Vandoorne so far has been a disappointment but not too surprising as he goes up against Alonso. He can claim all he wants that he's close to Alonso but the fact is Alonso has been crushing him consistently.

Yup Seb might be apprehensive about Ric as Ric had beaten him before in RB which up to this day still the only team mate who has done so. However if Ferrari still looses out the constructor while Seb manages to win the title, then surely they would have a look at the weak links and that would expose Kimi. For the team, constructor title is equally important if not more. In this last race Kimi finished over 1 pit stop away from Seb which is a very long way back, so that is a glaring lack of pace from what many still regard as the best car on the grid or at least equal to Mercs.

It's been ironic that F1 wants to cut costs, yet it uses such complicated and expensive engine formula and keeps changing the rule which requires more development costs.

kimi no doubt disappointing, unless kimi can step up cant see what logic ferrari keep kimi next year

this weekend le mans, nando and button in the same race..thats something to watch

And as everyone might have noticed, for don't know how many races already, Kimi has never been able to gain a position on the start and again lost a place rather easily, this time to Ric. It seems he is playing it too safe these days. In the olden days, he was clean and able to balance that with good aggression for brave overtaking or wheel-to-wheel combat. Nowadays, he is just safe but not much aggression anymore.

Imo.

Its ok to be safe, but making mistakes when it matters (qualifying) is not.

yeah, kimi seem to be making mistakes at the time it matters most

its tough for ferrari and vettel to win the championship if kimi can't challenge mercedes taking points off them

Yes especially since Bottas is performing better too. It's really time for Kimi to retire already. His best chance to win was Monaco last year and of all places where pole position means the most, he still failed! Put Ric on the red car and we should have more interesting battles (assuming RB is still slightly behind like now). I wish Alonso can return to Ferrari or at least join RB, sigh...so wasted talent. McLaren is really rubbish now and keep going down to join Williams.

le mans so far have been boring, toyota racing on their own and LMP1 is just irrelevant

but GTE pro where the race is, last few laps porsche vs ford gt the highlight..if you think verstappen weaving at the very last sec is bad this guy in porsche made the mother of all weaving lol

wow alonzo and toyota wins le mans

by racing on their own lol

it's a hollow victory no matter what..toyota is just running the clock down since yday as long car dont break down they will win

great drive from alonso during the night and thats about it..nobody to compete on the same level its not even a race but i guess alonzo is happy got his name on the winners list

I dont even remember the last time he won a race

Yeah, it was just a race of 2 cars, just like this year WEC is also a championship of 2 cars!
I suppose Alonso will be going to Indy next year to try complete his triple crown ambition after he won this Le Mans.

Kudos to FA14, but trying to win Indy 500 is way more complex than 24 hr Le Mans i guess...

Well i guess there is a saying finnish peak 2 early and finish steam 2 early

Maybe that is why i think it is finally right mika hakkinen retired after blowing his chances in 2001

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long ago, i guess back in 2013 when he still with ferrari..if not just go google

2 cars of a same team, is that even a race or a exhibition? haha

i dont follow indy but at least this a RACE with competition..winning indy would be a big thing for alonso before he bow out of racing

kimi at his best in mid 2000 but now i see he is wasting a valuable seat in ferrari, worst still ferrari now is capable of winning races than finish outside podium in a distant

fans love him he is cool but kimi have passed his best, still fast but not fast enough compare to vettel and hamilton plus all the *facepalm* mistakes he always do

So..

Red Bull Honda

If next year they beat McLaren, maybe Alonso will retired

Alonso looks to be leaving by end of this year to go to Indy.

Seems like McLaren is the most losers... paid so much for Alonso, ended up with nothing, just sour relations with Honda. Seems like wherever Alonso went, he left 'problem' there.

McLaren is following Williams to become the fallen giants, just like Lotus and to some extent Ferrari in the 80s (even though Ferrari even at their worst never dropped as low as the other 3, and was able to come back strong).

For his ability, I think Alonso should worth the money coz he is still consistently fast with excellent race craft to climb up the field, dragging a dog of a car higher up where it should not belong. If not for Alonso's performance, McLaren will have even worse results I think, just like Williams. It's just maybe he's not really a good team player and he demands a lot but I believe all drivers at his caliber also have similar arrogance and expectations from the others to live up to their demands, just that some maybe more diplomatic than others. McLaren only has themselves to blame for the poor performance in the last few years.

Rumor is Ric is already approached by McLaren for a whopping USD20mill! This is a stronger indication that Alonso will be leaving hence providing McLaren the huge budget to offer other drivers.

Maybe related to that, another rumor is Ferrari is looking more keen to replace Kimi with Leclerc as they don't want to spend on another highly paid driver aside from Seb. Since Ric seems to have his price already pretty high, that seems to take him out of consideration from Ferrari.

my kepala pusing looking at paul ricard run off area lol