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TSmystvearn
post Jul 21 2017, 07:38 PM, updated 7y ago

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Does anyone know what happens if you use normal diesel for euro 5 diesel vehicle? If I am not mistaken few years back, BMW modified the engine slightly so that the cars can accept our low grade fuel. I am interested in the sorento hs, but cannot see how to use it in east coast Malaysia. Also do owners of Euro 5 diesel have anxiety when finding petrol stations to top up? Or there are abundance of euro 5 in your location.
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post Jul 23 2017, 06:00 PM

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Thanks all for the feedback
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post Jul 24 2017, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 23 2017, 09:28 PM)
Or worst come to worst, buy a few extra plastic tank and refilled it in KV before balik kampung and so on.

So at least don't need to worry can't find Euro 5m diesel.
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If it comes to this, then using Euro5 is a chore. I don't mind finding a petrol station 10 mins away. The nearest is 52 mins one way. So does not make sense.
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post Jul 24 2017, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jul 24 2017, 01:49 PM)
Only mazda diesel here have strong preference to euro 5 and the SC will mention it to you. Other brands all made some adjustment to accept euro 2 without too much issue.

Since you are using sorento, it would do fine with euro 2. I ran santa fe same engine for euro 2 for initial 60k km, only after that then switched to euro 5.

But euro 5 will do well on all non commercial vehicles here nonetheless.
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So this article posted previouly does not happen then?
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post Jul 25 2017, 07:05 AM

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Thanks all for the feedback. Very useful information
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post Jul 25 2017, 09:05 AM

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I see. It makes sense as our temperature is too hot. I have been in a 1980s Mercedes at -4C - -12C in winter. Need 20 mins just to warm up car until full operating temp. If driving anything below that the car's temp will drop and the car will stall.

My work daily commute is about 20km in stop-start traffic. Only go back to kampung (500+ km) like 3 times a year. Is it advisable for a diesel?
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post Jul 25 2017, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jul 25 2017, 09:37 AM)
If it is the car you like, no harm getting it despite being diesel engined. But if you choose it mainly because of the fuel economy factor, you'll be kind of disappointed with your driving condition.
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I see. Thanks. The reason why I am interested in the Sorento is the emergency 3rd row seats. X-trail kind of basic, and does not seem premium. Santa Fe not as big as Sorento. Not interested in MPV looks even though MPV's are big. Not going to using the 3rd row all the time.

Not sure I want to get a 2.4L petrol powered Sorento. Cannot imagine the FC.
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post Jul 25 2017, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jul 25 2017, 10:44 AM)
For that range of cars, (bar the grand carnival) the Sorento is the largest of 3 rows SUVs in that price range.

My family owned the sorento equivalent santa fe diesel (albeit previous generation, which actually has slightly larger interior space than the current one), the NVH is half a notch better than counterparts. Car feels rather planted even i reached 170km/h. The new Sorento should have a step up on NVH further.

You can have a perspective from a car blogger here regarding the sorento diesel :
http://kensomuse.com/blog/2017/02/06/new-k...ence-inspiring/

Just that if you get the low spec diesel, the last row has now air conditioning vents like the high spec version.
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The HS has the second row curtains, which are quite handy. smile.gif
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post Jul 26 2017, 01:58 PM

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I finally found an owner of the new Carnival using Euro2M almost exclusively in Kelantan. 6k km (2 months), nothing wrong with vehicle. So I guess the 2.2L engine can withstand abuse?
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post Jul 26 2017, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jul 26 2017, 02:11 PM)
My family owned santa fe diesel used euro2 diesel for the 1st 60k+ km (4+ years), no problem pun. Being diesel, the engine oil go black very fast (saturated with more soot).

So either change engine oil more frequently, or use good quality diesel engine specific engine oil.
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How frequent compared to petrol car?
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post Jul 26 2017, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jul 26 2017, 02:48 PM)
Under warranty, so change every 5000km. The last change was around 7500km, using 15w-40 ZIC semi synthetic HDEO. After that, used Kendall Super-D 10w-30 semi synthetic for 8000km before selling the car off.
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Thanks
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post Jul 26 2017, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jul 26 2017, 03:11 PM)
In short, other than mazda skyactive diesel range and some continental diesels, 99% of the rest would work fine with euro2 diesels.

