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post Jul 15 2017, 01:51 AM

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Reverse Parking..
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QUOTE(belfong @ Jul 30 2017, 12:30 AM)
I have driven the CRV 1.5 TC for almost 5 days. Probably one of the early ones to get the car. Super happy with it. Extremely quiet and the power was good. Handling was nice, stable during corners. CarPlay and Siri is the future but wish Waze supports CarPlay. The audio systems lack bass. Love the digital dashboard, very nice. The LED light too bright at night/basement parking. Love the Auto Walk Away lock but hate that the car does not automatically lock when you start to drive. Overall, it is a great car. Highly recommended.
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Thanks for the mini-review.. Keep it coming. Nice to know real world usage info..
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post Jul 31 2017, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Jul 30 2017, 08:06 PM)
You are welcome @auronthas and @voncrane. Happy to answer any queries anyone have but I am not a car expert, so can't really give any technical details. But everyday man's feel, sure.
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Read your blog review and would appreciate some insights.
*Any particular reasons to avoid the TCP variant? We are tempted to get the top spec cuz Honda Sensing, etc.. But debating if we'll use such extra features regularly enough to justify the added costs.
*How's noise levels inside the cabin at city speeds and highway speeds. I read on FB that it's noisy from 100km/h?
*Bluetooth phone connectivity? Performance? Calls clarity? Mic sounds pickup comfortable?
*I alternate between podcasts, radio stations and hi-res music on phone storage. Mainly podcasts. So how's the speakers? Voice/speech clarity levels in particular. In your previous review, you mentioned it lacked bass. So there's that.
*Had the chance to lug around 4 fully grown adults... Power still sufficient for zippy overtaking and hill climbs?
*Lastly, the front sensors. I'm also coming from an older vehicle and want a relatively easy to maneuver vehicle for the missus.. So front parking sensors is a must. How's the one on the CRV? Particularly in regards to road side kerbs, those low ones that one has to park perpendicular/angled lines. It's performance here is a make or break deal for us.

Thanks and feel free to addon to the above...

QUOTE(belfong @ Jul 30 2017, 09:50 PM)
I wrote a review of the new CRV -
http://www.ringgit.me/2017/07/2017-honda-c...ers-review.html

Hope this helps whoever needs one to make decision  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Many thanks again...

QUOTE(keane04 @ Jul 30 2017, 10:56 PM)
Anyone add the package with door visor, side step and rear bumper protector? I wonder what is the protector. Anyone can share? Thanks.
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I don't think it's wise to addon the door visor as that will result in more wind noise.
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QUOTE(belfong @ Jul 31 2017, 07:24 AM)
I learned from SA that the Honda Sensing thingy is only applicable when the car is in cruise mode. Meaning long drive along PLUS highway or if you drive to Cyber often. I don't do that, so I didn't think it's worth buying.
I do a fair bit on the highway. It'd be nice to set and forget at cruising speeds and in traffic too. Nevertheless, must try it in person before purchasing to really get its worth. Seen a couple owners reviews abroad that say it's finicky at best. Mazda's Iactivsense fares better.

I've been on LDP in PJ only not on any highway long enough to do > 100kmh. But at 90kmh it is very quiet. City speeds is extremely quiet as well. If you look at the bottom near the exhaust part and along the tyres, there are some sound proofing done. Some materials that was used.
Yeah, noticed the soundproofing materials as well, and if I remember correctly, the spare tire area is also covered with it. Though in the 1.5tcp I inspected, it wasn't nicely camouflaged or covered. Please update when you've had the chance.

