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KenC
post Mar 7 2018, 08:45 PM

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Almost every local bike shop towkay told me 80%of their revenue come from sub 500 bicycle of every type…
If relying on high end bike, long time ago close shop ada… ohmy.gif

Highlight "revenue" not volume. Ok?

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post Mar 7 2018, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Mar 7 2018, 02:08 PM)
Buying a bike for its frame is the best option for those who dislike the standard components. As you will be stripping out those components anyway, I'd buy a secondhand one. Why? Unlikely you'd be able to sell the low spec components anyway so why pay for something you will not use?

Sure, there will be scratches here and there, unless they are real bad, but you can negotiate the price down. I have in the past managed to get Ultegra staff secondhand as well, low kms, so all up you end up with a very nice bike.

KenC's suggestions may suit him but not to most of us. I can't see the point with buying a cheap bike
to upgrade or actually building one from scratch. Maybe he has very good design and welding skills, which is great. But even so, what do you have at the end of the day? A unique bike only suitable to oneself. I'd much prefer one that has a wider pool of potential buyers so it will retain some value.

At the end of the day, we can discuss as much as we like, some comments will appeal to some but not others, vise versa.
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You spend all those money on a bike so that it suit others? Not to suit you?
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post Mar 7 2018, 10:44 PM

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Exactly, hence info on cheap bike even more crucial!.

I totally agree very few stick to cycling after a year. More the reason to get a junk bike as the 1st bike.

But I do hope in that 1 year, they manage to "service" their health. Like I did.
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post Mar 8 2018, 09:28 PM

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"service" health means the persons health, not about the bike mod or maintenance.
I am talking about the 1st bike. Buy better (anything will be better) after you destroy the 1st bike. You should know what you want by then...
Actually, poor road handling skill, ride into pot hole at high enough speed, Land Rover oso can break the tayar...
I would say lucky the bike is cheap, if broken collar bone + broken expensive bike lagi pedeh…
Btw, split fork very common on very expensive carbon fork too…

The wheel size choice isn't crucial in distance. 60km most ppl cam do under 4 hours, 5hour guarantee can complete. The terrain has more concern. Usually small wheels are good for hills, road bike are good for very flat and long and boring rides.

Ya, buy expensive bike is not a sin, instead buying an expensive 1st bike shows you are rich and can tahan waste money. Absolutely not a sin.

It's only my 2 cent, you don't have to agree with me.

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post Mar 8 2018, 09:35 PM

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Rust, water + besi = rust.
Keep your bike dry after ride.
Air spin your rear wheel will keep your chain dry. Wipe down the non-painted parts such as the chain and chainring and cassette and places where the paint were damaged.
I hate oil lube, it makes my bike dirty. Road dirt love to stick on oily bike… hack, even oilless bike oso cover by road dust…

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post Mar 8 2018, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Mar 7 2018, 09:51 PM)
What to do? I can't weld like you can...  laugh.gif

Mine are all the common variety, not one-off handmade masterpieces.
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30+ years ago I also don't know how to weld. 45 years ago I also don't know how to ride bike...

Birdy, bike Friday common variety? Phew… it's like saying buying a TIG welding set is expensive.
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post Mar 8 2018, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(gck @ Mar 8 2018, 10:42 AM)
Ok, here is the deal, I got a few folding bikes at home, if you can come over, i am willing to let u test it out.
From 16 to 18 to 20..then u decide from there which one u like.
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This is by far the most constructive post. smile.gif
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post Mar 9 2018, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Mar 9 2018, 05:35 AM)
Hey, you are the one suggesting that unless I build my own unique bike, everything else wouldn't have been made to suit me! Lol

As you have made it all sound so easy, how about you building one from scratch and sharing with us here? It will be very helpful and would show the rest of us why we are wasting money buying good bikes?

Sure, TIG welding set would be cheaper, but it would be as useful as a bull with tits to the rest of us.
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Its easy… I won't learn anything new doing it. Moreover I has so many hobbies to waste my time on…
You got me wrong… in straight simple language
Buying a good bike is not a waste. Buying expensive bike is a waste.
Good does not mean expensive, expensive don't guarantee good.... an old Chinese saying
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post Mar 9 2018, 11:16 AM

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I would like to clarify that I advocate a dirt cheap FIRST bike. After that buy anything that you want with the knowledge and experience from the dirt cheap bicycle-like-object.

