Think about this, if one day if you are unlucky, if you hit by a mad dog that does not have car insurance,
and if this mad dog does not make a police report, how do you handle this case to claim your loss?
I am thinking to look for help from YB Lim Lip Eng
Any professionals from insurance companies, lawyers, PIAM workshop, police, senators, ahli parliament can give advice?
Story since from the first day:11 Oct 2017 -- Mad dog Chen Yoon Kwee WKN 7729 suddenly made a fast speed reversal and hit to my Persona fender. He was arrogant & asked me go ahead to make a police report.
11 Oct 2017 -- I made a police report in few hours later on the same day but Chen Yoon Kwee WKN 7729 did not make a police report
13 Dec 2017 -- Finally received Keputusan Penyiasatan Kes letter from Sergeant. Preparing to claim Chen Yoon Kwee WKN 7729's car insurance. OTKFK may apply.
19 Dec 2017 -- A PIAM workshop suggested me to check Chen Yoon Kwee's car insurance at JPJ. If no insurance then could not claim according to PIAM workshop.
20 Dec 2017 -- Went to JPJ and found out no valid insurance & no road tax from Chen Yoon Kwee WKN 7729. Panic...
21 Dec 2017 -- A lady staff from Wisma PIAM said if no insurance then I could not claim, and nothing I could do, unless if I hire a lawyer to sue Chen Yoon Kwee. Panic..
22 Dec 2017 -- I have started to post this bad experience on Mudah
25 Dec 2017 -- Informed Sergeant about no insurance & no road tax from Chen Yoon Kwee WKN 7729. I Had to prepare to take legal action since could not claim his car insurance.
26 Dec 2017 -- Found out should file this case to Magistrate's civil court, checked google map how to go to Komplek Mahkamah KL
27 Dec 2017 -- Magistrate's civil court asked me to prepare a car damage price quotation
28 Dec 2017 -- Got 2 price quotations with companies letterhead, will submit one of them to Magistrate's Civil court tomorrow
--- I try to recall what happened since from the first day...
29 Dec 2017 Friday -- Today is not a good day to visit Magistrate's Civil court office because today is year end holidays, most staffs are not working today. So Magistrate's Civil court
staff gave me a form (Form 198) to fill out and asked me to come back next Thursday (4 Jan 2018).
4 January 2018 -- Visited Magistrate's Civil court office but found out wrote down wrong claim info on Page 2 of Borang 198. Will visit Magistrate's Civil court office again soon.
7 February 2018 -- When I tried to submit my Borang 198 to E-Filling office on first floor, the staff suggested me to type rather than to use hand-writing on Borang 198, he suggested me to use
PC to create a similar format of Borang 198. Then I left E-Filling office and thinking to come back the next day.
8 February 2018 -- I submitted the first 3 pages of Borang 198 to E-Filling office, paid RM 20 as processing fee. The E-Filling staff said, within 3 days, they email me info and I need to send this
info to the defendant. I have 2 options either to deliver by hand by myself, and I will need to get defendant's signature to prove that he receives the letter; second option is I
can send by AR registered post (yellow card).
9 February 2018 -- I received email from the court, this letter was exactly the same 3 pages of my Borang 198 that I had submitted yesterday. The only difference thing was that it had court
stamps on 2 pages. The bicara date is 9.00am on 19 March 2018. I went to post office and sent it to the defendant by AR registered, this AR registered cost me RM 3.10.
16 February 2018 -- After I checked Pos Laju website, I noticed Chen Yoon Kwee had received my letter at 7.55pm on 15 Feb 2018, that was Chinese New Year Eve dinner time.
23 February 2018 -- Post Office sent me back AR registered mail card with a recipient's signature on it.
27 February 2018 -- Filled out 135 Form (1 page) from Magistrate's Civil court office. Magistrate's Civil court office assigned the court room number during judgment day. The purpose of 135 form
is to confirm and verify AR registered has been received by the defendant. Need to photostat one copy of AR registered.
27 February 2018 -- Did a verification (sumpah) for AR registered at Pejabat Ketua Pendafter on 1st floor. Paid RM 4.00
27 February 2018 -- Submitted 3 documents: (1) 135 Form, (2) RM 4 receipt of sumpah from Pejabat Ketua Pendafter, (3) photostat copy of AR registered to E-Filling office on 1st floor.
Paid RM 8.00. Everything is done on my part. Now just waiting for the judgment day on 19 March 2018.
19 March 2018 -- Attended the first hearing in court. Defendant Chen Yoon Kwee did not show up. The Judge asked me to go to Chen Yoon Kwee's house to get his signature due to AR
registered was not signed by Chen Yoon Kwee. 2nd hearing is scheduled on 13 April 2018.
24 March 2018 at 12.20pm -- Went to Chen Yoon Kwee's house to deliver #198 Form and to get his signature. Chen Yoon Kwee appeared but he refused to sign, he pretended to be Chen Yoon
Kwee's twin brother namely Chen Yoon "Keong". I left #198 Form inside the grill gate of his house. I recorded a 6 minutes video as proof of #198 form delivery to Chen Yoon
Kwee.
6 April 2018 -- I went to Magistrate Civil Court office this morning, I wanted to use 4 pictures (which I captured Chen Yoon Kwee pictures on 24 March 2018) to fill out #135 Form (to verify
proof of delivery for #198 Form), but unfortunately I was not allowed to use pictures as proof of delivery to fill out #135 Form.
13 April 2018 -- Attended the 2nd hearing. Chen Yoon Kwee did not show-up as expected. Photos were accepted by the Judge as proof of delivery of the writ even Chen Yoon Kwee did not sign.
I had to fill out #135 form and did a sumpah, fee was RM 10. I will need to come back for the 3rd hearing with a car repair receipt. The 3rd hearing is scheduled on 11 May 2018.
