What was the per unit cost of upgrading?

That proposal was years ago. By now it seems that the Migs really aren't flight worthy anymore, and a few have been parted out?

ini projek mahal gila
baik beli baru

Can't remember it was proposed in the 2015
but it is  involved removing the frame structure of the fuselage and installing a total new frame of the jet

Can't remember it was proposed in the 2015
but it is  involved removing the frame structure of the fuselage and installing a total new frame of the jet

yup..too expensive..byk kena tukar...baik beli baru

Sound like buying new jet fighters is better and more pratical then upgrading it.

correct
changing a cold war tech in to newer tech is expensive
hear2

Malaysian SCDF NSF dies after ORD celebrations go wrong; two SCDF regular personnel arrested



SINGAPORE - A Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) full-time national serviceman (NSF) died after he was found unconscious inside a pump well at Tuas View Fire Station on Sunday (May 13).

In a statement on Monday, SCDF said that Corporal Kok Yuen Chin, 22, was found there at about 9.20pm. He had been celebrating his impending operationally ready date (ORD) with his squad mates.

One of the activities involved getting him into the pump well, which is a reservoir of water used by fire station personnel for training and testing of pumps for fire engines, it said.



The pump well is about 12m deep with a diameter of 1.8m. At the time of the incident, the water level in the well was about 1m from the opening.

However, Cpl Kok, who is a Malaysian national and Singapore permanent resident, did not resurface. A number of SCDF personnel jumped into the pump well to find him, but were unsuccessful. He was eventually pulled out of the well after the water was drained.

Two SCDF regular personnel were arrested on Monday after preliminary investigations. The duo, holding the rank of Warrant Officer 1 and Staff Sergeant, were Cpl Kok's colleagues who worked in the same shift duty at the station.

Speaking briefly to the media on Monday afternoon, Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam said that from the facts so far, it was clear the conduct of some involved in the incident was "quite wrong".

"It's in clear violation of SCDF's rules. It should not have happened. Unacceptable. Period."

He added: "We will get to the bottom of it."Cardio-pulmonary resuscitation was administered to Cpl Kok followed by the use of an automated external defibrillator. He was taken to Ng Teng Fong General Hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

Cpl Kok, who had drowned, was supposed to have attained ORD status on Wednesday. This is the first death as a result of ragging in the SCDF.

SCDF said the police are conducting investigations into what had happened, including how Cpl Kok fell into the pump well, and whether anyone is criminally responsible.

"SCDF is saddened by his death and extends our deepest condolences to his family," it said. "We are providing all necessary assistance to the family during this difficult time."

Investigations also showed the incident arose as a result of activities that SCDF has prohibited.

Severe punishments and deterrent action have been meted out in the past to those who engaged in unauthorised activities, SCDF said. It will be conducting briefings at all fire stations and bases, as well as checks on whether there were any such activities in the recent past.

A Board of Inquiry (BOI) will also be convened to look into the case, said the SCDF, with full details to be made public in due course.

Under the Civil Defence Act , the Home Affairs Minister is empowered to convene a BOI to look into any matter connected with the government, discipline, administration or functions of the SCDF, or those affecting any person subject to the Act. Members of the board might not necessarily be from SCDF.

Depending on the severity of the incident and culpability of those involved, punishments for regular officers can range from warning letters to demotion or dismissal from service. Officers will also be prosecuted if there is criminal wrongdoing.

NSFs and operationally ready NS men face penalties ranging from fines to custodial sentences in the SCDF Detention Barrack.

As investigations are ongoing, Mr Shanmugam said it was not appropriate to comment on the details on the case. However, previous cases of inappropriate conduct within the SCDF have surfaced before, and action has been taken.



He has also asked the force to conduct an audit following the case.

"When conduct which is not sanctioned takes place - celebration or otherwise - action has been taken. But then, after a while, people forget and then break the rules again."

Mr Shanmugam and SCDF's Deputy Commissioner Chong Hoi Hung had also met Cpl Kok's family members earlier on Monday.

Said Mr Shanmugam: "I think it's a tragic loss of life. Young man full of potential... At this stage, of course, SCDF is doing everything it can to assist the family.

"Nothing's going to bring the young man back to life so it's a tragic loss. Investigations are continuing."

Said DC Chong: "As what we have mentioned earlier, SCDF does not condone such unauthorised activities and we have been telling our commanders to brief the men properly to ensure that they do not undertake such unauthorised activities."

