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post Feb 28 2019, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Feb 28 2019, 01:17 PM)
RM3k, no free gift.
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Oh my god...too less...Easily you can get 5k in northern region and with some free gifts.. doh.gif
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post Feb 28 2019, 06:00 PM

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Joining in soon. Still thinking what color to get now since blue is no longer available =(
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post Mar 3 2019, 08:19 PM

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Any idea whether face lifted CR-V coming soon in 2019?
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post Mar 4 2019, 02:49 PM

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post Mar 6 2019, 03:27 PM

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Euro NCAP has just recently crash-tested the CR-V. It scored 5 stars but Civic with Honda Sensing only scored 4 stars (last year).



And IIHS has tested "moderate" overlap crash test last year. I don't understand why they didn't test for "small" overlap test. BTW, the car scored "GOOD". Went to their website here, they actually tested for small overlap test and it scored "GOOD" too. Terbaik bossku!



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post Mar 6 2019, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(kenz002 @ Mar 3 2019, 08:19 PM)
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Are you looking for 1? Me too!

At first, I targeted the X70 but when I know that it doesn't support Low Speed Follow, I hesitated. Now still studying about Honda Sensing.

I've been driving Proton with CVT and I HATE THEM. I then blocked my mind from any Japanese cars with CVT and looked into the Japanese brand that does not use CVT i.e. Mazda. Unfortunately, being Malaysian and imported under Bermaz, they have denied our demand to get the Mazda Radar Cruise Control. Other cars with ACC/RCC under RM200k are Hyundai Ioniq, Proton X70 and of course CR-V. I'm targeting SUV-sized vehicle and currently stuck with X70 (6 speed AT) and CR-V (CVT).

I know, Honda's CVT is much better than Proton's Punch CVT. Proton's is based on clutch whereas Honda is based on torque converter. In Proton's CVT, there is always some delay to move from the stand still and you have to press the accelerator more to overcome this. Rolling the car first doesn't helped me. I've tried my friend's Jazz and it doesn't have this problem.

One other thing is, in Proton's CVT, let says you are cruising around 30 km/h with a car in front of you and you want to overtake the car and speed up to 100 km/h. Sudden acceleration by pressing the accelerator just made your rpm jump and there is delay for the car to catch up. I really hate this issue and could be dangerous. Then I find that the CR-V has paddle shifters that we can use to drop the CVT's ratio. Can anyone confirm in CR-V, we don't have any delay issue (acceleration from rolling/low speed) by using paddle shifters? Or simply floored the accelerator is enough?

Now still studying about the Honda Sensing and CR-V's engine noise from inside the cabin. Looks like the engine noise is the only problem with the car. I know, sound proofing is subjective but I'm also driving a 15 year old Mercedes with quiet cabin (and another Proton's car with CVT with terrible sound proofing). So, my ears' can differentiate well the 2 scenarios.

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post Mar 7 2019, 11:21 AM

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As I made clear from my previous post, I'm not an owner of CR-V, but would like to share these few videos. I know, Honda Sensing is practically useful in highway and not in roads with intersections, but if you have any comments/feedback/experience with Honda Sensing, I would like to hear them. This videos hasn't changed my mind so far about purchasing the new CR-V with Honda Sensing:

1. This video is about Honda Odyssey with Sensing that suddenly brake itself at an intersection when the car in front turned right (this is right hand drive country). Go to 1:25 for the incident.



2. This video (I believe) is about the owner that has changed his original windshield with a probably non-genuine one and the Lane Keeping Assist went haywire. I have no idea on which model he drove.



3. This video is about a Honda Pilot at front. Not clear if it has Honda Sensing or not, but if it doesn't, it mimicked some of bad driving habits in Malaysia (brake checking, gengster konon). If it does have Honda Sensing, this is dangerous to cars at back. This is also as a reminder to SUV drivers to not follow closely car at the front. With higher center of gravity, chances for rolling is there.



So, any issue with your CR-V 1.5 T-CP's Honda Sensing? I don't mind if it give error messages, just send it back to Honda for repair, but failure during operation is something very serious.
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post Mar 7 2019, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(hayenadeblue @ Mar 7 2019, 11:21 AM)
As I made clear from my previous post, I'm not an owner of CR-V, but would like to share these few videos. I know, Honda Sensing is practically useful in highway and not in roads with intersections, but if you have any comments/feedback/experience with Honda Sensing, I would like to hear them. This videos hasn't changed my mind so far about purchasing the new CR-V with Honda Sensing:

1. This video is about Honda Odyssey with Sensing that suddenly brake itself at an intersection when the car in front turned right (this is right hand drive country). Go to 1:25 for the incident.



