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post Sep 8 2018, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 8 2018, 01:27 PM)
Nobody wins if crap becomes taxi 2.0.

There are a few things you can do:
1. If you do not turned on AA, you can reject the jobs.
2. If you accept the jobs by accident, cancel them.
3. Choose a route to bypass toll. Tell the riders that "ETAa 20 min". If they cannot wait they will cancel the rides.
4. Finally, lu x suke lu keluar.

BTW, if you didn't choose crap over Uber, the latter could still be around. Blame yourself for killing Uber and making crap cocky. I was an Uber driver right until it ceased operation.

I am more concerned with the new rules governing e-hailing, such as Puspakom vehicle check. How often do you get a job which requires you to drive past a toll? When I was a full time driver (now part time), I got only 1-2 such jobs every month.
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you've missed the point.
the point was you doing things like this is the same as those drivers dunt collect toll from their pax after a trip. then those pax will ask why last time no need pay toll one to the next driver.

taxi will give charity toll discount to Rider? when Uber was around I also never ever take a job that requires going thru toll. even if Rider say they'll pay the toll the risk is too high they'll cxl after you've gone thru.



btw.. if you drive near border areas with toll like Sunway or empire Damansara you'll be getting jobs that require going thru toll much more often then twice a month.

please.. stop giving discounts to riders for the sake of other drivers.

This post has been edited by moosekaka: Sep 8 2018, 01:56 PM
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post Sep 9 2018, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(chrnosx @ Sep 8 2018, 10:39 PM)
So I waited 4 hours in the airport then get booking to Sepang. Wth, RM 35 over 4 hours. I can get that in 20 mins in Klang Valley. I can't even get out of KLIA.. I was so mad, I wrote nasty email to Grab.

Question, can we cancel or skip or booking when it's your turn? If we do that do we end up at the back of the queue again?
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whats there to write about...lol.

Yes, if you cancel on your side you will go back to the end of the Q. you can skip the first one (most now say the SECOND one) ping before you must accept the next one, otherwise also go back to the end of the Q.

BTW....dont ever listen to anyone trying to rationalize with you about Queing in the airport. Its just not wise to take KLIA jobs unless you need to be nearby there later or you live nearby.

On top of the stupid long Q system, be aware that some ppl are playing unfair with Q system. meaning they are cutting Q.

This post has been edited by moosekaka: Sep 9 2018, 12:25 AM
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post Sep 10 2018, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(S3phiroth @ Sep 10 2018, 03:28 PM)
Go to poor man territories to repair your DR. Lesser trips (and tips) compare to rich man territories but why would u care if u r doing HG?
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I'm from PJ. when I stuck to driving around PJ my Dr always high. when I start going out to other places then my Dr start having issues.
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post Sep 12 2018, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(colemi @ Sep 12 2018, 11:05 AM)
I received PUP on AA for 6Km and 8KM lol i think i am the only driver at the area at that time?
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which area
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post Sep 12 2018, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(S3phiroth @ Sep 12 2018, 08:16 PM)
He pay nothing once he reports to crap that the driver completed the job without him or just files a dispute with bank.
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driver and rider have gps info on their app. if they want to argue or dispute that way, Grab can always check back the data. better still if driver smart and snapped photo or have dashcam. Dont think Grab will blindly take rider words as they lose out on RM100 plus in commision for this case.

for the case of that pavilion fake booking...unless they are like those Indo level GPS spoofers..

This post has been edited by moosekaka: Sep 12 2018, 10:21 PM
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post Sep 12 2018, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(lznce2679 @ Sep 12 2018, 07:16 PM)
for me..anywhere via grabpay above rm50 is very risky..
later owner of card does not recognize booking..
bye2 to time+fuel+toll+blood+sweat..

max i hav taken was rm170 to kuala sgor by cash..
i even ask da rider to put rm100 as depo juz to make sure..
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this is totally backwards....so you prefer big fare jobs in CASH?? this is 2018 and still cash is king mentality prevails in this part of the world. rclxub.gif
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post Sep 13 2018, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(S3phiroth @ Sep 12 2018, 11:13 PM)
Of course crap will check the gps data therefore for sure crab will conclude that the driver is cheating, right? That is exactly the purpose of the rider. This guy dont really want to go to the place he booked.  He just want to earn the point without spending a dime and use it before crap reverts back the point.

Will crap lose the commission? Well that depend on whether they want to give the commission back to the driver or not but i doubt so. They got every reason not to return the commission since the driver are the one who broke the rule.

