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 using normal diesel for euro 5 diesel vehicle, What happens?

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post Dec 8 2017, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Jul 24 2017, 12:34 PM)
If it comes to this, then using Euro5 is a chore. I don't mind finding a petrol station 10 mins away. The nearest is 52 mins one way. So does not make sense.
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true also. thats why i also try to pump as i go.
cannot wait till empty, even sometimes half tank also just pump a bit more
after sometime i also get use to it already to pump at which area for petronas
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post Dec 8 2017, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(jacque12 @ Dec 8 2017, 12:50 AM)
i pump my hilux (5 years car) with low grade diesel 3 years ago..when morning, it's hard to start the engine (took 1-2 minit)...i thought i had to waste a lot of money ald..
in these few months i start to pump it with Petronas euro5, and it's more easier to start the engine now at the morning..
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interesting note to take down. thanks.
i thought old cars must overhaul but if just changin the diesel brand can help.
then its a good try at least with petronas euro5 here u r talking about
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post Dec 8 2017, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(lurvep34c3 @ Dec 8 2017, 05:56 PM)
true also. thats why i also try to pump as i go.
cannot wait till empty, even sometimes half tank also just pump a bit more
after sometime i also get use to it already to pump at which area for petronas
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Unless there is a new big and rich petrol operator in kota Bharu, then pasir Puteh on a monthly basis. Just filled up today
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post Dec 9 2017, 09:12 AM

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If you look at the specs of euro 2 vs euro 5, the reduction in soot and sulphur is like 10 times less.

10 times! And not by chance but by literal engineering it has so much less pollutant
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QUOTE(fakrulll @ Dec 9 2017, 02:07 PM)
so it's better to pump low grade diesel instead of diesel euro5 for older engine?
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Absolutely not , the lubricating properties of sulphur is substituted by cleaner additives hence no problems for old engines
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post Dec 10 2017, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(fakrulll @ Dec 9 2017, 02:07 PM)
so it's better to pump low grade diesel instead of diesel euro5 for older engine?
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Depends on how old is "old", but generally within 15 years old, euro 5 should work fine.
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post Apr 10 2018, 08:40 PM

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This is a damn freaking good read! Sorry for reviving old threads but I am contemplating between the diesel and petrol Kia Sportage.

Read around about DPF and it scares the shit out of me as the replacement cost is expensive.

To diesel engine owners, how's the maintenance cost compared to petrol engine?

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post Apr 11 2018, 05:15 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 10 2018, 08:40 PM)
This is a damn freaking good read! Sorry for reviving old threads but I am contemplating between the diesel and petrol Kia Sportage.

Read around about DPF and it scares the shit out of me as the replacement cost is expensive.

To diesel engine owners, how's the maintenance cost compared to petrol engine?
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Save on mileage. Other cost not sure since I have 3 years free service and parts
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post Apr 11 2018, 06:33 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 10 2018, 08:40 PM)
This is a damn freaking good read! Sorry for reviving old threads but I am contemplating between the diesel and petrol Kia Sportage.

Read around about DPF and it scares the shit out of me as the replacement cost is expensive.

To diesel engine owners, how's the maintenance cost compared to petrol engine?
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So far nothing more than the usual oil and filter

As long you keep using euro 5 , the dpf will be fine ,
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post Apr 11 2018, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Apr 11 2018, 05:15 AM)
Save on mileage. Other cost not sure since I have 3 years free service and parts
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Apr 11 2018, 06:33 AM)
So far nothing more than the usual oil and filter

As long you keep using euro 5 , the dpf will be fine ,
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Does the Kia Sportage 2018 diesel has the DPF?
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post Apr 11 2018, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 11 2018, 08:42 AM)
Does the Kia Sportage 2018 diesel has the DPF?
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Maybe not , you have to chekc
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post Apr 11 2018, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Apr 11 2018, 08:50 AM)
Maybe not , you have to chekc
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I see. Another noobie question from me. Is the Euro 5 diesel price the same as Euro 2?
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 11 2018, 08:52 AM)
I see. Another noobie question from me. Is the Euro 5 diesel price the same as Euro 2?
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Always 10 sen more expensive
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post Apr 11 2018, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Apr 11 2018, 09:53 AM)
Always 10 sen more expensive
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Should be fine then. I am still thinking deep whether I wanna take a diesel engine car or not. I like the power but I am afraid of the maintenance and repairing cost unless it doesn't differ much from the petrol version.

I guess I don't really have much knowledge on diesel cars until I found this thread. It's been an informational read laugh.gif

How's your diesel car so far? laugh.gif

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post Apr 11 2018, 10:52 AM

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Enjoying fully , rest of the guys also enjoying , no Big deal just driving like any normal day
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post Apr 11 2018, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 11 2018, 09:56 AM)
Should be fine then. I am still thinking deep whether I wanna take a diesel engine car or not. I like the power but I am afraid of the maintenance and repairing cost unless it doesn't differ much from the petrol version.

I guess I don't really have much knowledge on diesel cars until I found this thread. It's been an informational read laugh.gif

How's your diesel car so far? laugh.gif
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Generally diesel engines are more reliable than petrol engines and easier to maintain ......
especially when one sticks to Euro 5 diesel that's available nowadays.
There is a reason why buses and lorry trucks/trailers use 'solely' diesel engines.
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post Apr 11 2018, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Apr 11 2018, 11:44 AM)
Generally diesel engines are more reliable than petrol engines and easier to maintain ......
especially when one sticks to Euro 5 diesel that's available nowadays.
There is a reason why buses and lorry trucks/trailers use 'solely' diesel engines.
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THe reason for bus/lorry is the low end torque
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Apr 11 2018, 10:52 AM)
Enjoying fully , rest of the guys also enjoying , no Big deal just driving like any normal day
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QUOTE(zeng @ Apr 11 2018, 11:44 AM)
Generally diesel engines are more reliable than petrol engines and easier to maintain ......
especially when one sticks to Euro 5 diesel that's available nowadays.
There is a reason why buses and lorry trucks/trailers use 'solely' diesel engines.
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Glad to hear that. I'll proceed with the diesel car.
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post Apr 11 2018, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 11 2018, 11:47 AM)
THe reason for bus/lorry is the low end torque
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Agreed with low end torque.
But modern day turbo petrol engines have low end torque too, hence diesel's advantage on low end torque has been narrowed, if not eliminated with modern turbo petrol engine technology.
Yet, one doesn't find turbo petrol engines that could deliver far higher power density than diesels in a modern day say, trailers or heavy trucks let alone buses.
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post Apr 11 2018, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Apr 11 2018, 12:04 PM)
Agreed with low end torque.
But modern day turbo petrol engines have low end torque too, hence diesel's advantage on low end torque has been narrowed, if not eliminated with modern turbo petrol engine technology.
Yet, one doesn't find turbo petrol engines that could deliver far higher power density than diesels in a modern day say, trailers or heavy trucks let alone buses.
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Trucks/Busses dont need high power (HP wise), there is a reason their speed limit is 80kmh...

Oh and no one wanna maintain a turbo engine on a bus bro... go for the safest and most simple path..

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