Can't comment on Bluetooth as I'm using CarPlay. But mic pickup is very good. Very clear according to the missus whom I spoke to daily. The children at the back sometimes talk to their mother and the mic was able to pick their voices as well.
This is great news... I plan on using Android Auto.. As long as the mic has decent gain and level..  thumbup.gif

Speakers damn good. There are 4 speakers and 4 tweeters. 8 in total. Maybe that's the reason it lacked bass. Podcast is very clear, no issue.
Don't have chance to take 4 grown adults yet. Will let you know more.
Great

I really like the front sensors. It helps a lot. I'm not sure if it can detect road kerbs though as I think it's not "pointing downwards". Worth to observe. But it can detect my plant leaves. Ha ha. I should take a picture of the front sensor in the 7" screen. There's like 4 spots it's Sensing, so I thought it's pretty good at covering all angles.
Much appreciated.. I also think that may not be detecting downward obstacles..
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If you do find out any more pros and cons, please return to update. Keep them manufacturers on their toes. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Jul 31 2017, 08:34 AM)
got my 2.0 last weekend..very impressed..love the handling and feels powerful even its 2.0..interior top class..signal lamps looking very canggih biggrin.gif
for me the auto lock is non issue as i dont really use it biggrin.gif i am only trying to figure out how to make Waze work in apple carplay..
My SA told me Ron95 ias good enough for this car..97 not necessary
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I actually prefer the no faux wood panels on the 2.0 variant. Was actually my first complaint about the vehicle when I went to see it in person. But it's definitely the 1.5t engine for me. But yeah, the interior is quite improved over the previous gen.. Wasn't expecting that as we took one look at the previous gen earlier this year and ruled it out immediately. Shifted to the CX-5 instead. So good on Honda this time. Here's to hoping that the cars being rolled out of the factory are continually subjected to high quality standards.

Nah, Waze only just supported Android Auto. Fairly certain that they'd be working on releasing for CarPlay.. Releasing for Android first is expected cuz well market share and owned by Google.. Have more access etc.
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QUOTE(crayzeex @ Jul 31 2017, 10:31 AM)
I went for test drive last week in terengganu. The SA over there quite nice to me and let me test all the sensing and everything else. I am currently driving lexus is 250. My first impression, the new honda crv really awesome. The honda sensing itself worth the buy. The noise level of course not at the same par with my lexus, but still better than most cars. Emergency brake and braking distance are excellent. The body will slightly going ?downward, so make sure everyone in the car fastent their seat beltnas emergency braking will throw them out thru fws. Handling while braking is good. 1.5tcp engine can easily reach 100km in no time.

My loan already approved, currently waiting for tender result VAW to be released end of august. Sigh. Booked my car at HNZ glenmarie
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Thanks for the mini-review...

QUOTE(merci @ Jul 31 2017, 11:46 AM)
Hi,
Another thing, is it worth doing the car coating/detailing eg coat the paint with mica or glass coating.?Some detailers offer at RM2K+ up to RM5K+
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IMO, not worth it as the current paint is pretty durable.. Just wash every week or so and apply wax/polish occasionally. Park wisely too and don't let certain stains to sit on the paint for long. As for swirl marks, have a decent car wash place. I've patronized the same joint for years and pals with the elderly owner, so when the car comes around, extra care and the good stuff is used. How do I know this? Civic 08, only had to be repainted once (all round) for around 2K, paint today still looks like new when clean..No rust.. After a wash? glistens.. I've also got a good car guy who knows how to mix the right blend of metallic paint to match mine for those minor touch-ups. biggrin.gif

However, it is not a bad idea to coat the car, for added peace of mind i guess... But here's the question I always ask the coating fellas (don't matter if ceramic or bla bla)..
1. After coating, how much taking care should I still do? Ans: They reply same as above.
2. After coating, am I 100% protected against stone/rock chips, swirl marks, rust, keying and scratches? They reply nope, not 100%.. doh.gif

See, Some scratches can be buffed right out if they don't penetrate all the way through the clear coat. So if I'm going to keep doing all the above (care, etc) that I currently do? Why would i fork out at least 4K for a good coat all around the car. When I can keep that cash and repaint the whole car in say 5 years. Also, if you get into an accident and parts replaced, you'd have to re-coat again.. doh.gif Oh yeah, between proper wax and Rain-X application on all windows, I get the exact or nearly identical hydrophobic effect all over the car as most coatings do too..

