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azriel
post May 11 2018, 07:50 PM

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Construction progress of Indonesian Navy new Bintuni Class LST KRI Teluk Lada-521 at PT Daya Radar Utama Shipyard. Credit to seto_k98.

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post May 11 2018, 09:44 PM

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Footage of Syrian Pantsir-S1 destroyed by Israel.



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post May 11 2018, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 11 2018, 07:27 PM)
Wonder what will the new gov do with current defence policy.

Can we expect any significant changes? hmm.gif
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probably the usual for this penggal

projects that are already in progress would continue.. like the LCS, AV8 n stuff

I bet the MiG's replacement gonna delay selection again

there's also a possibility that they will dig out the issue about Scorpene and Perimekar again... yer know.. since indirectly also related to Atlantuya, Rosmah...
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post May 11 2018, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 11 2018, 09:54 PM)
probably the usual for this penggal

projects that are already in progress would continue.. like the LCS, AV8 n stuff

I bet the MiG's replacement gonna delay selection again

there's also a possibility that they will dig out the issue about Scorpene and Perimekar again... yer know.. since indirectly also related to Atlantuya, Rosmah...
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Wondering more on the issues regarding national sovereignty. To me recently we serve issues like ESSCOM and Spratly island very passively.

Can we expect the status quo or maybe we will be a bit more assertive on these issues? As I remember Tun M used to be very bullish on national interest matters and hardly relents on such issues.


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post May 11 2018, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 11 2018, 10:13 PM)
Wondering more on the issues regarding national sovereignty. To me recently we serve issues like ESSCOM and Spratly island very passively.

Can we expect the status quo or maybe we will be a bit more assertive on these issues? As I remember Tun M used to be very bullish on national interest matters and hardly relents on such issues.
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probably will be more stern coz during Pulau Batu Puteh issue, Tun M was quite vocal about it..

Dunno about ESSCOM tho, but I for one, hope that under this new gov, Polis Marin will be revamped back, they're quite effective in handling those Sabah waters
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post May 12 2018, 01:24 AM

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I am looking forward to the likes of Tony Pua and Rafizi going over the govt papers. For decades Opposition have no info about defence assessments, contracts etc. Now they have everything they need to make the proper decisions.

Though we are indeed in relatively tough economic times I believe Pakatan will minimise the effect of kickbacks and commissions and that will improve effective defence spending.

Its not that the former Opposition was totally against defence spending (though we know there are some pacifist nutcases amongst them). Its just that we know how incredibly corrupt defence acquisition was.

QUOTE(azriel @ May 11 2018, 09:44 PM)
Footage of Syrian Pantsir-S1 destroyed by Israel.


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azriel
post May 12 2018, 08:21 AM

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Indonesia Orders Two More C235 Maritime Patrollers

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KUALA LUMPUR—Indonesian Aerospace has received an order for two additional C235 maritime patrollers for the Indonesian Navy, adding to five already ...


http://m.aviationweek.com/awindefense/indo...time-patrollers

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post May 12 2018, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ May 12 2018, 01:24 AM)
I am looking forward to the likes of Tony Pua and Rafizi going over the govt papers. For decades Opposition have no info about defence assessments, contracts etc. Now they have everything they need to make the proper decisions.

Though we are indeed in relatively tough economic times I believe Pakatan will minimise the effect of kickbacks and commissions and that will improve effective defence spending.

Its not that the former Opposition was totally against defence spending (though we know there are some pacifist nutcases amongst them). Its just that we know how incredibly corrupt defence acquisition was.
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I hope we can concentrate more on buying off-the-shelf military assets. These custom-requirement assets we are used to having costs way too much. We pay so much for so few assets only.

Also I hope the asset procurement method & process can be reformed and streamlined. There's currently too many middlemen and too much 'agent's fees' being paid out. mad.gif


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post May 12 2018, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 12 2018, 11:25 AM)
I hope we can concentrate more on buying off-the-shelf military assets. These custom-requirement assets we are used to having costs way too much. We pay so much for so few assets only.

Also I hope the asset procurement method & process can be reformed and streamlined. There's currently too many middlemen and too much 'agent's fees' being paid out. mad.gif
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Hopefully very much

People like Tony Pua sure jump on this issue. Provided the chiefs of staff are consulted and heeded we are on to a great thing.

But then Madey has his own opinion on things sad.gif
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post May 12 2018, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ May 12 2018, 11:45 AM)
But then Madey has his own opinion on things sad.gif
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i bet the migs gonna be revived from the grave again..
considering how much love he has for them biggrin.gif
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post May 12 2018, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ May 12 2018, 11:45 AM)
Hopefully very much

People like Tony Pua sure jump on this issue. Provided the chiefs of staff are consulted and heeded we are on to a great thing.

But then Madey has his own opinion on things sad.gif
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Hope improvements can be made.

All this while damn sakit hati when another country buy some assets that's the same as us but they spent less on them. Sometimes as much as 30%-40% less.

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post May 12 2018, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 12 2018, 11:57 AM)
Hope improvements can be made.

