Buzz as well) that might be willing to pick up on your story and package it in a more easily digestible format, at least for the awareness and education of Malaysians.

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