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post Sep 17 2018, 12:19 PM

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Hi Do you encounter this. I drove my GLC 200 for 2 months and the little rubber attached to the oil cover putus. I complained to SA, he told me common and most of the owner just cut the little rubber. I drove my Vios for more than 14 years, the rubber never putus. Hahahaha
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QUOTE(bat11 @ Sep 17 2018, 12:19 PM)
Hi Do you encounter this. I drove my GLC 200 for 2 months and the little rubber attached to the oil cover putus. I complained to SA, he told me common and most of the owner just cut the little rubber. I drove my Vios for more than 14 years, the rubber never putus. Hahahaha
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You asked the Sa to cut his kukujiao la! laugh.gif Mine was broken in 9 months and I got it replaced under warranty! I had said before, now Mercedes car's quality is like proton standard! It's sad but true! Now you call up MBM, they will pusing u to their dealers! Getting lansee Liao MBM coz their cars are selling like hot cakes! They should ask Auto Bavaria when BMW was at its prime! Look at them now!
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Well we have a BMW thread. Im opening this thread as a dedication to the 3 pointed star badge, Mercedes-Benz.

As we all know, the founder of Mercedes-Benz, Karl Benz is one of the founding fathers of the internal combustion engine. Having said that, Mercedes-Benz founding dates back to 1871. and MB has been at the forefront of many new automobile technologies. Therefore i see this thread as a fitting tribute to one of the greatest car companies in the world.

Below is a short history lesson on MB.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes_Benz

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Mercedes-Benz (sometimes shortened to just Mercedes, \"Benz\" or \"Merc\") is a German brand name of automobiles, buses, coaches, and trucks created for Daimler-Benz AG and now owned by DaimlerChrysler AG. The Daimler-Benz company originated on June 28, 1926 when two companies, Benz & Cie. and Daimler Motoren Gesellschaft (DMG), the inventors of the automobile, merged. Karl Benz is credited as the inventor of the first 'true' automobile (patented in 1886) since Daimler's was a horse carriage with an engine, whereas Benz' had a chassis designed from scratch.

Established in 1871, Benz & Cie. was the most important of several companies founded by Karl Benz. DMG was founded by Gottlieb Daimler and his partner Wilhelm Maybach in 1890, but Daimler died in 1900 and Maybach left DMG in 1907, by which time the two companies were rivals. In 1924, owing to economic necessity after World War One, they entered into an \"Agreement of Mutual Interest\" (valid until the year 2000), however, this initial agreement still allowed each company to manufacture and sell their products under their original brand names. It was only after the 1926 official merger, that the brand Mercedes-Benz was created and used.

Mercedes-Benz is the brand name applied to the models of one of the premier automotive manufacturers in the world and, because of its tie to Karl Benz, it is also the name of the world's oldest continuously produced automobile line. In 1926 when the new company, Daimler-Benz was established through merger, a new logo also was created that would include a symbol for each and integrate the names of the two former companies. A three-pointed star had been designed by Gottlieb Daimler, to show the ability of his motors for land, air, and sea use. This star first appeared on a DMG model in 1909, so it was chosen for the new logo. However the brand name Daimler had been licensed for use on other automobiles (in France and the United Kingdom), so the name of its seminal Mercedes model was chosen for the DMG portion of the logo. The traditional laurel symbol of Karl Benz was added along with his name to complete the new logo. The logo with a plain ring, as seen today, was not used until 1937.

Mercedes-Benz automobiles have introduced - both in the past and present - the majority of technological and safety features (see details below). It was in 1998, when Daimler-Benz and Chrysler agreed to combine their businesses - known as the \"merger of equals\", that a new entity, DaimlerChrysler AG was created.

History

The origins of the Daimler-Benz company founded through a merger in 1926 date back to the mid-1880s, when Gottlieb Daimler (1834-1900) working with Wilhelm Maybach (1846-1929), and Karl Benz (1844-1929) independently invented the internal combustion engine-powered automobile, in southwestern Germany. Although they were merely sixty miles apart, these pioneers were unaware of each other's early work.

Karl Benz had his shop in Mannheim and invented the world's first true automobile powered by an internal combustion engine in 1885. It had three wheels. He was granted a patent for his automobile, dated January 29, 1886, for what he called the \"Benz Patent Motorwagen\". Among many inventions, Benz patented his first engine in 1879 and included in his 'integral' design for the Motorwagen patent application, a high-speed single-cylinder four-stroke engine of his own design.

In 1885, Gottlieb Daimler and design partner Wilhelm Maybach, working in Cannstatt, Stuttgart, were granted a patent dated August 29, 1885 for what is generally recognized as the prototype of the modern gas engine, that they named the \"grandfather clock engine\".

