My obsession towards MJ doesnt mean that i dont praise other players... I do have my praises on others,
as 4 my fav player in NBA since joinin phoenix, nash, which i fancy so much bcoz of his assist and passes around the court.
Kobe had 81 points, dats a remarkable achievement, lebron has spectacular moves and dunks like mad. N i do like amare stoudemire on his strength n drive to the basket using huge leap n power to dunk it over anyone. N same goes for howard.

well dat was the thing dat i pointed out.. statistically, defending doesnt reflect much on it..
i was refering to be the BEST DEFENDER OF THE YEAR, NOT NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAM PLAYER... to achieve dat u must show it statistically.
so u got ur point wrong already or perhaps ur definition was to good defender and not to win the BEST DEFENDER OF THE YEAR award. Bruce bowen is regard to be the best defender due to his hussle play and tight d he puts on his opponents makin hard for his opponent to take a shot. He is one tough player for Guards to play with. Perhaps if he cud get among the top 2 steals in a season perhaps he cud have won it.

It looks like u were playin more of a rodman,wallace or is it bowen role for ur team. Well u always need dat kind of player to contribute most on defense coz when u play good defense, ur offense will start to comeby. Settling the game is by getting ur defense at its best and den u focus on ur offense. Dats the strategy i always use for my team. But sumtime is just hard to really play as one team, coz lack of trainings. Pickup games doesnt help much, it just boost ur stamina. But in basketball, the gel is important to know how ur teammates play and adapt to their style of play. Too bad my current team sucks big time to discipline, imagine playing the whole tourney with 6-7 players only. well dats wat we expect from amateur players playing in an amateur league.. hehehehehe

This post has been edited by jumpman23: Aug 29 2007, 07:48 PM

All the long essays are killing my eyes...
Maybe you guys should start blog writing on your own personal view

Still debating on his Airness.

This post has been edited by -= Virgil =-: Aug 29 2007, 08:05 PM

well d dbate on the airness is over, deres nothing to debate actually, is just sumone unhappy bout me
giving too much praises towards him.. im just sharing my love of NBA through him.. hehehe...
i have no mean in offending anyone. We all have different way of seeing things.. dats all..
it is a healthy forum dont u think.. rather den just posting on news bout NBA here... dat be dull..
gonna add some spice to it.. heheheheheh...

starting a blog? no dude, i certainly dont have the time to start dat, we all have a career to pursue wif..
So virgil, im sure u have ur most fav player in NBA and fav NBA team ?
perhaps u can share dat with us.. wud really love to hear ur views..

Wat bout u waynechen.. i sure wud like to hear bout ur views as wel...

I dont really have a favorite player.
For me, i just love to see the NBA players perform in court, whoever he is.
Cause it is the speed and fast pace action of the game that really attract me to watching and to basketball.
I do remember how i go crazy about Chauncey's step back jump shot, i think 3 or 4 season ago when they were the champs.

ahh.. ic.. i guess ur not so enthusiast bout NBA like me n jon.. hehe
d pistons r good alrite, for me dey still keep their traditional tight Defense strategy to win their games..
from the years of the bad boys til now.. well i think til last year, since dey've lost the most influential
defender wallace in center.. dey only have prince who is the highly rated defender for piston in his position, other teammates are good as wel xcept
rip which contributes more to offense in d team n rasheed, webber n nazr which cudnt really replace wallaces place to play in defense..
dey just need to cover up the loop hole with a highly rated center n i bet dey have another chance to go to the final... we'll see wat surprise dey have for us to see this year..

chauncey to me is good.. n he really considered to be among the quickest n strongest PG around.. his driving layups is fast n strong and has quick flick on the wrist wen performin his stepback jumpers like u said..

so i guess i can consider ur fav player is chauncey huh...

This post has been edited by jumpman23: Aug 29 2007, 09:48 PM

*off topic:

who read NBA basketball magazine here? I bought some for example XXL, SLAM (chinese version), Hoops... but now i just concentrate on XXL, their articles are great, but it is in chinese language thou.

been buying it since 1999, great NBA knowledge resource

Hahaha..our debate wasn't about Best Defender Of the year to begin with. It began with me pointing out that to be a good defender, statistical value cannot prove that. I feel so wrongly accused when you say that of me haha. And no, i can't find the site here yet, but it doesn't have to prove things statistically to win the NBA defensive player of the year award. They dont "filter" the stats and then pick one player. They look at the overall game of the player, thats why they have sportswriter voting for it.
My gameplay imitates Ron Artest...

Among the quickest PG, yea maybe, (quickest would be parker), but strongest..hell yea....

Watch his games, and the way he uses his butt to push defenders away, and the way he layups

Foof!~

can parker be a top point guard?
can he lead the team?

Top Point Guard, most probably
Lead the team..oh most definitely. Tim Duncan is the captain now, but if you watch the game, Parker can control the team when Duncan is not in the team.

But duncan remains one my most respected player

Talking bout layups, Parker did the impossible during the Finals of the just ended season.
No matter how they hustle and defense, Parker can just throw the ball into the net.
Sometimes, it reminds me of how his airness toss it up

best PG = kidd...

parker can lead well and score...
duncan has the aura which all leaders have...

eh eh eh eh eh eh eh?
why do you say best PG is kidd?

why why why why why why:?