2. This video (I believe) is about the owner that has changed his original windshield with a probably non-genuine one and the Lane Keeping Assist went haywire. I have no idea on which model he drove.



3. This video is about a Honda Pilot at front. Not clear if it has Honda Sensing or not, but if it doesn't, it mimicked some of bad driving habits in Malaysia (brake checking, gengster konon). If it does have Honda Sensing, this is dangerous to cars at back. This is also as a reminder to SUV drivers to not follow closely car at the front. With higher center of gravity, chances for rolling is there.



So, any issue with your CR-V 1.5 T-CP's Honda Sensing? I don't mind if it give error messages, just send it back to Honda for repair, but failure during operation is something very serious.
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Hey man, firstly kudos on doing your research. However, you MUST understand that not even Honda, heck even as great as Volvo or King Tesla's autonomous driving and accident prevention systems are.. Not even they will tell you that their systems are 100% failure proof. Honda Sensing is an assist.. No more no less.. Don't expect any more than that. If Volvos and Teslas can crash, Honda's surely can too. For every owner who uses it frequently, I can guarantee it'll fark up at least once. Question is if the fark up leads to a crash (it or other vehicles around it) or not.

Summarily, level 5 autonomy is the future. It will happen, but until then.. All drivers must pay full attention behind the wheel. Cuz if that software or hardware decides to bug out at the wrong time and your family's on board? Your guess is as good as mine.
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post Mar 7 2019, 05:37 PM

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Hi, i just got crv 2.0 a month ago. Current mileage is only 1.5K.

I find my crv fuel comsumption is quite high about 10km/l. Its a mix of highway and city drive. I’m quite light foot on the gas.

May I know your crv consumption of you drive this model? Was told by SA this car average 12km/l.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Mar 7 2019, 12:37 PM)
Hey man, firstly kudos on doing your research. However, you MUST understand that not even Honda, heck even as great as Volvo or King Tesla's autonomous driving and accident prevention systems are.. Not even they will tell you that their systems are 100% failure proof. Honda Sensing is an assist.. No more no less.. Don't expect any more than that. If Volvos and Teslas can crash, Honda's surely can too. For every owner who uses it frequently, I can guarantee it'll fark up at least once. Question is if the fark up leads to a crash (it or other vehicles around it) or not.

Summarily, level 5 autonomy is the future. It will happen, but until then.. All drivers must pay full attention behind the wheel. Cuz if that software or hardware decides to bug out at the wrong time and your family's on board? Your guess is as good as mine.
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Thanks man, for your reply. Appreciate it. There is no serious discussion abt Honda Sensing in this thread. Just hope when someone Google "site:lowyat.net Honda Sensing", it will point to this thread.



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QUOTE(hayenadeblue @ Mar 7 2019, 07:36 PM)
Thanks man, for your reply. Appreciate it. There is no serious discussion abt Honda Sensing in this thread. Just hope when someone Google "site:lowyat.net Honda Sensing", it will point to this thread.
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1st video: I never experienced that before. The CMBS works in 3 stage. 1st stage: beep warning + display on lcd, 2nd stage: apply brake, 3rd stage: emergency brake.
2nd video: Probably changing the windshield affects the camera, just my theory anyway. A camera calibration may be able to fix it, but I am not sure if Honda Malaysia can do that.

I think I share some of this before:

CMBS: Be aware that there is some limitation, the speed need to be at least 15km/h, and the speed difference between your vehicle and the front has to be at least 15km/h as well. Meaning it will not trigger if you just inching forward.

LKAS: Very good, I usually enable this during highway trip. The steering correction is not overly aggressive and it can even identify faded markings. It actually force you to drive safely by giving turning on indicator before changing lane.

ACC + LSF: Works better than what I expected but it is not perfect. Very useful during bumper to bumper situation. It has 4 distance settings. I do find that setting distance to the closest, the braking is a little bit late and too aggressive. Usually I will use distance of 2-3. The ACC is fine, but being a computer software algorithm, I find that human is smarter. For example, if a cut cut into the lane, human may not apply brake immediately and let your car coast a bit, but honda sensing will react faster and more aggressive. End of the day, it is software algorithm that won't let you violate what you have set. The ACC also can accelerate quite aggressively if the speed difference is alot. Usually I will not directly set let say 100km/h, will try to increase the speed incrementally. Short press will increase speed by 1km/h, long press will round up number and increase by 10km/h.

Regarding the engine noise thing, I felt that CVT is the culprit and perhaps, less sound deadening material used. it is acceptable for me anyway. Actually, I think CRV masks away the low frequency too much, leaving only the high pitch fuel injection noise & perhaps CVT valve vibration noise ? The engine is quite muted after getting to highway speed. I do agree that the engine tone is not smooth and sweet. However, what you gain is long term, which is very good fuel consumption for a big car like CRV.