On March 8, 1886, Daimler purchased a stagecoach made by Wilhelm Wimpff & Sohn and he and Maybach adapted it to hold this engine, thereby creating a four-wheeled carriage propelled by an engine, as many had before them. The only distinction about this carriage was that it carried an internal combustion engine. None of many similar attempts to adapt carts, boats, or carriages, in many countries, were propelled by this type of engine. On the official history pages of the Mercedes-Benz Internet site it is referred to as \"a carriage - without a drawbar but with the conventional drawbar steering. A carriage without horses...\" Daimler and Maybach later purposely built, from scratch, the first four-stroke engine powered automobile with four wheels in 1889. They founded DMG in 1890 and sold their first automobile in 1892.

Stationary engines were his major business and he invented many improvements to them and their application, but Karl Benz continued to refine his Motorwagen through several models and sold his first automobile in 1888. He built his first four-wheeled model in 1891. Benz & Cie, the company started by the inventor, became not only the world's first, but also largest manufacturer of automobiles by 1900.

In 1899, DMG automobiles built at Untert�rkheim (a city district of Stuttgart) were raced successfully by Emil Jellinek (1853-1918), an automobile enthusiast and dealer. He had the name of his daughter, Mercedes, painted on the automobiles for good luck. Wanting faster race cars, it was Jellinek who spurred the development of the seminal 1900 DMG model that would be the first of the DMG Mercedes series, bearing the name of his daughter.

After suggesting some design specifications, he promised to purchase thirty-six of the new DMG model if Maybach would name the new 35 hp engine contained in it the Daimler-Mercedes engine. A contract of five hundred and fifty thousand marks was made for these new models. Within weeks he contracted for thirty-six of another DMG model with 8 hp engines. He was granted an exclusive concession to sell the new DMG automobiles in Austria-Hungary, France, Belgium, and USA.

That new model later would be named \"Mercedes 35 hp\" and it was a very important advance in automobile design. The contract called for delivery of the first automobile to Jellinek in the Fall, but it did not reach him until December 22, 1900. He became obsessed with the name Mercedes and even had his name changed to Jellinek-Mercedes. Jellinek was invited to sit on the DMG board of directors, which he did from 1901 until 1909, when he retired from automotive activities in favor of diplomatic appointments.

The name change also was helpful in preventing legal troubles, because after the death of Daimler, DMG had sold exclusive rights to the name, Daimler, and technical concepts to companies abroad. As a result, luxury automobiles branded Daimler were, and still are, built in England. A fire that gutted the old Steinway piano factory in New York, which had been converted to produce the new Mercedes models, cut short the dream of American production.

the rival companies of Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaft (DMG) and Benz & Cie. started to cooperate in 1924, due to necessity arising from a troubled German economy after World War I, and finally merged in 1926 to become Daimler-Benz AG, which produced Mercedes-Benz automobiles and trucks. The merger agreement established that the two companies were required to remain together until 2000. While focusing on land vehicles, Mercedes-Benz also built engines to power boats and airplanes (military and civil), and even Zeppelins. Karl Benz died in 1929.

Although the brand is most famous for limousine models, a siginificant number of notable sports cars have also been produced. For example, the early supercharged SSK developed by Ferdinand Porsche. Another distinctive model was the iconic 300SL Gullwing of 1954; that was suggested by Max Hoffman, explicitly for the USA market, and introduced at the New York Autombile Show.

Mercedes-Benz has also produced higher volume, less expensive cars. Interestingly, the prototypes of the Volkswagen were built and tested in Stuttgart, in cooperation with Porsche. Before that, Mercedes-Benz had a similar rear-engined, yet rather unsuccessful, small car, the 130 H. In recent years Mercedes have produced the A-Class, relatively inexpensive compared to it's other models. Also the Smart brand of small affordable automobiles has been part of the Mercedes-Benz Group since 1994 and are still producing cars today in conjunction with DaimlerChrysler AG.

Since its inception, Mercedes-Benz has been known for its uncompromising emphasis on quality and durability. Increased focus on costs and volume, and the dramatically increased complexity in modern automobile electronics led to plummeting quality in the late 1990's and early 2000's. By 2005, Mercedes had risen back to the industry average for initial quality (if the \"complexity\" variable was ignored), according to J.D. Power.In 2006, however, Mercedes lashed out against Consumer Reportsafter the report on new cars for 2007 found Mercedes occupying 3 of the 6 worst quality luxury cars, 3 of the 7 worst quality sports cars, and the single least reliable SUV (as well as the fourth least reliable). Mercedes claimed that the results from both Consumer Reports and J.D. Power were not in keeping with their internal data. Many consumers, however, have complained that the company's responses to customer concerns have not been in line with what you'd expect from a prestige brand of unmatched illustrious history.



