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 Accident no insurance,no road tax,no police report, WKN7729 Chen Yoon Kwee in Salak Selatan

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post Dec 26 2018, 12:21 PM

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woah after reading this. TS is the most badass + unlucky person i've ever met.
god bless you and your future TS, i support all your action taken !
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post Jan 3 2019, 11:28 AM

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Wew salute to TS for being so dedicated to see the case to the end.
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post Jan 4 2019, 10:07 AM

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Kudos to you TS,

Yes the bailiff is correct on whether to claim for compensation for damage (in civil court) or on principle or to teach a person a lesson.

By not having a road tax and insurance itself, and using the vehicle on the road, jpj or the police could act, ie summons/compound.

However we should help TS to start to lobby for the minister to amend the law to empower, that is to ban such person from driving, or to make him under parole so that he had to report to police station every week. The inconvenience to him. However if all failed, the offender need to public service ie to help authority/police in cleaning up job after an accident. However more tax payer money needed to implement those things to work.
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post Jan 4 2019, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(yslim_1 @ Jan 4 2019, 10:07 AM)
Kudos to you TS,

Yes the bailiff is correct on whether to claim for compensation for damage (in civil court) or on principle or to teach a person a lesson.

By not having a road tax and insurance itself, and using the vehicle on the road, jpj or the police could act, ie summons/compound.

However we should help TS to start to lobby for the minister to amend the law to empower, that is to ban such person from driving, or to make him under parole so that he had to report to police station every week. The inconvenience to him. However if all failed, the offender need to public service ie to help authority/police in cleaning up job after an accident. However more tax payer money needed to implement those things to work.
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Any concrete ideas as to how we can accomplish this? And I'm asking about physical means and not just online support. Do we have to write letters? etc? Because, it really is unfair to us who year in and out, keep paying Road Tax and Insurance fees.. Especially those honest enough to continue paying such annually, despite the fact that their cars are barely driven.
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post Jan 4 2019, 10:33 PM

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Malaysia law is really a joke.

TangkapPenipuThe police officer will give u the offender address if we do not know the offender address? Then we need to do the police work which is send the court letter, bring the bailiff to send the court letter, arrest the offender using your car, etc?

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post Jan 5 2019, 11:48 PM

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Hi all, I know someone been driving without valid roadtax for a few weeks.
Can I report to authority so that actions can be taken on the person or the vehicle? If so, what are the possible actions like? Confiscate the vehicle? Impose fine or just verbal warning?
If I report, will my identity kept anonymous or it will be exposed to the individual that driving without roadtax?


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post Jan 5 2019, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(Dupe5 @ Jan 5 2019, 11:48 PM)
Hi all, I know someone been driving without valid roadtax for a few weeks.
Can I report to authority so that actions can be taken on the person or the vehicle? If so, what are the possible actions like? Confiscate the vehicle? Impose fine or just verbal warning?
If I report, will my identity kept anonymous or it will be exposed to the individual that driving without roadtax?
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Honestly, can't tell for sure. Though judging from this thread, it appears to be that the authorities?? can't legally do anything unless they catch the car being driven on the road. I mean, if they walk up to the owners and or where it's parked, fella could just claim that it's not being driven on public roads or similar.
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post Jan 5 2019, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 5 2019, 11:53 PM)
Honestly, can't tell for sure. Though judging from this thread, it appears to be that the authorities?? can't legally do anything unless they catch the car being driven on the road. I mean, if they walk up to the owners and or where it's parked, fella could just claim that it's not being driven on public roads or similar.
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I know the time that the car being driven on public road somewhat precisely. Just want to check whether are there any successful cases where if I report, something other than verbal warning will happen on the individual or the vehicle.
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welcome to option 3 bro

get ninja hit him all settled

heart no pain rm300
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post Jan 6 2019, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(Dupe5 @ Jan 5 2019, 11:59 PM)
I know the time that the car being driven on public road somewhat precisely. Just want to check whether are there any successful cases where if I report, something other than verbal warning will happen on the individual or the vehicle.
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I've got no idea.. Perhaps, you make the report (anonymously if possible) first... Supply the necessary info and update as to how it goes.

QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Jan 6 2019, 12:06 AM)
welcome to option 3 bro

get ninja hit him all settled

heart no pain rm300
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Cannot la... If he was open to such.. Would have quit long ago and resorted to such measures.. Won't waste time with court process all.. laugh.gif
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post Jan 6 2019, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 6 2019, 12:40 AM)
I've got no idea.. Perhaps, you make the report (anonymously if possible) first... Supply the necessary info and update as to how it goes.
Cannot la... If he was open to such.. Would have quit long ago and resorted to such measures.. Won't waste time with court process all..  laugh.gif
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The person can still drive the vehicle because it is under his care with minimal petrol to get the vehicle running, but to renew roadtax and insurance sekali is different story as a bigger sum of money need to be forked out.
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post Jan 6 2019, 08:24 AM

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Sometimes....I think we should have a policy of scrapping cars more than 15 or 20 years. Most of these cars are worth less than insurance premium that they need to pay...
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QUOTE(Dupe5 @ Jan 5 2019, 11:48 PM)
Hi all, I know someone been driving without valid roadtax for a few weeks.
Can I report to authority so that actions can be taken on the person or the vehicle? If so, what are the possible actions like? Confiscate the vehicle? Impose fine or just verbal warning?
If I report, will my identity kept anonymous or it will be exposed to the individual that driving without roadtax?
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The individual will not know unless they bribe the authorities.