Now paint protection films or wraps are a different story. I'm completely not into wraps.. but still on the fence towards PPF. I'm definitely going to put on security tint on all windows, cuz while I may be able to react coolly in an incident, the missus will probably freeze up and so some smash protection is required.. My 2 cents.

QUOTE(Susuwatari @ Jul 31 2017, 12:38 PM)
Disappointed about that as well, the Gen 4 has it. Sometimes I just don't feel like plugging in my phone for navi.
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Wow, 1st time I've heard that someone isn't interested in using the superior GPS navigation built into the phone... Good on you.

QUOTE(belfong @ Jul 31 2017, 01:37 PM)
I went with Llumar Crystal 6. Very nice so far.

Btw, I have updated my review with photos of the front/back sensor. I think @voncrane might be interested.
http://www.ringgit.me/2017/07/2017-honda-c...ers-review.html
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Going to check this out next.. notworthy.gif

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post Aug 1 2017, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Jul 31 2017, 01:37 PM)
I went with Llumar Crystal 6. Very nice so far.

Btw, I have updated my review with photos of the front/back sensor. I think @voncrane might be interested.
http://www.ringgit.me/2017/07/2017-honda-c...ers-review.html
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Read the updated review... Nice.

QUOTE(merci @ Jul 31 2017, 06:22 PM)
Hi.
Thanks for the opinion.
You're right. Still have to di the basic cleaning athough did the coating.
Btw, the detailer told me that there're some paint defects on the new crb
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You are welcome... Paint defects from the factory?? hmm.gif


Oh yeah, for those who are waiting for Waze on Apple CarPlay, you would have to wait longer than anticipated and quite possibly indefinite. As Apple at the moment has blatantly refused for third-party maps to co-exist with their Maps app. No official Waze support until Apple specifically allows access to their APIs.
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QUOTE(belfong @ Aug 4 2017, 07:55 PM)
Looks like have to read the manual .. lazy also, lol
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Yes, you'd have to. It's possible, can't recollect exactly but I've seen a video where the wallpaper was changed. Check on YouTube.

Earlier, stopped by a showroom to check out the vehicle with significantly less people than last time around. Asked to test the front sensors detection level and wasn't impressed. The top variant repeatedly failed to detect objects directly in front of it or roadside kerb-like heights. Only those objects of a certain height to the left and right extremities were detected... shakehead.gif
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post Aug 5 2017, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(tankiasu @ Aug 5 2017, 12:07 AM)
Alamak. Is it because they are too high up from the ground level?
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That and in addition to where the sensors are positioned and pointing towards. Now, the ground clearance is high and so should not pose an issue for most kerbs in the city. But say a concrete/similar pillar or even a big flower pot that's positioned smack in the middle... Driving towards either of those raised no warnings. Others can test this.. Could be the vehicle I was given to test and I only tested for that (holding out for a full proper test drive) as I've pointed out earlier in the thread, it's a make or break decision for me.

QUOTE(crayzeex @ Aug 5 2017, 12:30 AM)
Which car did you use as reference for the comparison of the front sensors detection level?
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Wasn't aware I'm supposed to have a reference. Earlier this year, I remember testing the CX-5 and it too failed to detect low roadside kerbs and I can't remember how well it detected other objects or if I specifically tested for such as in the CRV. But I do remember being disappointed and decided to wait for the soon to be launched 2017 models. The incoming CX-5 shows 4 sensors up front vs the 2 on the outgoing model and the latest CRV. So we'll see about that when it launches. Theoretically, 4 is better than 2. smile.gif


On another note, the color for me is definitely Dark Olive Metallic. It looks quite good. For those interested in booking this color, was informed 3 - 4 months waiting time. But that production is being ramped up and so should be delivered sooner than later.
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QUOTE(WingZero @ Aug 5 2017, 10:24 AM)
Rather than using front sensor from manufacturer why dont just fix a front view camera?
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Cuz:
1. Added cost.
2. Warranty void.. I asked and got that response.

QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 5 2017, 11:02 AM)
I saw 4 front sensors on mine, the others two you missed even closer to the ground, located upon a more sensible place.
Need not to worry actually, it is quite sensitive, it get triggered every time when motorcyclist passed by really near to my car during traffic light waiting.

4 front sensors, windscreen camera sensor and even a front radar for Collision Mitigation Braking System and Forward Collision Warning. There are whole bunch of active safety features up front. Even if you intend to bang the car in front also your car won't allow. No worried lah.  sweat.gif
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Okay, perhaps I wasn't detailed enough in my previous post... The sensor is able to pick out objects from the frontal sides, so a motorcycle passing by or a crisscrossing vehicle/human or whatever from the side, WILL get detected if close enough. Things I got no detection from were objects that were tall enough and wide enough to be detected, if approached from at an angle.. But NOT from pitch center.. Vehicle was less than 2 ft away, got down to check.

Thanks for pointing out the other 2 sensors and I'm not worried about hitting a vehicle or wall in front, those are large and visible enough.. Plus, I have no issues parking it anywhere, my sensor concerns are based on the missus. Who's more of a sedan vs CSUV person. Wouldn't want unnecessary bumps and scrapes.

Now, it could very well be that the two front-most sensors on the vehicle being tested were...for lack of a safer description.. "switched off", hence the low detection rate. I did mention that I didn't drop by for a detailed test drive and others could check and report back. Just gathering data points.

QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 5 2017, 11:12 AM)
Add front camera, with existing side mirror cameras housing (honda landwatch, make it both side), then we've got the 360 degree camera view.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(belfong @ Aug 5 2017, 11:38 AM)
yeah, if you look at my blog which I showed a photo of the dashboard showing the front sensor alert, the dashboard a outline of a car with alerts already.. depicting the 4 sensors that is actively detecting. And as @Neo_Y photo of the front vehicle show, the two sensors facing front is already below the number plate. How low do you want it to be, unless you are really looking for a front camera then.

From the image below, the 2nd sensor from the left is red - it is because of a jutting "branch" from my flower pot. The flower pot itself is detected by the 3rd sensor in yellow, still quite a distance, but the branch is near the car. If that is not "low" enough, I am really not sure what you are expecting.
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Nope, I did think of it, but not looking for an aftermarket front camera.. At least, not to lose warranty over such. Also, with the CRV's ground clearance and as pointed out in my earlier post, roadside kerbs or car park stops are non-issues. So it's not about how low, it was about solid (not vehicle-sized) objects in the center point/view.

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 5 2017, 09:29 PM)
Did you successfully triggered the front detection even once?
Because the front sensors can be switch off and mine come switched off by default, also the lane departure warning.
Please refer to the photo, two of both features need to be turned on.
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Yup, some detection occurred.. Please refer to my previous post again.

Yes, both were switched on before testing.
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QUOTE(belfong @ Aug 6 2017, 09:46 AM)
No offense but does such SUV you have in mind exists? At the same price point? Coz you said it's a make or break but it could also mean you might not be driving an SUV after all.
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No offense, but why do you have to be so defensive? I get that you just bought the ride and love it with all your heart and all that. But if you can't trouble yourself to actually read my posts objectively, then commenting will be pointless. I walked in to an SC, was offered to test drive within the compound, solely to checkout the front sensors. I refused to do a proper test drive, so as not to waste the SA's time as I wasn't ready to purchase cuz waiting on competition and test back to back. That's the point of a test drive, to notice as many things possible and consider if we can live with them or not. I don't know about you, but if I can completely avoid or significantly reduce some personal pet peeves, the lower the buyer's remorse.

