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 NBA, new season will start by Oct 30, 2007

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evofantasy
post Aug 18 2007, 06:12 PM

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garnett is all star material but i agree allen aint...
celtics being the first season together wont win this season...
no chemistry and stuffs...
basketball is a teamplay game after all...

jz like rockets last time...
big names but injury and miscomunication...
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post Aug 18 2007, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 18 2007, 06:12 PM)
garnett is all star material but i agree allen aint...
celtics being the first season together wont win this season...
no chemistry and stuffs...
basketball is a teamplay game after all...

jz like rockets last time...
big names but injury and miscomunication...
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If someone like Dwayne Wade could bring the magic, I don't see why KG can't. Don't get me wrong, I believe the starting team of the Celtics can be world beaters. They have 82 games find chemistry but I just don't see them having enough gas to last the marathon.


Added on August 18, 2007, 6:39 pmAnd I don't see Yao as a great player. You talk about him being double teamed and triple teamed but great players get past that, don't they? I find him lethargic in NBA pace.

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post Aug 18 2007, 08:03 PM

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kobe, you are going on with the yao debate again haha...it's been going on for a few months now. Agreed that his gameplay sometimes makes things debilitating on our point of view. I mean, 7'6 shot blocked by a short Nate Robinson doesn't really make him stellar. Voted #1 for the NBA all star mainly because of the national's backing doesn't make him good, but the fact that he can average a 20/10/2 (nearly on those 3 categories), he can be given at least some credentials can't he? Overrated true, but thats because of the hype that surrounds him. I mean, hes not a defensive force, but hes proven to be of some use in the team....i am also trying not to bash him anymore...

True to the fact that the team of Celtic might not win the championship, but i dare put some bet that they might be near contenders. They've got the perfect team (if you look at the players role in previous teams).
If the rocket team your talking about (Evofantasy), was the 1996 year, when they acquired Charles Barkley to top with Clyde the Glide, and Hakeem, its true to a certain extend. But understanding that Barkley and Hakeem's game are near similar, comparisons cannot be drawn in this situation. I'm liking the prospect of the game for Celtic. Yea true they lost a pure forward, young and powerful in Al Jefferson, KG will be post up, and he can shoot. Add Pierce to the equation, who can play outside, inside, penetrate, and Allen, who is of the best shooter in the league, teams will have trouble defending against them. Its going to be a high scoring team, the only thing i am seein a loophole would be their defence.

Nevertheless, the statement to say that Allen is not all star material makes me contradict. He's not stellar, not a performer, but hes someone that can deliver. Hes been in the all star team 7 times, and his stats, though very "point" based, hes proven to be a very technical guard. He is the typical shooting guard. Get ball, shoot. And he's doing it good. Averaging 20 ppg in his career, thats a good statement to put on his resume.

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About Yao, statistics don't lie but liars use statistics. I am not saying Yao isn't a good player but it takes more than stats to judge him. I think we need to see him play to be honest. I mean Yao could be raking in points when the game is over (when Rockets have lost or won already but him still in it against second team) and he could be monster against small teams but whimper against giants. I am sorry, he is to prone to foul trouble and when he is not, he doesn't deliver.

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One thing about Yao, he has much improve and that is a lot for a big man to lose his pose to the Marbury during his early years doh.gif
I think his shots are better than the average player.
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good player but by all means, not great. starting centre at the all stars? now Garnett is gone, well yeah tongue.gif but otherwise not deserving.
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post Aug 18 2007, 09:33 PM

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2 more months till start of new season.. alot of teams 2 watch out 4.. particularly Boston, Portland, Seattle, Lakers, Phoenix, Heat.. nod.gif
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post Aug 18 2007, 10:58 PM

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yao is an offensive center so arguements like he cant defend liek other centers is wrong...
yao is good the way he draws double team and scoring high in games (for a center) though i dun see him really that GOOD as hyped...
he's kidna balance with the only downside is foul troubles...
to me yao is like the overhyped kidd who excels in several points and not in one field that steal the spotlight...

well scoring isnt anything and compared to many in his position these days allen isnt among the league of all stars...
all stars palyers are players which excels and not those average palyers after all...

i still think boston is overrated with fans of the old boston dynasty having too high expectations for the team...
they are a big contender but i dun see them winning this season compared to experienced teams like spurs...

wade is what i would call silent killer where no one would expect him to be that good and thus his performance inspire those around him in miami...
garnett is already tried and known besides his games has been going down a little (due to his old team)...
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QUOTE(EroS @ Aug 18 2007, 09:33 PM)
2 more months till start of new season.. alot of teams 2 watch out 4.. particularly Boston, Portland, Seattle, Lakers, Phoenix, Heat.. nod.gif
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I think i will only be eye-ing the Celtics and the Lakers.....
For Seattle, i definitely wont be watching their games despite having Durant there because there are more regular players who are so much better to look at compared to Durant. I would rather watch Kobe with his clutch rather than Durant ....
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I fear for Durant to be honest. I think good draft picks need to be in a good team as well. Look at Okafor. I thought he was brilliant in his rookie season, not brilliant brilliant but brilliant tongue.gif

As for Yao, say what you want about two types of centres, I don't care. A good player should do it both ways. Kobe is good defensively as he is offensively. trying to justify his defensive frailties because of his "attack mindedness" is rubbish if you were to ask me.
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as usual i will still eyeing on the bulls tongue.gif

and celtics, rockets. portland. smile.gif
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Oden FTW!!

