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 NBA, new season will start by Oct 30, 2007

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post Aug 19 2007, 06:45 PM

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Melo + Iverson...the forgotten pair
Denver does have a rounded team, with Camby post up, they have a complete role, but again, camby is always injured, Iverson's age is catching up, Melo is volatile

Pierce has NOT been getting the support from players around him. Sad to say, but true to the fact. I dont really like him as a player, but i have to tip my hat to him, for his perseverance. This should be a breakout year for him, it will be up to Doc Rivers to play they team correctly, though i'll prefer the master zen himself to deal with such blockbuster team
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QUOTE(-Jonathan- @ Aug 19 2007, 06:45 PM)
Melo + Iverson...the forgotten pair
Denver does have a rounded team, with Camby post up, they have a complete role, but again, camby is always injured, Iverson's age is catching up, Melo is volatile

Pierce has NOT been getting the support from players around him. Sad to say, but true to the fact. I dont really like him as a player, but i have to tip my hat to him, for his perseverance. This should be a breakout year for him, it will be up to Doc Rivers to play they team correctly, though i'll prefer the master zen himself to deal with such blockbuster team
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Trouble with the Zen Master, one has to wonder if he has gone soft. I doubt he would have tolerated egos bigger than him in the past. The game has changed, he hasn't and that isn't a good thing if you asked me. He couldn't handle the Fab 4 in the end.
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post Aug 19 2007, 07:48 PM

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Ex-Referee: Jordan's 1998 game 6 winning shot was a foul

Mathis referenced the pivotal shot in Game 6 of the 1998 Finals by Jordan against the Utah Jazz that gave the Bulls their sixth and final championship in the Jordan era. Many observers maintain Jordan committed an offensive foul, but it was not called because of Jordan's stature and reputation.

"Refereeing has gone downhill," said Mathis, who runs the Mathis Foundation that works with and supplies scholarships for foster kids in Cincinnati. "Remember when Jordan hit that winning shot? I'm going to give you exactly what the commentators said: 'What a great move by Michael.' Was that a great move or was that an offensive foul? There was no question it was a push-off. No buts about it. The only buts you can have is, 'Well, it was Michael Jordan.' That was a defining moment.
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Erm, i dont know about his handling of the fab 4, rather i thought it was assembled too quickly for his liking. The glove, Mailman, Kobe, and Diesel...sounds much more fantastic than it seems. But 2 of those were obsessed of the ring, not the game itself. I'm sorry to say that Kobe ain't one player that i favour in terms of his attitude. Too much distraction in the team, that the disciplined Detroit won them in finals.

Anyhow, i still favour Zen than Doc...
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post Aug 19 2007, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(-Jonathan- @ Aug 19 2007, 07:52 PM)
Erm, i dont know about his handling of the fab 4, rather i thought it was assembled too quickly for his liking. The glove, Mailman, Kobe, and Diesel...sounds much more fantastic than it seems. But 2 of those were obsessed of the ring, not the game itself. I'm sorry to say that Kobe ain't one player that i favour in terms of his attitude. Too much distraction in the team, that the disciplined Detroit won them in finals.

Anyhow, i still favour Zen than Doc...
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Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Kobe & Shaq last time they were great when in lakers.. but cant win championship..
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Malone should never have played. he f***ed his knee and was adamant to play. that caused the Lakers. As for Payton, yes, I do concur somewhat that he had been off and on but the triangle JUST DIDN'T SUIT PAYTON!

and Virgil, what Adolf trick?
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Thats why,t hat being said and done, payton and malone were there for the ring, not for the game..they ruined it entirely...it was also their presence that stirred kobe's ego..
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no at the end of the day, zen should not have played Malone. he was not fit enough nor good enough to be honest.
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post Aug 19 2007, 09:04 PM

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in those teams with ltos of great palyers doesnt seem to be able to win championships...
when heat won their team doesnt have lots of stars...
same for spurs...


Added on August 19, 2007, 9:07 pmcarmelo's game has gone down as well as iverson's...
i kinda like how pierce plays and hope to see him back in form...

