Looooool u wot m8? Have u ever even seen me in real life? Lmao someone gt jelly. At least im more fit than fat slob u talking so much shit and perhaps outside wearing clothes that can see ur flip tyre lol.

I kinda agree with you bro, when he build up his muscle doesn't mean he can be *sshole to everyone... Btw for fat burner maybe can try out Grenade Thermo.

Thanks bro 😁

Wow.... Congratulating oneself for being an asshole. Muahahahahaha

Who cares? Did i lift to impress just by your comment and these threads? Lmao what a waste by someone fat slob

Don't marah people lah, Giving advise is okay but don't give sarcastic reply lah.

Thank you. I have actually read the stickies just now, I am supposed to be sleeping but since I am quite overwhelmed with other activities and jobs, barely got time to do so. Which is why I am still awake now.

Ok, I understand your answer about no need for whey protein and go for macros.


This is exactly what I am following actually haha.

My current objective is simple, I am a foodie, so i am born to eat. I don't like been restricted down to anything. Yea, I also lazy to calculate calories

So, for some reason.. i figured that if I eat a lot for my brunch, and just have light meal for dinner like milo with biscuits (yea, i knew all these sugary biscuits got lots of calories) , then I will slim down.

And since 2016 , I had slimmed down a lot. From 89kg to 77kg and everyone noticed i had slimmed down. That's why the makcik sell rice for me, shocked and wondered how i slimmed down, because she saw me ate a lot in lunch. Even my colleagues also was like, Mas, you eat a lot .

My size is quite similar to this dude. Before and After.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=86171228


Few months ago, I began to go gym. Now my aim is to maintain my way of eating but to continue to slim down by increasing activities, I got my exercises from my karate training. So I wanna tone up my muscle (opps into the muscle toning topic, but it's necessary for me to explain) .

My idea is, increase muscle mass equals to burn more calories. Burn more calories equals to slimming down.

Now the problem is, when i heard the thingy called fat burner, i was interested. Because I want to burn the fat down faster since I am toning my muscle. Got abs.. got nice figure, who don't want?

Then, the side effect seem to be a lot. There are a lot of different kinds and fat burner is to increase metabolism and can be very heaty.

SO when fat burner out, next thing in the list is Whey Protein.

This is because I noticed even though I have been going to gym, i found that my muscle seem to be take more time to tone up. Even my friend said that. Hence he suggested whey protein to expedite the toning process.

I figure if it can expedite means it increase the muscle mass faster hence burn calories faster and so on.

So now I understand where you coming from

Additional calories will be converted into fats. So if didn't do macros and consume whey may eventually lead to increase of calories intake which resulted having the opposite effect from my initial goal.

By the way, when you said you got those 6 packs , without doing any abs related exercise, is it nicely toned 6 packs? Or just like everyone else.. got 6 packs visible on the tummy but yea .. just like that . My apology for going out from the topic but since we are here , might as well just ask.

Conclusion, tomorrow I will explore myfitness apps. I had done the IIFYM thingy. I chose I work as those office job (which I am but I also went to meet clients sometime and need to carry heavy boxes.)

Protein Grams: 146
Fat Grams: 68
Carbs Grams: 174
Fiber Grams: 25-34

When all of these macros are added up, you get a total of 1893 calories.

These calories are based on your personal TDEE, which the IIFYM Calculator estimated at 2227



thank you. Currently decided not to go for fat burner, don't like its side effect haha.

Nevertheless, thank you everyone who had contributed to this thread.

No you have no macros set up before this and you are eating main bantai, so no, you do not follow macros.

I am a foodie too and I do not deprive myself from anything or any occasion. I simply adjust. If you are lazy to calculate then just stay where you are. I don't think you understand the underlaying problem that you are facing now when you are fat and wanting to loose. Hey, I was fat and short once before. I know what went wrong, and calculated the wrong calories was my mistake.

Your brunch and you snack might be well over your TDEE. How to loose if like that? Remember, we are the fat ones. Fat ones do not have the luxury of getting away with eating crap and keep loosing.

Muscles take years to build. Fats take weeks to loose. And supplement stays as supplement, not food. If you do not know what you are eating and how much you are eating, why supplement? Don't waste money. Keep those money to buy food. And your friend's advice has become rubbish at the wrong time.

1 serving of whey is 120kcal. 1 pcs of oreo is 40. 3 oreos is 120. So no, if your diet is like shit, whey is the least likely thing to add to your damage.

My 1st set of abs, with no direct work.

Nice payout at the end

most people just don't have the patience for the result to show
and think they are some secret that are keep by fit people
beside steroid use

try Duromine...works for me...from 97kg now 62-64kg (depend on my cheese and milk intake)..maintained it for past 1 year, with regular exercise n i still eat everything that i like, eg, cheese,steak..but in small portion..

Dont bother trying duromine, it works only on certain ppl.. duromine is like ICE / METH, you cant sleep and when u dont take the pills anymore.. your body will go overdrive.. you will feel restless, tired, feeling sick.. moody.. depress.. not too mention, whack any food u can see non stop..

Just get Grenade Black ops. and do HIIT training, drink lots of water... or if u want to get results faster, start with the SARMS triple stack - GW 501516 / MK 2886 / S4. You will need to be VERY VERY VERY discipline in your 3 months diet.

Thank you very much.

Although I can't say I 100% understand you but I roughly get your point. I will look into Macros and TDEE.

And, that's really very inspiring. Happy to see that. Nice body figure you have

I shall close this thread now.

Thank you everyone