Dallas, Celtics, Lakers (my team) and Suns
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QUOTE(jayhan @ Aug 18 2007, 11:27 PM)
as usual i will still eyeing on the bulls tongue.gif

and celtics, rockets. portland. smile.gif
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No love for the Lakers?! brows.gif
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Actually as a neutral, what is it in the Lakers do you see that I myself as a fan don't?

Odom is a good player but not one that can take LA to the next level. Kobe is Kobe as usual. Bynum? He needs to improve A LOT. Too much in foul trouble to be even a bench player!

Mihm? I don't see him as a star but I would like to see what Radmanovic and Sasha can offer though. If anyone thinks Derek is all they need, they need to get stoned. If Gasol is anything like Paul then we can be optimistic D
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post Aug 19 2007, 12:48 AM

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my next season top picks would be dallas, pheonix, bulls (lots of potential), cavaliers and of course spurs...
i hope nets would be in the list but the trades doesnt impress me unless kidd is on fire and carter would be his old self scoring machine...
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Net had their time of mending, the hype surrounding the trio of Kidd, Carter and Jefferson just died off. They might have the scoring prowess but lack the defensive fluid. Their C would need to buck up

I dont see why lakers should be the team to look out for...i just dont. Kobe can win a game single handedly, but how many times can he do it. 6 ? 8? 12? Games can be so tiring, and with the rate Kobe is going, the knee will give way anytime soon.

So much love for Oden eh ? Oden's a great player,saw some of his clips, great defensive player that is. Easily one of the greater ones in the league. But i was horrified with his foul rate during the pre-season...Portland's definitely the one for the future. If they can help Oden carry the load offensively, portland might be the darkhorses in the new season. Brandon Roy + Jarrett Jack and there is the one that can be as volatile as ever, Darius Miles..

Like i say, the debacle on Yao has gone from the first post all the way here, where kobe has really put a nail into the coffin. The statement
"statistics don't lie but liars use statistics" really brings back memories.

Anyhow...everyone has their fair point of view on Yao. I would have give him a breather. Houston can survive without him, but with him, Houston are better. T-Mac + Mutombo would do well as well, but Yao does have his advantage. Admittedly, his game play sucks to a certain extend, no defence slow etc etc, but he is excelling well...comparatively to other big men...comparatively tongue.gif

Personally, i would like to see how far Boston can go...and my support will be to Portland and Bulls...i love Washington, but they have been nothing short of sh*t lately
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4 lakers, im eyeing on Kobe & da rookie Javaris.. still no info on da rookie from china Sun Yue.. flex.gif mostly every1 is eyeing on Boston & Kobe.. laugh.gif
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Boston are exciting but by no means a championship contending team. I am sorry but as I have said, Pierce is as good as he could have been. He's one the downward spiral from few seasons back. When Walker-Pierce ended, Pierce ended with it. The Renaissance of Pierce? My yellow arse. So for me, Pierce will and should probably be the leader of the second stringers but I do not see that happening simply because Pierce is Pierce, a name with a big reputation. Seeing Celtics go all the way for Miller shows unbelievable signs of desperation. 7 for 1 trade showed INTENT but by no means are the Celtics a championship contending team.

BTW, good to see you back Johnathan smile.gif
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post Aug 19 2007, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 19 2007, 10:28 AM)
Boston are exciting but by no means a championship contending team. I am sorry but as I have said, Pierce is as good as he could have been. He's one the downward spiral from few seasons back. When Walker-Pierce ended, Pierce ended with it. The Renaissance of Pierce? My yellow arse. So for me, Pierce will and should probably be the leader of the second stringers but I do not see that happening simply because Pierce is Pierce, a name with a big reputation. Seeing Celtics go all the way for Miller shows unbelievable signs of desperation. 7 for 1 trade showed INTENT but by no means are the Celtics a championship contending team.

BTW, good to see you back Johnathan smile.gif
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ofcourse they wont b able 2 win da title.. but just wanna c how far boston can go wit their roster..



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The Forgotten Man?

A lot has been said and written about the additions of Kobe Bryant, Jason Kidd and Chauncey Billups to Team USA this summer. Amare Stoudemire is also a big (literally and figuratively) addition, as he's fully healthy this time around. And there's always hype surrounding LeBron James, who is coming off his first trip to the NBA Finals.

But let us not overlook the man who was Team USA's best player when they won the bronze medal at last year's World Championships.

While Kidd is the leader and floor general, Bryant is the go-to scorer down the stretch and LeBron is the runaway train on the break, Carmelo Anthony's role might be as or more important than all of them.

Throughout the first three practices of this second session of training camp, Coach Mike Krzyzewski has had a primary lineup of Kidd, Bryant, James, Anthony and Stoudemire. He has said that it won't be his only starting lineup, but it's safe to say that Anthony will spend a lot of time playing the power forward position.

That means that he will be asked to bang with the big guys, rebound and defend the paint. It's not the same role that he plays on the Nuggets for sure, when he plays alongside Marcus Camby and Nenê. Bryant though, believes that Anthony can handle the role just fine.
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2b truthful, i think he is really been 4gotten.. every1 remember LeBron.. last season melo was lucky 2 b included in all star game & have iverson along side him..

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