With China car brands offering many features at a much cheaper price + cash rebates, expect Bermaz to play the game of cash rebates as well. Just wait and see

it has been on torsion beam since 2019 and imagine the price back then when it was RM149k+ with no specifications (kosong) literally.

this is where we called BERMAZ a cheating dishonest company

impossible to be CKD however CBU from Thailand might be possible

yeah, Bermaz has just joined in the price war of 2025 with a 2019 model but the Mazda3 Rahmah is still quite a bad proposition if compared with the alternatives. Both the VIOS and CITY is cheaper and has better utility and better fuel consumption figures. just look at its power to weight ratio.

the 1.5 felt underpowered with the 16's, can only imagine how much more sluggish it is going to be with the 18's. imagine a weekend drive up to Genting with your buddies who are in Civic/Altis and when they finished dinner, you have just arrived

the Mazda3 has been on torsion beam since 2019 - it was controversial back then but Mazda had to sacrifice that for the sake of cost controlling. Vios/City is definitely the better (smarter) choice but sometimes pride/ego speaks louder - college kids / fresh grads would rather starved to death then to die in satiety caught in poor man's clothes.

expect a price cut also for the 2.0H/2.0H+ and will not be surprised if there's a RM10k discount to both of those variant.

That's on performance, shouldn't build quality be considered as well? I have a City 2019 and Mazda 3 2023, the quality of the interior totally different.

Oh I see, Mazda 3 no selling point just like last time Nissan Sylphy, some more no 2nd hand value and hard to resell

it depends on what the buyer is looking for and what he/she is willing to sacrifice for that.

the Mazda3 Rahmah is definitely going to have better build quality but slowpoke of a car with bad fuel consumption. both the Vios/City will have an acceptable build quality but with commendable fuel consumption rate, superb utility and good power to weight ratio.

i know this very well because i used to have the 4th-Gen 1.5 Mazda3 and now the Ignite so i can tell, the Mazda3 Rahmah is going to sluggish with those 18's. the 1.5 pulling those extra weight on the 18's, pfft - good luck.

i have the Vios (VC100) and also the HR-V (RS) and while both of them doesn't have the interior "plushness" of the Mazda3, i'd rather have the necessary power to pull my own weight rather than have the engine rev to 5k and still struggle to find power.

There is a point for Bermaz because there will be plenty of foolish people who will spent RM120k to get this because of the thought that "woah, this car used to be RM150k leh, it's RM120k now". Not to mention the idea of them thinking they bought a "premium car" because of what Bermaz did with the brand previously. They were successful but decided to fold now - all those effort, wasted in just one night.

I don't know where Bermaz is taking Mazda to here in Malaysia but all i know is that they are basically dragging the brand across the mud with this move. Mazdas are supposed to be a fun and engaging car to drive but when you do not have enough power to the car, these Mazda3 Rahmah owners will soon find that Mazdas are overrated because they weren't given the best representation of what Mazda can be.

it's just tarnishing.

i agree that 1.5 Mazda 3 will feel underpowered. For my experience with 2.0 Mazda 3, i feel that it is good enough, definitely more power to overtake cars compared to my city, and i do not mind torsion beam or what not. It is better than city with a soft suspension with higher chance of scratching the bottom whenever going through a speed hump (my experience). Quite happy with my mazda 3 in short.

This post has been edited by gundamsp01: Jun 9 2025, 10:49 AM

basically they drove Altis or Civic turbo, other drive Myvi 1.5

that is given

as for the suspension, yeah - the torsion beam set up was a non issue to me back in 2019 and is still not an issue to me now. people who said they can "feel the difference" are lying unless they tracked the car. the difference between a multi-link and a torsion beam (if any) on daily drive is infinitesimal.

my CX-30 has the same set up but is noticeably more comfortable - so i'd take that if i need to ferry passengers behind but if it's just me or with one front passenger, Mazda3 all the way.

the HRV is reserved for my parents.

either way, Mazda did a damn good job tweaking that torsion beam.

in real world, not all will discuss much about technical aspect of the car.