PG doesnt need to score but rather create shots for teammates and breaking the opposing team's defense...
kidd fullfills these criteria well as well as being a balanced player...
when needed he can score well...

that's why even kobe is makign noises for lakers to obtain kidd as...

yeap, i agree wit u, for current active player, no doubt j kidd by far the best PG, except no championship as an evidence. Maybe nash comparable to him if he continue doing what he doing now at phoenix until he can prove that he can bring them a ring.

on jianlin, i'm still frustrated, why does it take them so long to finish the deal? i think it is the agent that screw things up.

Here's from Y! Sports:

Bucks, Yi Jianlian finish negotiations in Hong Kong

current FIBA tourney, did u guys watch the video highlight? it is funny why USA team trying so hard to rock the rim, altho opponent normally just let them get the easy basket. for example, carmelo dunk against puerto rico; he raise his leg so high up on the air until he can't land properly!

watch here: Highlight USA vs Puerto Rico
at 00:29

This post has been edited by bitterbutter: Aug 30 2007, 04:22 AM

well to me kidd is aint good as he used to, he is a superb passer n has good instincts but he doesnt have the speed and skills to pass thru defender..
and he is not a consistent shooter ..
his age is gettin to him..
i feel my heart for nashie coz he got all pure guards have.. xcept he doesnt have the strength like chauncey... but dat doesnt matter,
physical strength is needed mostly during post up so its more to speed and pace for the pg to suit their gamestyle.. and if they are are terrific shooter like nashie, especially 3 points play, den dats what make them a real threat in offense..
n i agree wit jon, parker is among the quickest compared to the top ranking pg's around.. but i last year he really improved on his shooting compare to the previous years.. but my money is not on them, i just dont fancy dem coz i just got sumthin against the spurs...
maybe coz dey knocked off the bulls from the playoff one of few times.. hehehehehhe
n also dey play more of a defensive game, like chelsea yeah.. so dats y i fancy for the suns like arsenal coz of their passes and plays and high scoring points.. but of corse usually the defensive tactic wins most games... like the pistons and the spurs..

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Added on August 30, 2007, 8:41 amwell u didnt get my point at all i guess.. heres to freshen u up, i pointed out in the post that a to be a good defender doesnt necessarily being judged by their statistics..like i mentioned earlier, boxing out, recovering ur teammate when needed, n switching players wen needed.. which u pointed out again.. hmm.. i just dont know y u wanna reword dat coz it means the same from ur view..
BUT BUT, to be the best defendsive player of the year award, 99% or so ,they wud pick from the stats of achieving the among the high ranks in rebounds, blocks or steals or either both.....
DATS MY POINT! U revert back to me saying bowen who didnt prove it statistically almost almost almost win the defensive player of the year .. but he didnt did he?????
y??? well back to my point, he cudnt bcoz he wasnt among the top in rebounds, blocks or steals... So u make sure u get ur facts straight with a logic 1 or 0 not in between..
its about 1 or 0.. yes or no... its not about almost , or 0.999999 its bout yes or no...
i based on the statistics of players who've won the defensive player of the year. But i agree if it was to pick defensive first team year, den dey wud b based on the stats and also out of it.

AND DUDE DUDE, to get all those high stats in rebounds, steals and blocks. It takes a huge amount of effort to be dere. Dont kid me man, u wudnt know how hard is it for them to achieve dat. So yes, the stats are a very very important thing to win demself the player of the year award. Thats the only thing dats visible and most comparison are made from their stats.
So the only thing u can prove me wrong, is once the NBA pick Defensive player of the year award which is not based on their high stat in rebounds, steals and blocks..

This post has been edited by jumpman23: Aug 30 2007, 09:10 AM

Bucks Sign Yi Jianlian To Multi-Year Contract

The Milwaukee Bucks announced on Wednesday that 2007 first round draft pick Yi Jianlian has signed a multi-year contract. The Bucks 6th overall selection in the 2007 NBA Draft, Yi Jianlian signed his contract in Hong Kong following a negotiating session with Mr. Chen Haitao, owner of the Guangdong Tigers.

Bucks owner and team president Senator Herb Kohl, General Manager Larry Harris and Bucks Vice President Ron Walter were able to meet with Mr. Chen, as well as Yi and his family, as part of the process.

Yi Jianlian is expected to join the team for training camp that begins on Monday, October 1 at the Bucks Training Center in St. Francis, WI.

"There has been a genuine excitement throughout our city and state, as well as internationally, following our selection of Yi in the NBA Draft," said Senator Herb Kohl. "We all anticipate Yi's arrival and welcome him and his family to Milwaukee. We look forward to a successful relationship for many years to come."

"We would be remiss if we didn't acknowledge and thank Mr. Chen for his assistance and support in the negotiating process," Kohl added.
NBA yahoo

Finally Yi is going to perform on the classic wood
Seems like i will be adding the Bucks to my the-watch-list... for now.

i think u can give him a few years to adapt to NBA n c his real potential.. hope he does well as yao..

Yea. Yao didnt do well too at the start of his NBA career.
I just couldnt stop laughing at Yao's fall when Marbury dribble in front of him
Yi has a lot of experience with international players and i think he would be off to a good start and i personally think the language barrier will be some factor to it, and probably team chemistry.
Otherwise, from his international performance, i think he is doing alright.
Remember that dunk over Gasol

This post has been edited by -= Virgil =-: Aug 30 2007, 09:12 AM

hmm.. added bucks on my list also.. but at da bottom on my list..^^