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post Sep 17 2018, 11:34 PM

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Can someone please help me to locate A160 A Class baby Merc used parts or half-cut garages around Klang Valley?

I am mantaining an imported 1999 A140.
In 2012 I managed to get parts from a workshop in Jalan Kuchai Lama but last year they no longer there as that area undergone upgraded roadworks

Thank you.
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post Sep 18 2018, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Sep 17 2018, 03:00 PM)
You asked the Sa to cut his kukujiao la! laugh.gif  Mine was broken in 9 months and I got it replaced under warranty! I had said before, now Mercedes car's quality is like proton standard! It's sad but true! Now you call up MBM, they will pusing u to their dealers! Getting lansee Liao MBM coz their cars are selling like hot cakes! They should ask Auto Bavaria when BMW was at its prime! Look at them now!
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Hahahah... well said... Kasi Potong... I will complain when I service my car next week. Thanks for the input!!! PotongPotong!
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post Sep 19 2018, 12:43 PM

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does anyone know where i can install this?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Car-auto-pl...2832606182.html


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post Sep 21 2018, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(naqib0307 @ Aug 1 2018, 07:18 PM)
First is, drive not so fast also can hear wind noise. Then they change dual layer front window.

Then now this. And then another warning. Left right light. Left n right indicator. Brake assist malfunction, then got engine indicator also. 1 by 1 la appear.
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Sorry to hear about your problem with your GLC, bro naqib... Hope it has been solved to your satisfaction.

I'm also interested in a GLC 250 and have been reading about the model's performance and issues, if any. Recently, I found this:

A problem with the steering geometry in right-hand drive cars (Mercs originally produced as left-hand drives?) called "crabbing". According to posts in UK and OZ GLC sites, steering right causes the ca to judder and jerk... MB has proposed changing type of tyres it seems.


https://www.glcforums.com/forum/322-glc-iss...ng-lock-92.html


Wondering if any such issues in the GLCs here. I've owned an E200 and a CLK200K in the past and never came across this problem. Thanks for your views, guys!
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post Sep 22 2018, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(hoffmeister @ Sep 21 2018, 11:26 PM)
Sorry to hear about your problem with your GLC, bro naqib... Hope it has been solved to your satisfaction.

I'm also interested in a GLC 250 and have been reading about the model's performance and issues, if any. Recently, I found this:

A problem with the steering geometry in right-hand drive cars (Mercs originally produced as left-hand drives?) called "crabbing". According to posts in UK and OZ GLC sites, steering right causes the ca to judder and jerk... MB has proposed changing type of tyres it seems.
https://www.glcforums.com/forum/322-glc-iss...ng-lock-92.html
Wondering if any such issues in the GLCs here. I've owned an E200 and a CLK200K in the past and never came across this problem. Thanks for your views, guys!
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Lower your expectations to the proton level than u r safe!
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post Sep 22 2018, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Sep 22 2018, 02:33 AM)
Lower your expectations to the proton level than u r safe!
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Now, now 19 Degree South...Let me try again. You don't have to knock proton just because I asked a sincere question about Mercs in different environments:- Some people vouch for certain proton models for their value for money while come conti owners knock their cars for going south in performance and reliability. If Mercs here don't have the problem I pointed up, just say so... As I said in the post, I've used certain models before together with a sweet e34 for several years with their own share of issues. Cheers!
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I need to respray my w213 entirely. Any recommendation ?
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post Sep 23 2018, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(hoffmeister @ Sep 22 2018, 01:22 PM)
Now, now 19 Degree South...Let me try again. You don't have to knock proton just because I asked a sincere question about Mercs in different environments:- Some people vouch for certain proton models for their value for money while come conti owners knock their cars for going south in performance and reliability. If Mercs here don't have the problem I pointed up, just say so... As I said in the post, I've used certain models before together with a sweet e34 for several years with their own share of issues. Cheers!
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I was talking facts! Why were you so defensive on proton? I am also a mercs owner and I merely talking about owning experience! Believed it or not it's your prerogative! Older models have far more great qualities than those recent models! Eg. W124!
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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Sep 23 2018, 03:09 PM)
I was talking facts! Why were you so defensive on proton? I am also a mercs owner and I merely talking about owning experience! Believed it or not it's your prerogative! Older models have far more great qualities than those recent models!  Eg. W124!
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IMO Your last statement is the 'fact' we should be talking about here. I wasn't singling out protons to defend but you were to compare them with Merc issues. Why... people talk about Peugeots and even Audis in less than favourable ways. BTW my merc E200 was a W124 and I can't help wondering why the more recent models don't drive and feel like it on the road. I thought the GLC might be better and was surprised to read about the crabbing problem in RH drive models, thus the post to ask about it. Again, if you or anyone else drives a GLC and find the owning experience satisfying, do write about it for the benefit of interested future owners.
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post Sep 23 2018, 08:24 PM

