Karate and Gym. Going into swimming ASAP.

No supplements.

Nutrition? No also. Eat economy rice? Mostly I will opt for Chicken Breast and egg in every lunch. At night I drink Milo and eat some light biscuits mostly. Hence, I am slimming down

Feel like wanna speed up the process.

Yohimbe can get at lelong

clenbuterol not easily find, need prescription

others not effective

prepare for heart pain  :furious2:

must also with strict diet and exercise

Isn't that steroids? Why kill your body long term over short term goal achievement? If you aim is to be healthy, I'd suggest to stay away from these kind of fat burners which may cause long term side effects.

I see. Then how about Whey Protein?
I didn't realized that
Thank you for the input

Thank you so much to all of you as well

my friend recommended me the whey because he said muscle need protein, so better to consume just 1 spoon of whey after work out

Let me make it really easy for you.

1. Purpose

The purpose is pretty clear cut, I wanted to know whether there are people who have experienced with fat burner or not. Because I am thinking to consume it to expedite my fat loss goal.

2. Why from Fat Burner to Whey?
Since we are discussing about fat burner which is a supplement, of course it will lead to Whey, because besides discussing here, definitely I also discussed with my friend about it. Fat burner, Whey and Amino Acid.

3. You just pointed it out yourself very frankly.

You said it was wasting time to follow my so called "Friend" advice. Now I tell you this right on you, without opening this thread, I will not realize this.

So now see the purpose of this thread.

It will not lead to how to build tone muscle, because it's not part of the subject. Supplement.

Note: You have contributed nothing in this thread. I didn't realize it because of you. It was because of other helpful forumers which I am grateful and really appreciate their efforts.

Particularly lingleeyen.
Just because you working out and knew something more than me. You don't need to be a jerk and come here bossing around. You are also a beginner and dunno nothing before. Don't need to go that low.

Ok, I understand your answer about no need for whey protein and go for macros.
This is exactly what I am following actually haha.

My current objective is simple, I am a foodie, so i am born to eat. I don't like been restricted down to anything. Yea, I also lazy to calculate calories

So, for some reason.. i figured that if I eat a lot for my brunch, and just have light meal for dinner like milo with biscuits (yea, i knew all these sugary biscuits got lots of calories) , then I will slim down.

This is because I noticed even though I have been going to gym, i found that my muscle seem to be take more time to tone up. Even my friend said that. Hence he suggested whey protein to expedite the toning process.

Additional calories will be converted into fats. So if didn't do macros and consume whey may eventually lead to increase of calories intake which resulted having the opposite effect from my initial goal.

By the way, when you said you got those 6 packs , without doing any abs related exercise, is it nicely toned 6 packs? Or just like everyone else.. got 6 packs visible on the tummy but yea .. just like that . My apology for going out from the topic but since we are here , might as well just ask.