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 19 2007, 08:04 PM)
Malone should never have played. he f***ed his knee and was adamant to play. that caused the Lakers. As for Payton, yes, I do concur somewhat that he had been off and on but the triangle JUST DIDN'T SUIT PAYTON!

and Virgil, what Adolf trick?
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post Aug 20 2007, 08:21 AM

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post Aug 20 2007, 12:28 PM

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Trade Kobe sooner rather than later
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It'll be interesting to see whether the Lakers are paying attention. What happened with Garnett doesn't seem to have anything to do with what L.A. is going through with the very unhappy Kobe Bryant. But it should.

Teams hate giving up their marquee-fillers, and there's no marquee man who has quite the stature of Bryant. But the Lakers, like all teams, fear the repercussions from season-ticket holders and sponsors that come with moving along a star. Every team prefers the safety of trotting out its big-name player, even if his tenure has gone stale, rather than the risk of making a deal when the dealing's good. Given their ticket and sponsorship prices, the Lakers would face a wave of negative repercussions in a post-Kobe-trade season. They know it. That's why they're not even considering Bryant deals at this point.

But if a trade becomes inevitable, as it did in Garnett's case, history shows it's better to make the deal early, before the rest of the league knows you're desperate. I know, I know -- you'd hate to see a team capitulate to a player who is under contract and ought to fulfill that contract. Bryant is a hardheaded guy, though. If he doesn't come off his trade demand, he could make life miserable for his team and as he does, his trade value will diminish. If the Lakers know he is going to stick to his demand, they'd be wise to quietly explore trade possibilities now, before it's too late.

Think about it. What did the Hornets get for Baron Davis? Speedy Claxton and Dale Davis. What did the Magic get for Tracy McGrady? Steve Francis and Cuttino Mobley. There seem to be endless examples of what happens when a team waits too long to trade its star player. The result is always the same: They get low-balled.

We saw that with Garnett this summer. If you're a Lakers fan, you have to wonder: Are we going to see it again with Bryant?
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Not a news but an opinion related to KB24.
It did made a point that Kobe's trade value will be going down with all the stalling going on.. and this will prove to be a hit to the Lakers as well, so why not trade Kobe now rather than later?!
Maybe big Phil's icarius paradox or rather Lakers' on Kobe or on the franchise is making prohibiting them from expanding.....
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I see players coming in rather than out
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post Aug 20 2007, 07:17 PM

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Kobe is a big star in the NBA. If the Lakers traded him they will lose their main attaction. He has a lot of fan and draw people to watch him play. Losing him means losing the market as well.
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If thats the point, why dont Lakers just pick all the China player and than market their team in China.

Thats not a valid point to put Kobe into perspective.

Pierce, like Kobe had to carry his team on his shoulder. Whilst Pierce game is not on Kobe's level, there is one that was. Michael Jordan had no support or whatsoever until Pippen, Rodman came into the team. Whilst patience is virtue, i dont see how a trade for Kobe coming in, who can Kobe yield back? Lebron? Wade? Melo?

Kobe is literally stuck with Lakers, at least till his early thirties come into place. Lakers need to get players in, and not the players they are getting now...they need players that can support Kobe. The hype surrounding Kobe + Odom failed to materialize, they now need a backcourt player and a post up player, good ones..than Lakers can once again challenge in the playoff
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QUOTE(caviars @ Aug 20 2007, 07:17 PM)
Kobe is a big star in the NBA. If the Lakers traded him they will lose their main attaction. He has a lot of fan and draw people to watch him play. Losing him means losing the market as well.
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Just take Minnesota for example, they have the one of the top players at their team and it is one of the reasons people are eager to watch him perform on court...
But then after stalling it for so many years and having Garnett struggling, the outcome went into a bad trade off with their biggest star.
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post Aug 20 2007, 09:06 PM

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if kobe were 2 b traded, which team will he b goin & which players will da lakers get??
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QUOTE(EroS @ Aug 20 2007, 09:06 PM)
if kobe were 2 b traded, which team will he b goin & which players will da lakers get??
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If u're gonna trade one of the most deadly finisher in the world of basketball today.
U need to get back someone with the calibre of LBJ or Wade + cash or players or draft picks.
In short, the main ingredient must be someone below 30 & is All-NBA talent.
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post Aug 21 2007, 01:11 AM

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trading kobe would be last option for lakers...
losing players like him would take years to recover with the current team...

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