A Mazda 3 will be a Mazda 3, be it a 1.5 NA

Janji sendiri happy.

i come from a multilink civic FE to ignite.

almost 1 year already, i dont even remember the 3 is on a torsion beam.

May I know the fuel consumption on 1.5 vs 2.0 for city drive? I drive to work daily and will be jam 2 hours per day. I only occasionally to highway for trip.
Currently im driving saga vvt, how their fuel consumption compared with saga?

yeap, that is true and melancholic at the same time.

for a car like the Mazda3, i somehow feel like it needs to be understood because it's not just like some other mass produced cars. from its conception to production - so many thoughts, ideas and philosophies went into making the Mazda3 what it is and i feel drivers should know about it. every inch about it has a purpose, has a function and has a story behind it and that is what makes it special.

this is what made me like Mazda as a car company, it's not just the car they made but also what they stood for.

i feel like dealers (eg: Bermaz) as their partners should also work towards fulfilling that objective. i respected Bermaz for standing strong back then when they refused to engage in price wars and insisting on offering what they think is best to reflect Mazda for what it is despite being significantly more expensive than its competitors but they have since lose ground.

they have tried so hard over the years to built Mazda here in Malaysia to be on a different route and just literally burn all of those effort to ashes. to me, it just removed the identity of the Mazda3 from the Mazda3.



This post has been edited by shaniandras2787: Jun 9 2025, 11:48 AM

i could squeeze about 430km ~ 450km from a full tank in the 1.5, very light footed, city drive with the usual office crawl. highway probably gets you better figures. as for the 2.0, i don't see a lot of difference in the range.

i suspect a reduction of probably 10km ~ 20km from a full tank due to the heavier 18" on the Mazda3 Rahmah. it's going to take more effort just to move those extra weight from standstill traffic.

roughly 10km/l or 11km/l there.

Those of us here in the forums are more or less petrol heads or at least care about the nuts and bolts, will not respond to a 1.5L NA on a C-segment platform.

But, there are 10 times more people than us like Auntie, Jie Jie, ladies who really don't poke their right foot hard on the pedal. These are the targets of the Mazda 3 Rahmah. I can think of my sister who bought her Vios just last year and she would've jumped at this version of Mazda 3. My cubemate who is a lady is also going to take a look. Its a cute car at a cute price.

This is the same as Corolla Cross - People say its small, complaint the engine is lacklustre, complain against the CVT whatever but where I live, it outsells everything except for cheap chinese 2024 cars. The ownership demographics is wide, from young to old, man to woman, family to single, everyone.

I suspect this will be the same. Same as previous gen Nissan Almera. Same as the 2.0 CX-5 2024 KF. As long as its Japanese, reliable, not too fussy, has some extra features like safety, people will jump on it.

Ultimately, this is the same situation back then when Proton launched Exora MPV but using Campro CPS 1.6L NA engine. 125hp 150Nm torque to handle the MPV sizes, many of the potential eye sceptical and voice out this MPV won't be able to climb Genting. But it can and on the road for many years b4 launch newer with 1.6T.

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Jun 9 2025, 01:47 PM

"cannot naik genting" is a joke for ppl who never learn of transmission punya gear ratio

just placed a booking

sales ask “sedan or hatchback?”

just put there anything. haha

way back in 2019, this was my dream car. watch every review read every article. “torsion beam in mazda is different. g vectoring. jinbai ittai”

2020 happen. got baby got family. went for corolla cross. and think “maybe someday when my income is solid enough. can go for mazda 3”

boom. mazda 3 rahmah. 121k in sabah. 1.5L? non issue. cepat2 pun pain borneo belum siap.

if myvi 1.5 pun can cucuk land cruiser in kundasang

mazda 3 1.5 pun blh ba kalau kau