Euro2 exhaust stinks more and can see more smoke.

While euro5 exhaust is less smelly and the exhaust smoke is much reduced.
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oh well. What to do laugh.gif . Thanks everyone for all the feedback
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post Dec 6 2017, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Dec 5 2017, 11:23 PM)
Incorrect. It's newer common rail direct injection recommends Euro 5 fuel as the engine operates at complex magnitude and controlling precise curling to ensure minimal smog. They can still run conventional euro 2.
Its just like smoking. You know it's bad. But the side effect differs to people. Preventive measures like running injector cleaners etc can help prolong the life span but does not ensure longetivvity.
You rarely see diesel cars overhaul due to long mileage because they don't run like normal petrol piston ring. The higher the pressure, the greater the seal.
No such nonsense. Just pump in euro 2. Nothing is going to fail. Don't be paranoid, even fifth gear also confirm that diesel engine can run on petrol. If you accidentally pour in gasoline, don't worry. Top up more diesel. You will feel your car run smoother but slight less power. After bleeding out all the gasoline, it will just run like normal.
I think everyone here has a misconception on modern diesel car. They are not as taufu as you think. You can run a full tank diesel on idle till it runs out of fuel under the hot sun, and still you won't risk on getting your engine gasket burn. Euro 2 is like smoking cigar, while euro 5 is like vape. I can say the most fragile part of the modern diesel engine is the injectors. Because they operated at high parameters and electronically controlled by fast pulse.
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Thanks for the info
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post Dec 8 2017, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(lurvep34c3 @ Dec 8 2017, 05:56 PM)
true also. thats why i also try to pump as i go.
cannot wait till empty, even sometimes half tank also just pump a bit more
after sometime i also get use to it already to pump at which area for petronas
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Unless there is a new big and rich petrol operator in kota Bharu, then pasir Puteh on a monthly basis. Just filled up today
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post Apr 11 2018, 05:15 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 10 2018, 08:40 PM)
This is a damn freaking good read! Sorry for reviving old threads but I am contemplating between the diesel and petrol Kia Sportage.

Read around about DPF and it scares the shit out of me as the replacement cost is expensive.

To diesel engine owners, how's the maintenance cost compared to petrol engine?
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Save on mileage. Other cost not sure since I have 3 years free service and parts
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post Apr 11 2018, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 11 2018, 08:52 AM)
I see. Another noobie question from me. Is the Euro 5 diesel price the same as Euro 2?
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Always 10 sen more expensive
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post Apr 11 2018, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(widget @ Apr 11 2018, 12:44 PM)
Excellent choice.
You should try both the Sportage GT with 2.0D and the Sorento with 2.2D engine.
The Sorento seems to be better equipped than the Sportage but at much higher price.

I also test drove the Sorento 2.2D with my in-laws, but they opted for the Carnival 2.2D while I chose for CX-5 2.2D.
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Happy sorento 2.2 d owner here. Great power. 7 seats.
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post Apr 11 2018, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 11 2018, 01:51 PM)
Car too big for my taste. Most of the time I drive alone laugh.gif
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if don't have family, consider smaller car. i most of the time 3 people in sorento.
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post Apr 11 2018, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 11 2018, 01:56 PM)
How's the noise? Older diesel car is noisy as hell even inside the car sweat.gif
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Very quiet. So far, only 2 people managed to guess it is a diesel. The rest all think petrol until I say it is diesel.

Bawak 160km no fuss. kind of boring.
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post Apr 11 2018, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 11 2018, 01:59 PM)
Power of diesel laugh.gif You drive mostly in city or highway? How's the FC?
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FC for city, almost similar to petrol. lots of stop start traffic. About 11.2-11.5L/km. Once highway, you can get 5.8-6L/100km (if you stick to speed limit 110km). If you do 160km, then 6.4-6.7L/100km.

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