Couldn't wait myself and bought a java pro 3 in d end...
Grey with yellow colour...
Initial ride was okok only,feels the bike not that fast...
Maybe is because my weight,and too long nv cycle and exercise...
Will train myself to cycle start from around 1 hr per day,till my stamina is stable den maybe will join group cycle...

Btw,is it normal for folding bike to have some ding ding,like brake cable hitting body sound,or some metal to metal hitting...
And ngek ngek ngek like d body kena bend sound with folding bike?
Both not alwaz,jz sometimes,maybe going over bumps...

I am 90++ kg...
178cm...
Maybe i nv reali get into folding bike before,jz tried a few times with short period...
Slow is like 1 paddle round is shorter compare to bigger bike,maybe still haven't biasa...

Ok bro,lube with wd40?
Or other type of oil?

Thanks again. I will hold on the drivetrain upgrades for now and focus more on the little things that matter. Better pedals (current plastic foldable ones are slippery and they look like they're about to break anytime), more comfy saddles, stronger brake levers etc etc.

Hey guys wta anyone have experience from riding a cheap bike then upgraded to a expensive bike like Brompton??

My neighbor who is moving state gave me his folding bike Oscar Imagine, i wanted to give him rm200 but he refused to except any money for it bcs he said he bought it for a few hundred only.

So i have been riding this Oscar Imagine bike for the past 2 weeks and this is my first bike own. I just seriously want to know what i am missing out on from this bike that i could get from a Brompton??

I am a fan of Brompton but besides the sexy design i really don't know how much better performance it is compare to this cheap Oscar Imagine bike. Can sifu please tell the advantages of expensive bike compare to my cheap bike besides the design la???

Forget about Brompton, get a Dahon Curl i4 for RM4,200. Later upgrade to Rohloff 11 spd, no other bikes can come close to you. Just a suggestion.

Happy riding.

This is an extract from comment by a KL rider who owns 2 Brompton bikes and a Dahon Curl bike.

"I have both bike. Both are good in their own way.
Brompton still fold better/smoother then Curl. You can feel the thoughtfulness on how each step it fold and lock to each other. Where else, Curl still have much to learn. There are places you need extra care as not to scratch the frame.
Brompton lock the folk on the rear triangle and Curl lock it on the rear derailleur hanger. I see it as a weak point on Curl that it might break the rear derailleur hanger when transported in as check in luggage. So extra care have to be given to this area.
Built quality on both bikes are very good. Brompton use brazing technique to put the frame together and it is wonderfully braze together. My Brompton raw lacquer are one marvelous piece of art of brazing. It is hand brazen, not by machine.
Where else Curl are using machinery to weld the aluminum frame together. Not much hype on it but it does it very smoothly on every joint.
Now, let’s talk about handling. I’m very surprised how Curl handling is. Very smooth and it absorbs most rough surface very well despite it doesn’t have a suspension block like Brompton. Although Curl uses aluminum  rather then steel but I still find it more comfortable on Curl than a Brompton.
Curl cockpit area are bigger than Brompton. That means my knee on Curl are further away from the handlebar than a Brompton. Your body will bend more on curl than a Brompton.
On gearing wise, Curl uses a standard  rear of 135mm and you fit in any internal hub you like. Where else, Brompton only able to use Sturney Archer hub. It’s 6 speed 2X3 are slightly complicated and need some time to getting used to but eventually it works quite well after a while. Although you will always feel the ratio is too wide apart.
As we know Curl are new in the market, you will get less people, less hype then a Brompton.
Brompton have tons of accessories on bags and upgrades then in Curl.
It really depends on what you want from your bike. "

If you want speed, do not get the brompton. It is not designed to go fast. It's best ridden with leisure speed. But what it does best is it fold compactly. Built quality is top notch.

Here's a suggestion, just ride your cheap bike first lah. Ride it as often as possible. So at the same time, you're also upgrading your engine. When you think it's necessary, you can upgrade the groupset and wheelset first. If in the future, you decided that u had enough with your cheap bike, then change bike lor. The thing with the more expensive bike (dahon/tern/bf/etc) is, they produce better frame, but sell it with an inferior components. So by then, you can transfer your previous components from your cheap bike to your new one.

My cheap upgraded cap ayam bike is way lighter and faster than my dahon. Last night, it managed to achieve top speed of 60kmh (descend lah ) and last week it achieved average of 30kmh on a 70km ride. but the thing with that bike is, it flex like crazy as well. In fact, the flex is so annoying that sometimes i think that i want to go buy another frame on the spot. Haha..Ride quality between those 2 bikes? Massive difference. If im forced to choose one, i'd still keep the dahon. So, i hope you get the general idea.

Generally, folding bikes are not designed for speed. But with some mods, and better fitness level, it can be made to move faster. Since you are just venturing into the cycling scene, best is to keep pedalling to improve your fitness. Mods when you think it's necessary. Try finding a cycling groups and start from there. Better get the santai2 one first. When you think your fitness is getting better, try cycling with a faster group. You'll improve your speed for sure. Im sure, by that time, you'll already know what necessary mod (or bikes) that may suit your need.

Here's my cap ayam bike.

does anyone know whether there are 20" trainer tyres 451 in the market?

1000km is easily an achievable mileage in a year, even for someone new. Before we know it, time flies by so fast for us to even notice it. So one year is not that long of a period.

I made a rookie mistake when i started getting into cycling. Groupset and wheelset were upgraded within a month after buying the bike, after reading online. What i realised later, no matter what people recommend, may not suit my needs. It may suits them alright though. So there's no right or wrong here, just highly depends on what suits us better.

Luckily i managed to sell those stuff at minimal loss, and change to the one that im more comfortable using.