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 LYN F1 V15 Season, Continuation from V14 2017

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post Sep 2 2018, 11:38 PM

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Well it was Ferrari's race to loose and they did! Again Seb screwed up and Ferrari also miss played their strategy, hence Kimi had to fight a loosing battle against 2 Mercs who both performed very well to steal the victory. Once I saw how Bottas held up Kimi with Ham closing fast plus Kimi's tires blistering badly, I knew it was game over already. As the lead car, Ferrari should've just covered what Merc would do with Ham instead of taking the initiative to pit first. This cost Kimi & Ferrari the win today. The fact that Seb was out of the contention so early also played a role here.

Driver of the day should've been Ham as he was faultless and drove a perfect race where he pushed Kimi all the way to make the strategy worked.

Now the title is for Ham to loose and honestly I doubt he will despite having just a slightly slower car. Seb has been making too many mistakes now, costing him so many points already, plus Ferrari also often not on top of their strategy. So the 32 pts gap is huge and will take a major blunder from Mercs & Ham to loose it (maybe some mechanical DNF).
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post Sep 2 2018, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Sep 2 2018, 11:19 PM)
btw, italian f1 fan is really unsportmans...they left early
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Huh? Did you listen to the commentator and then turn off the tv?

Still plenty left and it was a red sea. Mercedes being booed from beginning till the end.
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post Sep 2 2018, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 2 2018, 11:41 PM)
Huh? Did you listen to the commentator and then turn off the tv?

Still plenty left and it was a red sea. Mercedes being booed from beginning till the end.
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Yup and that's bad and unsporting. It's Ferrari that they should boo! laugh.gif
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post Sep 3 2018, 12:05 AM

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sad thing is kimi still cant win a race

ferrari can have a fast car but so many screw up wont win them anything again this year
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post Sep 3 2018, 12:50 AM

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post Sep 3 2018, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Sep 3 2018, 12:05 AM)
sad thing is kimi still cant win a race

ferrari can have a fast car but so many screw up wont win them anything again this year
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Kimi pole is just a fluke, and ferrari should already knew this and 'strategies' (team order... Cough) accordingly at the starts.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 2 2018, 11:41 PM)
Huh? Did you listen to the commentator and then turn off the tv?

Still plenty left and it was a red sea. Mercedes being booed from beginning till the end.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Sep 2 2018, 11:43 PM)
Yup and that's bad and unsporting. It's Ferrari that they should boo!  laugh.gif
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Normal la

Even vettel got the boo after winning in silverstone

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post Sep 3 2018, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 2 2018, 11:41 PM)
Huh? Did you listen to the commentator and then turn off the tv?

Still plenty left and it was a red sea. Mercedes being booed from beginning till the end.
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I'm listening to the race while doing something else after that crash...haha
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post Sep 3 2018, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Sep 2 2018, 11:38 PM)
Well it was Ferrari's race to loose and they did! Again Seb screwed up and Ferrari also miss played their strategy, hence Kimi had to fight a loosing battle against 2 Mercs who both performed very well to steal the victory. Once I saw how Bottas held up Kimi with Ham closing fast plus Kimi's tires blistering badly, I knew it was game over already. As the lead car, Ferrari should've just covered what Merc would do with Ham instead of taking the initiative to pit first. This cost Kimi & Ferrari the win today. The fact that Seb was out of the contention so early also played a role here.

Driver of the day should've been Ham as he was faultless and drove a perfect race where he pushed Kimi all the way to make the strategy worked.

Now the title is for Ham to loose and honestly I doubt he will despite having just a slightly slower car. Seb has been making too many mistakes now, costing him so many points already, plus Ferrari also often not on top of their strategy. So the 32 pts gap is huge and will take a major blunder from Mercs & Ham to loose it (maybe some mechanical DNF).
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Absolutely, too much error,racing incidents, maybe Seb is feeling the heat of tiffosi yesterday. But Ham,he's on fire, heads down & it was mjolnir time-attack all da way...funny reliability issue wasnt the case for SF & Merc up till now hmm.gif
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post Sep 3 2018, 09:24 AM

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Grosjean disqualified already.
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post Sep 3 2018, 10:11 AM