In an interview with The New Paper on Monday night, Cpl Kok's aunt said that her could not swim, and had told his siblings in Melaka he was afraid of being thrown into the pump well when he returned to Singapore.

"Everyone in the camp knew that he was afraid of water, and could not swim," said Madam Kok Chun Fa. "The whole family was worried, but we thought there would be someone supervising the situation."

She said that Cpl Kok, who had returned to Malaysia to vote in the general election last week, even bought snacks to take back to Singapore for his colleagues to try to persuade them not to rag him.



The incident comes two weeks after the death of another NSF, Corporal First Class Dave Lee Han Xuan. The 19-year-old died on April 30, after being hospitalised in Changi General Hospital for heatstroke.

A Committee of Inquiry has been formed to look into the circumstances that led to his death, and a coroner's inquiry may also be held, depending on the outcome of the police investigation for the case.

Frankly it doesn't impress me
Like updating 60s jet to 90s only

Ni kena report KDN ni...aphal plak ko keja dengan gov singapore lepas tu boleh balik vote plak?..itu belum yg join SAF NS lagi tu..

Msia benarkan PR negara lain memegang kewarganegaraan Msia

SG Permanent Resident kena masuk NS
Bukan saja PR, anak PR pun kena masuk NS

Antara sebab tu hantar dia masuk SCDF lah... kurang sensitive drpd SAF

Ada je yg join SAF..tapi tak kisah la SAF ke atau SCDF..itu dah kira berkhidmat untuk kerajaan asing..and then siap boleh vote? Come on la takkan tak ada sesiapa boleh fikir ini dah melibat national security..

Warganegara Malaysia dibenarkan pegang PR negara asing tetapi tidak dibenarkan berkhidmat dengan kerajaan negara asing tanpa kebenaran.

Mengikut perlembagaan, Kerajaan dibenarkan dengan perintah untuk melucutkan kewarganegaraan Malaysia sekiranya seseorang warganegara berkhidmat dengan kerajaan asing.

Pada takat ini, I rasa ex menteri2 kita lebih merbahayakan national security

Nak lucutkan go ahead. Tapi fyi ada juga negara lain yang benarkan warganegaranya masuk tentera negara lain... bila pulang kekadang dia akan tanya, unit mana, base mana, equipment apa, SOP mana

Betul..tapi bagi saya tahap ancaman kedua2 nya adalah sama..
Maybe this Malaysian singapore nsf is one of the reason why dorang jadi ex menteri. Maybe this Malaysian singapore nsf vote or influance people to vote party that favour singapore gov or policy..so kerajaan Malaysia kena ambil tindakan..

If you think about it, no wonder bila Malaysia nak beli or update military hardware or policy ada je bangkangan yang karut marut from this one particular party or group..first tuduh membazir sebab kita tak perang...bila ATM sudah bagi justification then buat spekulasi kata pembelian tak telus..yang best tu tuduh kita beli sebab nak perang dgn singapore. Why mention singapore? Apsal tak sebut thailand ke indon ke? huhuhu

Actually I'm more surprised that Singapore wants people who are only PR to be involved in their national defense. Isn't this potential fifth column?

kalau warga Malaysia nk serve dalam military or para-military force negara lain, aku cadangkan, lucut je la kerakyatan dia..

Delapan heli tempur Apache resmi bergabung dengan TNI AD

Rabu, 16 Mei 2018 10:18 WIB

Semarang (ANTARA News) - TNI Angkatan Darat menerima delapan unit helikopter serang AH-64E Apache buatan Amerika Serikat di Semarang, hari ini.

Delapan Apache ini secara simbolis diserahkan Menteri Pertahanan Ryamizard Ryacudu kepada Panglima TNI Marsekal TNI Hadi Tjahjanto yang diwakili Aslog Panglima TNI Laksda TNI Bambang Nariyono di Pangkalan Udara Utama TNI Angkatan Darat Ahmad Yani, Semarang.

Diserahkan pula Sertifikat Kelaikan Udara Militer heli ini dari Kepala Pusat Kelaikan Badan Sarana Pertahanan Kementerian Pertahanan kepada Komandan Pusat Penerbangan TNI Angkatan Darat.

Penandatangan naskah berita acara serah terima kedelapan unit Apache ini dilakukan oleh Kepala Badan Sarana Pertahanan Kementerian Pertahanan, Asisten Logsitik Panglima TNI, Asisten Logistik Kasad, dan Danpusnerbad disaksikan Menteri Pertahanan, Kasad dan Wakil Kepala Perwakilan Permerintah Amerika Serikat.