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post Mar 9 2018, 12:39 PM

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Exactly! My 1st bike advice is get a cheapskate bike. Nothing more nothing less.
Bike building is another very expensive hobby, sure you want to start?
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post Mar 9 2018, 07:11 PM

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Hobby wheregot cheap one. I ask Desaster to build his own because nothing seems to satisfy him. As for me, i very easy satisfy wan.
Also if you build your own bike the material is very cheap, it's the equipment and learning curve that is expensive. Moreover once you start building, I bet you won't stop building even when you run out of space.
Yes, I am showing off how to disregard peer pressure and stay happy.

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post Mar 9 2018, 07:20 PM

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I am still here out of the love of recreational cycling. Great way to "service" your health. Also great for mental health. I really benefited from it, hence would do my best to promote this sport.
Making cycling an elite club (a la golfing) is detrimental to the sport, hence do my best to demystify bicycle snake oil.
Its a lovely sport, everyone should give it a go. And a 350buck bicycle-like-object is a great starting point. Spent to your hear content after you destroy the 1st bike.

Ps, I don't wear spendek,padded pant, clip shoes…
My favorite attire is slippers, singlet and badminton shorts.
Helmet is a must laaaa try my best to go slower than 20km/H for safety....

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post Mar 10 2018, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(jimmyyap03 @ Mar 10 2018, 10:47 AM)
I having an issue after 9months ride on folding,  wonder jump to roadbike for longer distance ride.  Will it be good choice on it? Currently owned java Tt as started bike earlier,  will you all recommend to upgrade folding instead of roadbike for distance cycling
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As long as you are happy. U like Foldies, stick to Foldies, if you think RB better, go RB… If both you like, get both… no need ask for opinion wan. Unless not your money, than you ask the one who is paying.

How long do you consider long distance?

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post Mar 10 2018, 09:01 PM

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Under 200km, small wheel can la, above 200km, what bike oso painful…
60km is a nice distance, not too long, not too short. Small wheel sap sap sui only wink.gif still need training la.
IMHO, if one can do 60km in a day, your health is not bad. Keep it up!
90~120km is the best mid distance cycling. But you must commit time for training until you get there. Once you can do this distance, you will feel very healthy and confident.
*Ps, the last 20km seems like forever…


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post Mar 10 2018, 09:37 PM

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Moulton are meant for 40kmh.
Seriously, why would anyone expect a foldie to do everything a RB cando (and better) but nobody expect to fold a RB?

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post Mar 10 2018, 09:41 PM

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Ride as fast as you possibly can while you are still young and agile. once you get as oldas iI am… it very difficult to ride over 25km/h average speed sad.gif
Can only go faster than 25km/h on downhill… since I am big and heavy, highest I managed on 451 was 60kmh… downhill
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post Mar 11 2018, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Mar 11 2018, 08:50 AM)
Not sure who gave you the impression that Moultons are meant for 40kmh. That speed is an effort even for RBs. We all know it, so let's cut the BS. Sure, 40kmh no problems, but in reality how long can you sustain that for? Sure, there'll be some who can do it, but for most?

Moultons are generally heavy and with the smaller wheels, I'd take my RB anytime. I did not enjoy mine, hence sold it.
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Alex Moulton do holds a land speed record...
Btw, I was being sarcastic. Why don't we ask why RB cannot fold...

40kmh realm with Foldies is doable, my 14 and 16 year old nieces can do that speed for 30km or so on small wheel.
Would be a waste of effort for me to attempt > 22kmh average speed.
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post Mar 11 2018, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(gataddhin @ Mar 11 2018, 11:17 AM)
Just curious, anyone here wrap his new bike with protection film? Any shops are giving this wrapping service?

I read some shops in Thailand are providing wrapping service.

By the way, I just completed wrapping film for my new bike.
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Very common here. But I don't film on my chap ayam… it seem logical not to do on cheapskate bike… tongue.gif

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post Mar 11 2018, 09:24 PM

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Look at it at another perspective, you get same workout with shorter distance and slower means safer… tongue.gif
Yes, it hard to find >30km route around my house, i got bored of driving to places to ride, after ride still need to drive is so dreadful…

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post Mar 12 2018, 02:42 AM

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But so many asking a small wheel recreational FB to beat RB in every aspect at a fraction of RB price… why ah?

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