Jesus!.....jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus.............jeeeeeeeesus...

I'm not christian btw...lol!.But my heaviest i ever pulled was 80 lbs.You're a monster.Are you going to compete in june/july??

Haha.. Agreed thats some serious weight! Man ofcos you need straps! I cant row 225 without a strap.... Damm ashamed

One thing you gotta realize that genetics play a huge role here. It could be you might be the opposite of me in that department. You have strong bodyparts where i'm lacking and i have bodyparts which are strong where you're lacking. That's why pretty few people can compete and even fewer make it to the pro ranks, we're talking about crazy mofos like Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman whose genetics are PERFECT.

Lol... the 2 of you. So what if that's some serious weight? As my post above, we're talking about genetics here. And i lift what i say i lift, because i have vids of me military pressing, benching, deadlifting etc, but for all the strength i have, i've got no damn BICEPS. No peak, nothing. And i'm talking about me barbell curling 50 kgs for 3 reps (and yes, i do high rep curling too, i just tried doing it for fun to see how much i can curl). I've done it all, you name it, preacher curls, concentrations, Scott, hammer, spider curls, whatever, my peaks don't come up, period. 17 inch bloody arms but mostly tricep. Terry Gallyot told me if you don't have a peak, you don't have a peak. Sigh... it was hard even bringing my lats up like this, but i've never had probs with chest and quads.

Talking bout Jay doubt if he deserved the Sandow.. Am thinking the judges were just going along the hype! Nice guy thou! Anyway not my standard to opiniate on that haha so just leave it alone! Darklight ya I agree on your point of genetic.. I am trying to bring up my biceps brachii but not the brachialis and brachiradialis atm so as to bring up the peak! Well.. Giving a try... So atm work more on bb curls while droppin hammer curls! Doing some Reverse curl though for the forearms! Just my experiment..

This post has been edited by free_enuf: Apr 5 2007, 03:00 AM

Bloody hell, i was so pissed off when Ronnie lost. I know some bb.com members actually cried. Lol! Jay looks liek a damn fridge alright? Too blocky.

Ronnie is the man, but i gotta admit his injuries were glaringly obvious to get away with it. His left tri and right lat.

Hammer curls, yeah to bring up the brachs to give illusion of a peak right? Tried them, didn't do jackshit for me. I'm thinking of doing weighted jerk offs if all else fails.

Hey I thought it was left tri and left lat? Anyway Ron's Glutes were still killers! Damm they looked like butterfly spreading wings to me!

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Added on April 5, 2007, 3:13 amMan you reverse interpreted my idea!Am dropping hammer atm cos it works the Brachioradialis and Brachialis which span the elbow joint.. While the Biceps brachii is mainly for peak, worked by underhand curls.. Haha time to revise Netter huh... Kidding kidding


This post has been edited by free_enuf: Apr 5 2007, 03:13 AM

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I thought you were advising me about me getting bicep peaks.

And yeah, Ronnie's left tri and left lat. My mistake.

Hey bro why dun you post some progress pics? Must be damm ground shocking!

I've posted so many already. Lazy to post some more. Lemme look'em up. Should be in my recent posting history.

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Added on April 5, 2007, 3:36 amSent you a pm. Did you get it?

This post has been edited by darklight79: Apr 5 2007, 03:36 AM

Haha just got the second PM. Was thinking why were you linking me back here lol!

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Added on April 5, 2007, 3:47 amOMG the second pic's gun was certainly more than 17" cold! Btw you are in bulking phase now? Haha nothing beats the feeling of bulking! Thinking of cutting to get some veins on my arms when I hit 90kg! A long long way to catch up with you!

This post has been edited by free_enuf: Apr 5 2007, 03:47 AM

No, 17 inches. That's it. I'd be lying if i said it's bigger than that. It's almost impossible to get even 18 inches if a person's a natural trainee and small boned like me. I don't have gifted genetics.

And no, still in cutting phase and maintaining 17 inches, just measured. And strength levels still going up, albeit a lil' slower. You do know i'm in cutting phase right? I've already mentioned it to the regs some time back. Started 2 months ago. I lost 7 kgs already, from 98 to 91, but fluctuating between 91 to 92.5

This post has been edited by darklight79: Apr 5 2007, 03:54 AM

Oh.. When you said it lasted 2 and a half months I thought it ended.. Anyway whats your target weight of this cutting phase? Or judging by your condition? Agreed its difficult to get perfect on both mass and condition departments being a natural! Btw 7kg in 2 months is pretty decent! Not more not less!

I went on a really, really slow cut. I'm not taking chances losing mass. Well, i won't see the weighing scale, i'd say the mirror is the best way to telling progress. When i start looking too tiny, then i'll stop cutting. I need to get rid of the lower ab flab. It's disgusting.

Couldnt agree more! Man my love handle is so huge if you look at them alone you will swear I've never lifted! Dirty bulking is now claiming its toll on me!

The lower flab only shows when i bend over but it doesn't show when standing or sitting so it's cool. It's the hardest to go.

I once took dirty bulking way too far. I think it's ok to do it, but it depends on the situation. When i hit 97kg, i realized that i had a lot of BF to lose. To give you an indication how bad it was, after losing 7kgs, then only did my 4 packs start getting visible, we're not talking defined 4 packs, visible. I figure maybe another 3-4 more kgs to cut then i'm happy.

Btw whats your stand on cardio during bulking? I alwas hesitate to do cardion as I lose mass so much faster than I gained them!

Muahahaha! I don't do cardio. My fat loss now is 100% due to dieting.

IC Haha my plan is what opposite of yours! Upon cutting am gonna add cardio while maintaining my calorie intake as I lose mass too fast when diet screws up! Gonna cover that with some thermogenic although I seriously doubt their efficacy! Well atleast they cover the strenght department during cutting IMO. Havent tried out so dunno if its gonna work..

I dunno man, seriously i'm inexperienced at cutting. This is my first try and surprisingly it's working well. One Canadian bb'er told me either you increase caloric expenditure or you decrease caloric intake. Don't do both unless you're preparing to go for serious competition and getting ripped. So, i figured... meh... i hate cardio, screw it. Let's diet instead.

And it's fun. I'm eating like... steaks with all the fat. Whole ground beefburger patties, fried chicken drumsticks with skin, etc, etc, just no carbs except pre and post workout. Of course i do get irritated when my gf is eating fried rice next to me.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Apr 5 2007, 04:23 AM

Cool! Low carb huh! Might try that as well! Or carb cycling. Anyway gotta doze! Jus downed my last meal of the day. Talk to you later! Anyway Benefited hell lot talking to you! Thanks man!