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When i start e250 w213, the aircond does not blow any air hot/cool on the driver side but it blows on my feet and its damn cold. I have changed the settings not to blow air on the foot side but it is still blowing. After i drive for few kilometers only it blows air to me. Top damn hot, foot damn cold. Passenger side no problem. Anyone encounter the same problem as me?
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QUOTE(hoffmeister @ Sep 23 2018, 07:09 PM)
IMO Your last statement is the 'fact' we should be talking about here. I wasn't singling out protons to defend but you were to compare them with Merc issues. Why... people talk about Peugeots and even Audis in less than favourable ways.  BTW my merc E200 was a W124 and I can't help wondering why the more recent models don't drive and feel like it on the road. I thought the GLC might be better and was surprised to read about the crabbing problem in RH drive models, thus the post to ask about it. Again, if you or anyone else drives a GLC and find the owning experience satisfying, do write about it for the benefit of interested future owners.
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No offence bro! I was saying When one paid a few hundred grands for a car and it should live up to its worth ! When my dad had his w124 , the materials used on that car was top notch! Now after donkey years, my uncle is still driving it and the interior is still in decent conditions! Just take a look at the cheap plastic used in the current or recent models! After few years of usage, the plastic starts to peel off! Wtf! If I paid 40k for a potong then I won't complain la! Can't comment much on the GLC as I am driving w205! Both share the same platform by the way!

QUOTE(naqib0307 @ Sep 23 2018, 08:24 PM)
When i start e250 w213, the aircond does not blow any air hot/cool on the driver side but it blows on my feet and its damn cold. I have changed the settings not to blow air on the foot side but it is still blowing. After i drive for few kilometers only it blows air to me. Top damn hot, foot damn cold. Passenger side no problem. Anyone encounter the same problem as me?
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The mini touch pad on the steering wheel is another crappy feature! Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't! shakehead.gif yes...till now I also couldn't figure out the operation of the air cond ! laugh.gif sometimes strong air blowing out from the side middle vent ! How to control that huh? tongue.gif
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Good news for those who wana install front facing child car seats in the rear middle seats. U can use the rear middle top tether anchor because it is actually there. U just need to open up the cover.
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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Sep 23 2018, 10:26 PM)
No offence bro! I was saying  When one paid a  few hundred grands for a car and it should live up to its worth ! When my dad had his w124 , the materials used on that car was top notch! Now after donkey years, my uncle is  still driving it and the interior is still in decent conditions! Just take a look at the cheap plastic used in the current or recent models! After few years of usage, the plastic starts to peel off! Wtf! If I paid 40k for a potong then I won't complain la! Can't comment much on the GLC as I am driving w205! Both share the same platform by the way!
The mini touch pad on the steering wheel is another crappy feature! Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't!  shakehead.gif yes...till now I also couldn't figure out the operation of the air cond ! laugh.gif sometimes strong air blowing out from the side  middle vent ! How to control that huh? tongue.gif
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Of course, no offence intended none taken bro! Agree too that cars should live up to their worth in the hundreds of thousands we pay. Talking of which, I had a good offer recently on a C250 W205 (2016)...I let go and started looking at GLC250s... Having driven a Land Cruiser, a Pajero and even a Vitara over the last 4 years in the GCC, I suppose I've grown accustomed to the higher seating position and performance on road:-) Yup...materials and reliability do seem to have taken a down turn in recent years although Mercs here seem to have surpassed Bimmers in sales...
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Hi, anybody here driving B-class W246?
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post Sep 28 2018, 10:59 AM

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Anyone knows when the new steering wheel will come to the w213 in malaysia?
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post Sep 29 2018, 06:53 PM

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Yeah got a courtesy car after a week sent in for repair still not done. Gt E250 which is also a new car about 1k mileage. Hahaha consider win-win can try out E250 while waiting for glc.
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After 2 months+ and the e250 clocking 5100km, the glc is still in workshop. 😂😂😡🤬
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QUOTE(naqib0307 @ Sep 29 2018, 06:53 PM)
After 2 months+ and the e250 clocking 5100km, the glc is still in workshop.  😂😂😡🤬
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Lemon unit? Hmm.. Wondering wats taking them so long?

Imagine the e250 is due for servicing and u still haven't received your car. Then u bring the e250 for servicing I wonder how the SC customer service officer's face looks like when he understands your situation, lol..

But i doubt u will encounter this kind of situation. They probably switch you another car.

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