17 May 2018 -- The 3rd hearing was postponed to 17 May 2018. Submitted original car repair receipt to the Judge. Judge gave 202 form (Judgment) to fill out, then submitted 202 form to E-filing
office, then paid RM 20 to cash deposit machine. E-filling office staff said I will receive 202 form with a court stamp on it by email in 3 working days.
22 May 2018 -- Received 202 form (Judgment letter) in my email.
25 May 2018 -- Sent 202 form by A.R. registered mail to Chen Yoon Kwee. This A.R. registered mail cost me RM 3.10. Requested Chen Yoon Kwee to bank-in compensation before 15 June 2018.
26 May 2018 -- Delivered 202 form (Judgment letter) to Chen Yoon Kwee's house by myself. Nobody showed up in Chen Yoon Kwee's house, I put 202 form in letter box.
A rude woman sitting outside of Chen Yoon Kwee's house was screaming and asking me not to put letter in the letter box. She called me Fuxker.
I met Chen Yoon Kwee's neighbor, his neighbor told me Chen Yoon Kwee's father has 4 sons, Chen Yoon Kwee is a twin. Chen Yoon Kwee's eldest brother is Ah Long and he has
gun, active in Kuchai Lama area.
7 June 2018 -- Received A.R. registered mail back with 202 form unopened in the envelope, Chen Yoon Kwee did not sign, post office put a stamp on it and stated "moved out".
19 June 2018 -- Checked my bank account balance, no compensation was made by Chen Yoon Kwee.
27 June 2018 -- Went to Magistrate court office, submitted these 3 documents:
(1) 202 form (Judgment letter),
(2) returned of A.R. registered mail,
(3) one picture to prove proof of delivery of 202 form in front of Chen Yoon Kwee's house dated 26 May 2018.
Magistrate court office's staff gave 208 form for me to fill out. Later went to E-Filing office to proceed form 208, paid RM 20.
Now waiting for court to email 208 form to my email account. 208 form is a last reminder letter before the court to issue warrant.
2 June 2018 -- Used extraction code to download 208 form online from https:''ecourt.kehakiman.gov.my
A court hearing is scheduled on 26 July 2018 on 208 form.
6 June 2018 -- Sent 208 form to Chen Yoon Kwee by A.R. Registered mail
7 June 2018 -- Delivered 208 form to Chen Yoon Kwee's house by myself. Put 208 form into letter box. This was the third time I went to his house to deliver court's letters.
26 July 2018 -- Attended court hearing. Photo and 2 mins video recorded on 7 July were not accepted by the judge as proof of delivery for 208 form to Chen Yoon Kwee.
I talked to Judge, for my own safety, I could not go to Chen Yoon Kwee's house anymore.
The judge asked me to send one more AR registered mail. The next hearing is scheduled on 16 August 2018.
26 July 2018 -- I sent one more AR registered mail to Chen Yoon Kwee, Borang 208 was enclosed.
16 August 2018 -- Attended court hearing. I talked to Judge about the issues of how to send 208 Form to Chen Yoon's house: (1) I delivered 2 copies of 208 Form to Chen Yoon Kwee's house
on 7 July 2018, I had pictures to prove Chen Yoon Kwee was at home at that time. (2) One AR registered that I sent on 6 July 2018 came back to me with "Tidak dituntut"
(recipient did not collect) (3) I have not received the second AR registered from post office that I sent on 26 July 2018. Judge gave me a 135 Form for sumpah(Affidavit)
about the proof of delivery of 208 Form. Judge asked me to wait for 2nd AR registered that I sent on 26 July2018. Next court hearing is scheduled on 21 September 2018.
14 September 2018 -- I went to post office to pick-up my 2nd AR registered mail that I sent on 26 July 2018 because postman did not send me any notification.
This AR Registered mail has a stamp stated “Pindah" (Moved).
17 September 2018 -- I went to Chen Yoon Kwee's house at around 4.00pm to deliver one more 208 Form, I put 208 Form to his letter box. I did not see his Iswara this time, but I saw 2
motorcycles in side his house. A video was recorded.
21 September 2018 -- Attended court hearing. The Judge gave me 172 Form to proceed Warrant Tangkap (arrest) to against Chen Yoon Kwee. I was required to pay another RM 10 to re-do
my affidavit for my new case number.
25 September 2018 -- Went to court's e-filing office to submit 172 Form and paid RM 40. I need to wait for the email from court before I can proceed warrant tangkap.
28 September 2018 -- Received 172 Form via email from e-court, went to bailiff's office but I was told I had to wait for another demand letter for RM 1000 deposit from my email.
1 October 2018 -- Received surat perlaksanaan (letter of execution order) via email from e-court. I need to arrange RM 1000 bank draft + RM 28 for Bailiff to go to Chen Yoon Kwee's house.
3 October 2018 -- Went to court to deposit RM 1000 bank draft (security deposit for bailiff) + cash RM 8 (fee for making deposit to court) + cash RM 20 (execution fee). Now waiting for email
from bailiff to inform me when to go to Chen Yoon Kwee's house.
29 October 2018 -- Went to chen Yoon Kwee's house with a bailiff. I had to go to court to pick-up bailiff, then later on I had to send bailiff back to court. Bailiff was told by Chen Yoon kwee's
mother that Chen Yoon Kwee was in Kajang jail.
31 October 2018 -- Went to court to see judge, judge asked me if I want to continue this case, I said yes, continue. Later I called Kajaing jail, Kajang jail confirmed Chen Yoon Kwee was in
Kajang jail since 4 days ago. Chen Yoon Kwee will release from jail in June 2019.
This post has been edited by TangkapPenipu: Oct 31 2018, 09:23 PM