On practicality wise, I think I don't need to share as CRV is well known for this.

At the end of the day, what I can share doesn't equal to what you will feel, why don't you just go and test drive? You can collect and research as much as you want, the end of the day, those are all just personal feeling. For example, everyone is sensitive to different frequency.

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post Mar 7 2019, 08:55 PM

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Although Honda sensing is not perfect, but it can provide an almost semi autonomous driving experience. Besides stop sign and traffic light, can you imagine that I can drive from my house, to nearest shopping mall 80% with acc lsf? The leftover 20% is traffic lights, junction and parking lot. Anyway, I still enjoy driving myself, I did this just for the sake of testing.
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question, which workshop can fix the stabilizer noise problem
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Struggling to choose between CR-V and Tiguan

I like the exterior design of Tiguan + the Active Information Display, head unit and the way it drive feel more dynamics, handling is good too..
the downsize of this car is leak of security features if compared with the same segment SUV and i'm worry for the reliability of the brand, very bad reputation after sales service.

I also consider CR-V that come with Honda Sensing, Adaptive Cruise control and some other safety features offer from Honda 1.5TCP.
The only thing i don't like after comparing with Tiguan is the build quality in tern of dashboard used material and the solidness of the door panel and the noise produce from the CVT gear box when fully throttle and i'm owner of Accord G9 too.

I'm reading forum, facebook car club for 2 weeks still can't make any decisions...

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QUOTE(Walbur @ Mar 11 2019, 04:08 PM)
Struggling to choose between CR-V and Tiguan

I like the exterior design of Tiguan + the Active Information Display, head unit and the way it drive feel more dynamics, handling is good too..
the downsize of this car is leak of security features if compared with the same segment SUV and i'm worry for the reliability of the brand, very bad reputation after sales service.

I also consider CR-V that come with Honda Sensing, Adaptive Cruise control and some other safety features offer from Honda 1.5TCP.
The only thing i don't like after comparing with Tiguan is the build quality in tern of dashboard used material and the solidness of the door panel and the noise produce from the CVT gear box when fully throttle and i'm owner of Accord G9 too.

I'm reading forum, facebook car club for 2 weeks still can't make any decisions...
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I say...Don't think and go with your feels.. Trust me, you do not want to buy a car and then regret every single time you get into it or think about it. Peugeot isn't the most reliable brand in Malaysia and yet there are many owners out there happily bearing with the consequences of their happiness during the drive.
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QUOTE(Walbur @ Mar 11 2019, 04:08 PM)
Struggling to choose between CR-V and Tiguan

I like the exterior design of Tiguan + the Active Information Display, head unit and the way it drive feel more dynamics, handling is good too..
the downsize of this car is leak of security features if compared with the same segment SUV and i'm worry for the reliability of the brand, very bad reputation after sales service.

I also consider CR-V that come with Honda Sensing, Adaptive Cruise control and some other safety features offer from Honda 1.5TCP.
The only thing i don't like after comparing with Tiguan is the build quality in tern of dashboard used material and the solidness of the door panel and the noise produce from the CVT gear box when fully throttle and i'm owner of Accord G9 too.

I'm reading forum, facebook car club for 2 weeks still can't make any decisions...
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sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif Tiguan is no where near in terms of reliability compared to cr-v. buy a VW n regret. Ex owner of sirocco 2.0 here. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(icelc @ Mar 7 2019, 05:37 PM)
Hi, i just got crv 2.0 a month ago. Current mileage is only 1.5K.

I find my crv fuel comsumption is quite high about 10km/l. Its a mix of highway and city drive. I’m quite light foot on the gas.

May I know your crv consumption of you drive this model? Was told by SA this car average 12km/l.
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depends on the city you drive in...your average is ok for a SUV in mix driving...
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if 1.5L turbo FC will perform better in term of city and highway driving
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post Mar 13 2019, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(gld998 @ Mar 12 2019, 11:03 AM)
sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  Tiguan is no where near in terms of reliability compared to cr-v. buy a VW n regret. Ex owner of sirocco 2.0 here. sweat.gif
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Seems like the current 6-speed DSG is quite reliable. Didn't hear much complains on this current Tiguan..
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QUOTE(Kilohertz @ Mar 13 2019, 08:38 AM)
Seems like the current 6-speed DSG is quite reliable. Didn't hear much complains on this current Tiguan..
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Na.. I wouldn't risk it. Kena multiple times with conti, I am looking at harrier for myself and exora for my wife. For me CRV any day.

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