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I think Ferrari screwed up their pit strategy. And Vettel too eager to defend during the first lap. If he let Lewis pass, I think he might be able to over take him in later laps. And Kimi kena squeeze kao kao by the Merc with no backup.
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QUOTE(HMMaster @ Sep 3 2018, 10:11 AM)
I think Ferrari screwed up  their pit strategy. And Vettel too eager to defend during the first lap. If he let Lewis pass, I think he might be able to over take him in later laps. And Kimi kena squeeze kao kao by the Merc with no backup.
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Yup agree. Seb has been rather careless this season with notably 4 major mistakes so far, or else he would have been far in front in the points. Ferrari probably also brought Kimi too early and got trapped by Mercs. They probably should've just waited until Ham came in first but in fairness Ham kept the gap to Kimi too close (just around 1 sec) so if Ham pit first to try undercut, it may worked also for Ham. Ferrari just could not foresee that Kimi's tires will not last while Bottas could hang on for that long still with relatively good speed.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Sep 2 2018, 11:38 PM)
Well it was Ferrari's race to loose and they did! Again Seb screwed up and Ferrari also miss played their strategy, hence Kimi had to fight a loosing battle against 2 Mercs who both performed very well to steal the victory. Once I saw how Bottas held up Kimi with Ham closing fast plus Kimi's tires blistering badly, I knew it was game over already. As the lead car, Ferrari should've just covered what Merc would do with Ham instead of taking the initiative to pit first. This cost Kimi & Ferrari the win today. The fact that Seb was out of the contention so early also played a role here.

Driver of the day should've been Ham as he was faultless and drove a perfect race where he pushed Kimi all the way to make the strategy worked.

Now the title is for Ham to loose and honestly I doubt he will despite having just a slightly slower car. Seb has been making too many mistakes now, costing him so many points already, plus Ferrari also often not on top of their strategy. So the 32 pts gap is huge and will take a major blunder from Mercs & Ham to loose it (maybe some mechanical DNF).
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Is it Ferrari pitting Kimi earlier coz tricked by Mercedes's "phantom pit". I saw Mercedes moving out and in a few occasion trying to fool others? Lol

Anything can happen, don't forget Singapore the non-Mercedes friendly track, Hamilton can get as bad as 5th 6th position.
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post Sep 3 2018, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Sep 3 2018, 11:39 AM)
Is it Ferrari pitting Kimi earlier coz tricked by Mercedes's "phantom pit". I saw Mercedes moving out and in a few occasion trying to fool others? Lol

Anything can happen, don't forget Singapore the non-Mercedes friendly track, Hamilton can get as bad as 5th 6th position.
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Maybe, I think Ferrari worry about Ham undercutting coz he was so close behind. I think Ferrari would have wanted Kimi to open the gap over 3 secs to make it safer to react from any undercut strategy but Ham was also fast to keep close, hence they chose to pit first. I think as Seb was out of contention that early, Ferrari strategy got messed up by that. If Seb at least was 3rd after the 1st lap, Mercs would not be able to execute such perfect strategy as Bottas and Ham had to deal with Seb first.

Yes anything can still happen but the chances are getting smaller as each race passes by. Don't forget also Seb screwed up badly last year in SG which effectively ended up his title. SG is an unforgiving street track which makes the risk higher.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Sep 3 2018, 10:23 AM)
Yup agree. Seb has been rather careless this season with notably 4 major mistakes so far, or else he would have been far in front in the points. Ferrari probably also brought Kimi too early and got trapped by Mercs. They probably should've just waited until Ham came in first but in fairness Ham kept the gap to Kimi too close (just around 1 sec) so if Ham pit first to try undercut, it may worked also for Ham. Ferrari just could not foresee that Kimi's tires will not last while Bottas could hang on for that long still with relatively good speed.
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Maybe because Bottas was controlling the pace, so his tyre can last for few more laps. If Kimi manage to overtake bottas, I think it might be better. But I guess the pressure from Lewis at the back probably put him off of overtaking bottas (since he going to pit soon) and don't want to take any risk.
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post Sep 3 2018, 01:45 PM

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Ferrari never prepared for 'what-if' situation. Can see from their tyre choice....and testing done with soft tyres.

Also, they failed to react fast, unlike RB.
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So who will fill that void? My expectation is Lando Norris.... (although I don't know if he have enough points for superlicence).

Edit: Confirmed, it's Norris.



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So who will fill that void? My expectation is Lando Norris.... (although I don't know if he have enough points for superlicence).
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it shows that wingman tactic is vital for championship...KR had his chance so Scuderia will need wingman to shake & bake the Merc
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Seems this year will be Kimi's last as report is Leclerc already signed for 2019 by the previous late boss.

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