It is better lose a driver rather than losing rm100++. Afterall, we dont really worth that much for them.
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QUOTE(chrnosx @ Sep 13 2018, 12:38 AM)
Yeah, I am normal driver. There were bad days in the beginning, just analyse and get over it. Use what u have and make it work!

Here is a tip, if grab takes your commission, it's an acknowledgement that you done your job. If they pull credit from you, you can counter sue for fraud because you paid for a service. Besides, the chat is a good indication that you were doing as per your customer or clients instructions. If customer say drop here, u die die drop another place? If this happen to me, I will confirm buta buta get free RM 600. With a chat and this much proof, what else do you need or can dispute?

I used it many times in my disputes, u take commission and u don't return means I did my part and if u don't honour yours, you have commit fraud. Usually crap just gives.
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This con also huge risk on rider if he cant succesfully chargeback the CC.


Since it was Grabpay, they'll be a third party CC involved with Grab and rider trying to charge back will be under scrutiny from Both. Driver may or may not be in trouble with Grab but you can be sure Grab will be going after rider with Credit card company to dispute the chargeback.

This post has been edited by moosekaka: Sep 13 2018, 01:13 AM
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post Sep 13 2018, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(S3phiroth @ Sep 13 2018, 02:00 PM)
Allocate 25-35% of gross fare for petrol and maintenance is a good educated guess.

Anyway u still doing very good consider that u have 6 weeks experience only. Personally i believe as long as u hit the ahboy kpi, which is at least rm20 per hour net after all cost, then u r on the right side of bell curve, or simply put, u r beyond average.

Btw sorry for my disbelieve early. I just smell things doesnt make sense when u said u made rm2500 net in just 84 hours. I guess i was just over sensitive with numbers. Haha...

Okok no more annoying number analysis. tongue.gif
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25% of gross fare for petrol and maintenance is already on the high side, 35% is already grossly high. My axia consistently average 11% of gross fare for petrol alone. over 1.5 years driving. I doubt the maintenance will equal 15% of gross fare.
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post Sep 13 2018, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(S3phiroth @ Sep 13 2018, 04:02 PM)
U axia mah, he is using hybrid leh...

Let's assume 10% for your axia, then your petrol n maintenance cost is about 21% of fare. So 25%-35% is quite reasonable for higher end car, right? Or i am missing something here?
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10% of fare for maintenance is high for me.. especially when you consider most cars for e-hailing will be under 7 years, at least by the regulations. for hybrid cars if you are thinking about the battery, warranty is 7 years and above. otherwise maintenance cost is exactly same if not lower then normal car.

for those who really clock high mileage, the most regular maintenance item is changing engine oil. if you learn to change your own oil, for rm200 you can get a very good oil n filter. that's 2sen per km if you change every 10k.

This post has been edited by moosekaka: Sep 13 2018, 04:22 PM
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post Sep 13 2018, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(S3phiroth @ Sep 13 2018, 04:44 PM)
Did u include wear&tear for parts since these things have its design lifespan? Say, tires, brake, bearings, absorber, bla bla bla...these parts may not need to be changed as often as regular maintenance but they will eventually break, one day or another.

Of course we dont need a very accurate number. It is just like doing a product costing estimation, no need to be very accurate but just close enough.
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tires brakes absorbers are too irregular n dependent on driving style to factor into one person costing. if you're running a fleet of cars then yes. but let's take tires... you can safely run a set 50k...rm600 to rm800 per set over 50k... that's 1 to 2 sen.per km. brake pads are another very cheap and easily diy type job.. but won't cost over 200 bucks(closer to rm100 for basic car). and absorbers and bearings aren't changed at the end of design life.. they are changed when they go bad which could be the life of the car. or after a year. depends on your luck and driving style conditions.

in fact I dare say the biggest recurring cost would be insurance annually.

This post has been edited by moosekaka: Sep 13 2018, 05:26 PM
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post Sep 16 2018, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(squallz05 @ Sep 16 2018, 06:16 PM)
Subang Jaya and bandar sunway. I guess because since they improve the AA feature and drivers clear the demand so fast.
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many ppl camped and hiding there last time since got many Hidden spots n always got bilis demand. now cannot Cherry pick anymore.

This post has been edited by moosekaka: Sep 16 2018, 09:18 PM
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post Sep 16 2018, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Sep 16 2018, 08:20 PM)
I want to ask,

I am a new grab driver for less then a week

When I turn on auto accept and do about 15 jobs this morning, none of the jobs got deduct any commission. Meaning they never deduct 25% or 20% commission.
I don't understand and what happened ?

But when I turn off the auto accept and I do couple of jobs, I got deducted 25% commission from grab !