All this while damn sakit hati when another country buy some assets that's the same as us but they spent less on them. Sometimes as much as 30%-40% less.
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That has always been the case. More damaging than rojak equipment problem.
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 12 2018, 11:25 AM)
I hope we can concentrate more on buying off-the-shelf military assets. These custom-requirement assets we are used to having costs way too much. We pay so much for so few assets only.

Also I hope the asset procurement method & process can be reformed and streamlined. There's currently too many middlemen and too much 'agent's fees' being paid out. mad.gif
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haha dream on la
change leader the game played is the same till now

QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ May 12 2018, 11:54 AM)
i bet the migs gonna be revived from the grave again..
considering how much love he has for them  biggrin.gif
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lol you meant the MIG-29Nadjib?

QUOTE(KLboy92 @ May 12 2018, 01:22 PM)
That has always been the case. More damaging than rojak equipment problem.
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unless the government can change it's policy on choosing the economic offset
then yes
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post May 12 2018, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 12 2018, 01:37 PM)
haha dream on la
change leader the game played is the same till now
lol you meant the MIG-29Nadjib?
unless the government can change it's policy on choosing the economic offset
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Now we have unknown element - DAP MPs involved

Anything could happen

Last 3 days already proved that rclxms.gif
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post May 12 2018, 04:05 PM

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post May 13 2018, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ May 11 2018, 06:47 PM)
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shameful... it is something waiting to happen... they should be glad more death didnt occur

QUOTE(KLboy92 @ May 11 2018, 07:31 PM)
UHHHHHH

Firearms safety people come in please... but that looks like a really bad idea
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lol.. as expected..

QUOTE(KLboy92 @ May 11 2018, 07:34 PM)
People here will object that it is not true, the ATM has conducted itself absolutely professionally and apolitically all this while

Really?
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yes, very real... cant you see from those here... absolutely professionally and apolitically all this while

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 11 2018, 09:27 PM)
Wonder what will the new gov do with current defence policy.

Can we expect any significant changes? hmm.gif
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doubt so, we will most likely see that military will receive less priority while homeland will receive more support...

QUOTE(KLboy92 @ May 12 2018, 03:24 AM)
I am looking forward to the likes of Tony Pua and Rafizi going over the govt papers. For decades Opposition have no info about defence assessments, contracts etc. Now they have everything they need to make the proper decisions.

Though we are indeed in relatively tough economic times I believe Pakatan will minimise the effect of kickbacks and commissions and that will improve effective defence spending.

Its not that the former Opposition was totally against defence spending (though we know there are some pacifist nutcases amongst them). Its just that we know how incredibly corrupt defence acquisition was.
Ohhh shit brows.gif
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not only proper decisions but also assessment of previous procurement...

effective spending is what the military needs... its not like those in uniform receive a lot during songlaps..

corruption cripples national security not just from the military perspective...
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post May 13 2018, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ May 13 2018, 10:25 AM)
shameful... it is something waiting to happen... they should be glad more death didnt occur
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Those are weapons seized from previous police raids. The prisoners took those weapons from the weapons storage after they took over the prison. Ofcourse mistakes have been made by the police.

Well this incident reminded me of the Battle of Qala-i-Jangi where there was a Taliban prisoners uprising and took over the compound.

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post May 13 2018, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ May 13 2018, 01:27 PM)
Those are weapons seized from previous police raids. The prisoners took those weapons from the weapons storage after they took over the prison. Ofcourse mistakes have been made by the police. 

Well this incident reminded me of the Battle of Qala-i-Jangi where there was a Taliban prisoners uprising and took over the compound.
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when there's human element there's bound to have mistakes... even with singkie and their mat selamat episode... but in the article what's glaring are the known weaknesses not being addressed even by supposedly most elite law enforcement unit... the upper echelon must be sleeping
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6 killed, dozens wounded in bomb attacks at 3 churches in Indonesia

At least six people were killed and dozens more injured in a wave of blasts including a suicide bombing outside churches in Indonesia's second-biggest city Surabaya on Sunday (May 13), police said, tripling the initial death toll.

"There have been three attacks at three churches," East Java Police spokesman Frans Barung Mangera said.

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"The victims are being identified," the spokesman added.

The deadly blasts all occurred within 10 minutes of each other, police said, with the first explosion at 7.30 am (0030 GMT).

Police have only given details of one attack on Santa Maria Catholic Church and there have not yet been any claims of responsibility.

"We have confirmed one died at the scene, one died at the hospital, two police officers were injured and there are some civilians injured," Mangera said.

"In total 13 people are being treated at the hospital."

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Television images showed debris scattered around the entrance of one church and police cordoning off areas as crowds gathered.

Authorities were also investigating whether there was an explosion at a fourth church.

Police ordered the temporary closure of all churches in Surabaya, and a large food festival in the city was cancelled.

The bombings come days after Islamist militant prisoners killed five members of an elite counter-terrorism force during a 36-hour standoff at a high security jail on the outskirts of the capital, Jakarta.

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Source: Agencies/mn
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/6...hes-in-10228924

let us all pray msia will never see such a day sad.gif
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post May 13 2018, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ May 13 2018, 12:23 PM)
6 killed, dozens wounded in bomb attacks at 3 churches in Indonesia

Source: Agencies/mn
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/6...hes-in-10228924

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Sad news. RIP. Condolences to the victims families.

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