Aaaaaaand such an individual is not likely to be doing something like that yet not pay roadtax. Unless this person is a big shot with strong cable who refuses to pay roadtax for his 6.0L supercar because he feels he is protected.

Just go make a police report, one day if they are bored, they will just set up a roadblock nearby if you mention what are their frequent routes.

They will probably get a saman, not just a verbal warning.
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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Jan 6 2019, 08:24 AM)
Sometimes....I think we should have a policy of scrapping cars more than 15 or 20 years. Most of these cars are worth less than insurance premium that they need to pay...
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But some are classics wor.

Maybe a puspakom check every 1-2 years for cars as old as that?
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QUOTE(Dupe5 @ Jan 6 2019, 12:45 AM)
The person can still drive the vehicle because it is under his care with minimal petrol to get the vehicle running, but to renew roadtax and insurance sekali is different story as a bigger sum of money need to be forked out.
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Yeah...and?

QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Jan 6 2019, 08:24 AM)
Sometimes....I think we should have a policy of scrapping cars more than 15 or 20 years. Most of these cars are worth less than insurance premium that they need to pay...
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Nah, I disagree on this part. I've seen 20+ year old cars that look and sound better than some <5 year old cars.. I do agree with Viktor though.. Most cars can last 10 years easy without any major issue.. Besides, there's the whole up to 9 years loan that some will take. Finally, they can say it's fully paid. Can't be so quick to take it away from them.. So perhaps from 15 years onwards? To submit for a quick and regulated checkup.. If still roadworthy and owner still sayang? By all means, renew and keep it on the road. Else,... Ask owner to go remedy some of the noted problems and return for another check once done. If wayy too bad? then scrap lor..

QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Jan 6 2019, 01:16 PM)
But some are classics wor.

Maybe a puspakom check every 1-2 years for cars as old as that?
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This is more realistic.
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post Jan 7 2019, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Jan 6 2019, 08:24 AM)
Sometimes....I think we should have a policy of scrapping cars more than 15 or 20 years. Most of these cars are worth less than insurance premium that they need to pay...
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you are right.

the insurance cannot insure less than 5k, so what's the point owners of older cars (worth 2-3k) pay the excess premium for nothing, in that sense it's unfair to overpaid.
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QUOTE(lil_flank @ Jan 4 2019, 10:33 PM)
Malaysia law is really a joke.

TangkapPenipuThe police officer will give u the offender address if we do not know the offender address? Then we need to do the police work which is send the court letter, bring the bailiff to send the court letter, arrest the offender using your car, etc?
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Sorry for my late reply.

No, police will not give me the address.

I need to bring the original police report to go to JPJ to print out the offender's information, including offender's address.
This cost at least RM 10 to pay to JPJ.

Yes, I need to post or deliver court letter to the offender's house on my own cost.

Yes, I need to go to court to pick-up bailiff to go to offender's house with my car, and send the offender to court with my car.
If the offender is bringing a knife and sitting in side my car, then this is a big trouble for me and bailiff..

I just received my deposit back from court last month, RM 1000 - RM 8 fee = RM 992 bank-in to my bank account.
This deposit is for to request bailiff to go together with me to the offender's house
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QUOTE(Dupe5 @ Jan 5 2019, 11:48 PM)
Hi all, I know someone been driving without valid roadtax for a few weeks.
Can I report to authority so that actions can be taken on the person or the vehicle? If so, what are the possible actions like? Confiscate the vehicle? Impose fine or just verbal warning?
If I report, will my identity kept anonymous or it will be exposed to the individual that driving without roadtax?
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According to police, in order to catch this guy, car and driver must be caught together.

For example, to catch him during road block, or to catch him when he is inside the car or he is standing next to the car, man & car must present together.

If only see his car parking on the street but cannot find him, then police cannot do anything.

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QUOTE(TangkapPenipu @ Feb 19 2019, 09:44 PM)
Sorry for my late reply.

No, police will not give me the address.

I need to bring the original police report to go to JPJ to print out the offender's information, including offender's address.
This cost at least RM 10 to pay to JPJ.

Yes, I need to post or deliver court letter to the offender's house on my own cost.

Yes, I need to go to court to pick-up bailiff to go to offender's house with my car, and send the offender to court with my car.
If the offender is bringing a knife and sitting in side my car, then this is a big trouble for me and bailiff..

I just received my deposit back from court last month, RM 1000 - RM 8 fee = RM 992 bank-in to my bank account.
This deposit is for to request bailiff to go together with me to the offender's house
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Wow you nearly spent an Year on this. Besides money, how much the mental toll would be. I really thank you for your post and I learned a lot. Thank you.
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Any update on this?

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