So what's going on ?
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new driver get free one week no commission.. but I guess must be on AA to enjoy this benefit.
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post Sep 16 2018, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(frags @ Sep 16 2018, 09:31 PM)
Hey all. New Grab Driver reporting in. Or as some people call it... fresh meat. Or slave to the crap god. Resigned from my job and trying to generate enough income from Grab just to cover my monthly obligations. I must say it's quite thrilling for a beginner.

Just a quick question about something that someone touched upon:

Credit. Must have RM10 minimum to get jobs? What happens when it's below RM10?

And how do you top this up. I only see an option to transfer from Grab Wallet. And Grab Wallet can transfer to my bank. Don't see any option that I know of from the Grab Driver app. Can someone tell me how do I do this? Thank you.
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QUOTE(S3phiroth @ Sep 16 2018, 10:02 PM)
The crappy driver app will notify u when your credit is below rm10.

u can top up using pin by buying credit pin from petronas station or buy online from an epay app.
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you dunt need the epay app. just use their website. this should be pinned on the FAQ.

https://www.e-pay.com.my/shop/category/7/ot...-grab-tmgo-njoi
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post Sep 17 2018, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Ron2828 @ Sep 17 2018, 07:39 AM)
1)Some of them use mod apps.they are able to queue at airport way earlier before they are physically there

2)Suitable for retiree.I found out during my chat with them while eating/membangau there.They are not able to drive around like us for a few hours so they just target airport trip back and forth + set destination to go home.To them,65+65+20/30(MD home trip) is a decent daily income
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retiree no energy to drive around ok ... but we have 20 n 30 something year old ppl literally rotting at KLIA q too.
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post Sep 24 2018, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(ys2233 @ Sep 24 2018, 04:42 PM)
This crappy company is a victim of its own carelessness in revealing destination and fare as it's main feature to attract drivers. By doing so, cherry picking has now become a big headache which they a finding ways to overcome.

Btw do you realise that we have also many sohai drivers? This morning I booked a trip for an OKU with a wheelchair and he has the cheek to advise me to book a 6S cos of the wheelchair. Hope he get suspended by making his own policies.
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look like we have a gold finger anak garam grab driver here who's a cheapskate to boot.
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post Sep 25 2018, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(forever1979 @ Sep 25 2018, 04:45 PM)
crap not only bully drivers but riders

this morning 715am, a ping from cheras to jalan ampang (11km, high fare as RM32), completed in 30mins..rider said okay because company pay. she wanted to buy another app, pick n go but no drivers....
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if there werent any drivers on pick n go when she need it that time, what does that tell you? same thing for those that say teksi fare cheaper during peak hour. supply and demand. higher price means more drivers will online to go pickup.
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post Sep 29 2018, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 29 2018, 05:37 PM)
The lock has effect on rider especially last week on rainy day, surge over 150-200% easily and rider still wait for u. As we all know rainy day is the worst time to drive, might as well go enjoy dinner and relax.

Got one rider come in on weekdays and said lately very hard to get car, 15-30min is a norm, rainy days need to wait 1 hr laugh.gif

And also the promise of short distance pick up is kinda bullshit, i sometimes kena 3-4km and force to pick up.

U think full timer can tahan by AA all the way meh, so strict on those rules & regulation, but cancellation by rider still nothing harsh penalty to be seen.
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ohhh deswai lah that evening last week raining whole day.... I get RM50 per hr heheheh

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post Oct 1 2018, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ron2828 @ Oct 1 2018, 10:01 AM)
Military camp i also kena once....batu kentonmen near jalan ipoh.have to drive 2-3km further after leave IC at guardhouse
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yesterday I drop off nice malay girl inside Kementah...have to off main headlamp when going thru armed M-16 soldier guards.. but they just waved us thru.. this was 1130pm. Maybe they recognize her? no having to get down or show IC/driving lesen etc. But she did ask me to off my Grablight before going in. Lol. she sat at the back btw.

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post Oct 1 2018, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(hawk1lo @ Oct 1 2018, 02:54 PM)
lol what principle u mean, cant go down to register?
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yes. die die will not go down to register to pickup or Dropoff. all those condos that have these policies, riders will know have to wait at guardhouse.
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post Oct 1 2018, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(ys2233 @ Oct 1 2018, 03:51 PM)
It's amazing to know that there are still drivers interested to do klia trips which to the crappy company is still the money spinner. Cos no need to pay incentives (nett profit for every trip) + collecting 25% comm for return trip.

What's left for the driver? No demand surcharge. At best, rm130 gross for round trip of average 140km + min 3hrs required. At worst, it's only rm90+7 hrs! Worth it meh?
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more worth then grabshare

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