If I read it right? Why is clen in the pic?

Isn't that steroids? Why kill your body long term over short term goal achievement? If you aim is to be healthy, I'd suggest to stay away from these kind of fat burners which may cause long term side effects.

I heard instead of fat burner they using SARM S4 andarine for fat loss, anyone can clarify that that product is safe? correct me if I'm wrong.

My image of fat burner are those rubbish fat burners on tv ad saying no need to do amything shed 50kg of fats. Not roids. Hence I asked why he put clen into the discussion.

But Clen doesn't claim that though

Milo has high calorie leh

He want some help, I give some advice
but it just help to pump your metabolic rate

nothing beat diet and exercise




RIP to piana

Fat burner doesn't burn fat.
It just increases your metabolism.

TS should already close this thread since he gt his answer

I would suggest to sstay away form supplements unless you are following a stright diet/exercise regime. I mean, taking ine or two supplements (whatever they are) but still not having ur nutrition or excercicse in place leads nowhere. But if u have no option, intead of supplement I woul recommend something more natural. Such as Apple cider vinegar in water before meals, Or Macca and Spirulina powder.

I see. Then how about Whey Protein?

I didn't realized that

Thank you for the input

Thank you so much to all of you as well

When you do not even know the calories in your milo, you do not need whey.

my friend recommended me the whey because he said muscle need protein, so better to consume just 1 spoon of whey after work out

As I said, if you do not know your macros, you do not know how much extra u need to supplement. A scoop of 20-25g protein from whey wont do you benefit if other stuff you eat is...unknown of their macros.

Zzzzz and thread goes on again.

Ok, that's really interesting view on this. Thank you on that. I will look into this

Are you trying to increase your post count or what?

You are literally spamming in this thread and provide nothing useful to other users.

This post has been edited by MasBoleh!: Sep 13 2017, 01:43 AM

Oh really? Then let me ask you and your purpose of creating this thread? Do u know what u are doing? Ur just wasting ur time following ur so called friend advice have to take whey after workout lmao.

The irony of asking for fat burner now whey? What's next?
How to build tone muscle?

Let me make it really easy for you.

1. Purpose

The purpose is pretty clear cut, I wanted to know whether there are people who have experienced with fat burner or not. Because I am thinking to consume it to expedite my fat loss goal.

2. Why from Fat Burner to Whey?
Since we are discussing about fat burner which is a supplement, of course it will lead to Whey, because besides discussing here, definitely I also discussed with my friend about it. Fat burner, Whey and Amino Acid.

3. You just pointed it out yourself very frankly.

You said it was wasting time to follow my so called "Friend" advice. Now I tell you this right on you, without opening this thread, I will not realize this.

So now see the purpose of this thread.

It will not lead to how to build tone muscle, because it's not part of the subject. Supplement.

Note: You have contributed nothing in this thread. I didn't realize it because of you. It was because of other helpful forumers which I am grateful and really appreciate their efforts.

Particularly lingleeyen.


Just because you working out and knew something more than me. You don't need to be a jerk and come here bossing around. You are also a beginner and dunno nothing before. Don't need to go that low.

^ this ftw. Ignore the guy la, just because he thought he was good he can simply jump on ppl. Says alot abt his attitude. I have to give credit though, he looks good with 6 pack abs, BUT only when he's nekked. With clothes on, he doesn't look like he lifts.

Enough of rant, please read up on the foundation of weight loss, here are some pointers to Google: caloric deficit, tdee, setting up macros ratio.

If you are serious, go read stickies. I really don't wanna repwat what is already there.