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 using normal diesel for euro 5 diesel vehicle, What happens?

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post Apr 11 2018, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 11 2018, 12:06 PM)
Trucks/Busses dont need high power (HP wise), there is a reason their speed limit is 80kmh...

Oh and no one wanna maintain a turbo engine on a bus bro... go for the safest and most simple path..
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Fair enough, but buses/lorry/trailers need the power on roads/highways like changkat jering, KLIA towards Nilai, Karak etc.
Ooh, offhighway trucks in construction sites would love more power, if only there is ease of maintenance on turbo petrol engines, which aren't available to construction equipments anyway.
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QUOTE(zeng @ Apr 11 2018, 12:13 PM)
Fair enough, but buses/lorry/trailers need the power on roads/highways like changkat jering, KLIA towards Nilai, Karak etc.
Ooh, offhighway trucks in construction sites would love more power, if only there is ease of maintenance on turbo petrol engines, which aren't available to construction equipments anyway.
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What do you mean they need power?

What kinda power u referring to?

U want them to go 180kmh?
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post Apr 11 2018, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 11 2018, 11:49 AM)
Glad to hear that. I'll proceed with the diesel car.
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Excellent choice.
You should try both the Sportage GT with 2.0D and the Sorento with 2.2D engine.
The Sorento seems to be better equipped than the Sportage but at much higher price.

I also test drove the Sorento 2.2D with my in-laws, but they opted for the Carnival 2.2D while I chose for CX-5 2.2D.
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post Apr 11 2018, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(widget @ Apr 11 2018, 12:44 PM)
Excellent choice.
You should try both the Sportage GT with 2.0D and the Sorento with 2.2D engine.
The Sorento seems to be better equipped than the Sportage but at much higher price.

I also test drove the Sorento 2.2D with my in-laws, but they opted for the Carnival 2.2D while I chose for CX-5 2.2D.
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Happy sorento 2.2 d owner here. Great power. 7 seats.
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post Apr 11 2018, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(widget @ Apr 11 2018, 12:44 PM)
Excellent choice.
You should try both the Sportage GT with 2.0D and the Sorento with 2.2D engine.
The Sorento seems to be better equipped than the Sportage but at much higher price.

I also test drove the Sorento 2.2D with my in-laws, but they opted for the Carnival 2.2D while I chose for CX-5 2.2D.
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Apr 11 2018, 01:37 PM)
Happy sorento 2.2 d owner here. Great power. 7 seats.
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Car too big for my taste. Most of the time I drive alone laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 11 2018, 01:51 PM)
Car too big for my taste. Most of the time I drive alone laugh.gif
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if don't have family, consider smaller car. i most of the time 3 people in sorento.
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Apr 11 2018, 01:54 PM)
if don't have family, consider smaller car. i most of the time 3 people in sorento.
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How's the noise? Older diesel car is noisy as hell even inside the car sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 11 2018, 01:56 PM)
How's the noise? Older diesel car is noisy as hell even inside the car sweat.gif
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Very quiet. So far, only 2 people managed to guess it is a diesel. The rest all think petrol until I say it is diesel.

Bawak 160km no fuss. kind of boring.
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Apr 11 2018, 01:59 PM)
Very quiet. So far, only 2 people managed to guess it is a diesel. The rest all think petrol until I say it is diesel.

Bawak 160km no fuss. kind of boring.
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Power of diesel laugh.gif You drive mostly in city or highway? How's the FC?
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 11 2018, 01:59 PM)
Power of diesel laugh.gif You drive mostly in city or highway? How's the FC?
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FC for city, almost similar to petrol. lots of stop start traffic. About 11.2-11.5L/km. Once highway, you can get 5.8-6L/100km (if you stick to speed limit 110km). If you do 160km, then 6.4-6.7L/100km.
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Apr 11 2018, 02:06 PM)
FC for city, almost similar to petrol. lots of stop start traffic. About 11.2-11.5L/km. Once highway, you can get 5.8-6L/100km (if you stick to speed limit 110km). If you do 160km, then 6.4-6.7L/100km.
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That's pretty good thumbsup.gif
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post Apr 11 2018, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Apr 11 2018, 02:06 PM)
FC for city, almost similar to petrol. lots of stop start traffic. About 11.2-11.5L/km. Once highway, you can get 5.8-6L/100km (if you stick to speed limit 110km). If you do 160km, then 6.4-6.7L/100km.
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One don't get 11.2~11.5L/km for a 2.2L petrol engine under heavy start-stop traffic. So milleage seems better for diesel.
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Apr 11 2018, 04:21 PM)
One don't get 11.2~11.5L/km for a 2.2L petrol engine under heavy start-stop traffic. So milleage seems better for diesel.
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not that heavy start-stop traffic. my suprima usualy 13.5L/100km for this same everyday route
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post May 27 2018, 09:09 PM

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Thanks all for this awesome read... Makes me even more confident to proceed with a diesel option. Unto my next.. Which is the better Euro 5 brand to pump?
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post May 27 2018, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ May 27 2018, 10:09 PM)
Thanks all for this awesome read... Makes me even more confident to proceed with a diesel option. Unto my next.. Which is the better Euro 5 brand to pump?
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In my opinion BHP
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post May 27 2018, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ May 27 2018, 09:15 PM)
In my opinion BHP
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I see... Any particular reasons?
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post May 27 2018, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ May 27 2018, 10:27 PM)
I see... Any particular reasons?
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Because my uncle who drives lorry for long haul got told when he used BHP diesel it gave few more extra KM per full tank.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ May 27 2018, 09:09 PM)
Thanks all for this awesome read... Makes me even more confident to proceed with a diesel option. Unto my next.. Which is the better Euro 5 brand to pump?
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Bhp, new petronas e5. Not the old e5. Shell.
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post May 28 2018, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ May 28 2018, 06:09 AM)
Bhp, new petronas e5. Not the old e5. Shell.
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Okay.. Thanks.. Petron? Cuz I've got one closer to me.
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 10 2018, 10:40 PM)
Read around about DPF and it scares the shit out of me as the replacement cost is expensive.

To diesel engine owners, how's the maintenance cost compared to petrol engine?
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 11 2018, 10:42 AM)
Does the Kia Sportage 2018 diesel has the DPF?
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replace what... depending on which car, better to ditch the PDF if there's no warning light problem, heck, even better if you ditch the EGR as well... i doubt msia have any emission regulations for private vehicles... but do it after warranty period

QUOTE(zeng @ Apr 11 2018, 01:44 PM)
Generally diesel engines are more reliable than petrol engines and easier to maintain ......
especially when one sticks to Euro 5 diesel that's available nowadays.
There is a reason why buses and lorry trucks/trailers use 'solely' diesel engines.
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true to a certain extent... with the introduction of piezo injectors and common rail modern diesel has become more complex... not forgetting crappy parasite parts that are added due to western emission controls like EGR, PDF, urea cleaner, bla bla bla...

buses and lorry due to cost if not required do not add these parts in especially in this region, that's why you can see that their output are inferior..

QUOTE(voncrane @ May 27 2018, 11:09 PM)
Thanks all for this awesome read... Makes me even more confident to proceed with a diesel option. Unto my next.. Which is the better Euro 5 brand to pump?
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bhp, skip petronas.... and avoid at all cost those nasty b10,b15,b20... bs biofuel added diesel..

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