I'll say it again.. Objectively read my posts. During my testing, the vehicle had a blind spot of sorts. Go on YouTube, etc, there are tons of videos showing kids being run over cuz high riding, can't see below or just plain not paying attention. I can imagine such front sensors stopping me or the missus from accidentally running over a kid and having to deal with the nightmare. Wouldn't you? Should you renact the test and not find any blind spots, then great... Means the fault was limited to that particular vehicle and future buyers can check for this before accepting their vehicles, as a matter of precaution. I'm not looking for a unicorn-like CSUV, just one that performs the best to my requirements.

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QUOTE(belfong @ Aug 6 2017, 10:57 AM)
I am not being defensive. I didn't care if people like the CRV or not even though I have bought one. If everyone buys what I bought, there won't be so many choices. I am just coming from the old-age saying that there's no perfect 10 in everything so some give-and-take is expected in any acquisition. As mentioned, I am not intending to offense, nor am I defensive of my purchase. To each his own.
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Of course there's no perfect 10 for all.. There can be a perfect 10 for some. I'm seeking a close to perfect 10 for me. Same as most car buyers, if I wasn't, I'd simply walk in, purchase and deal with the issues later. I'd rather not, hence pre-purchase research. So yeah, to each his own. No worries, I appreciate your real world reviews.. cool2.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(johnnycp @ Aug 6 2017, 11:00 AM)
Radar wave type has sensor won't be able to pick up small object signal. Looks like u need those aftermarket electromagnetic type sensors. Just Google up "electromagnetic parking sensor"
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...16135715AAcnA3O
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Have no such problems with the reverse sensors on my older civic... It's even able to detect those slim and cylindrical metal bars that are found in some parking lots. Thanks for the suggestion. smile.gif
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QUOTE(belfong @ Aug 8 2017, 04:50 PM)
My uneducated judgement in terms of fuel consumption: I have driven about 350km so far and the fuel tank went down by 60%. Full tank is about 53 litres according to the manual. So 60% of 53 litres is 32 litres which is around 11km/litre.. Good or bad?... is that consistent with other owners?
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I think it's too early to tell... Allow the engine some distance to break in..

QUOTE(johnnycp @ Aug 8 2017, 07:28 PM)
You don't put another floor matte on top of the existing floor mate because the aftermarket floor Matt might jammed the pedal and causing accident
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Ding! Ding!

QUOTE(belfong @ Aug 8 2017, 10:40 PM)
What's this plus and minus?

It's not accelerate /decelerate in cruise.

When I press it, the D became D1, D2. I think it's like the gear box pushing it to 2 and 1, just below D, for overtaking?

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Berroooowwww...! shocking.gif

QUOTE(belfong @ Aug 8 2017, 10:46 PM)
I didn't realize the CRV has some sort of semi-auto gear change  hmm.gif
Um, how to use  whistling.gif  sweat.gif
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Paddle shifters...Think manual transmission... Sometimes used together with the "S" mode. Each time you pull the + (right), the transmission shifts to a higher gear. Pull the - (left) to downshift. You should see the selected gear number on the instrument panel.

S also means secret mode active. Theres a few steps to take to take advantage of this mode.
1. Shift to S and turn off ECO mode
2. Honk 3 times.
3. Hold brake hard to the floor with left foot.
4. Press accelerator pedal down with right foot to reach 5000rpm.
6. Let go left foot when light turns green and keep right foot on accelerator pedal to the floor.
7. Turn on hazard light if you pass people driving next to you.
Thats it.

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 9 2017, 11:22 AM)
A mini satellite sign just popped up suddenly and I don't think our cars come with Navigation or Satellite Radio.
I believe the Satellite / GPS receiver is ready and fitted in the head unit for others Android apps.
I'm glad the HU support others languages instead of just English (can display chinese and korean words as tested).
Was tested in VW Tiguan back then, chinese words appeared in boxes only.  tongue.gif
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Hmm, makes sense to leave the gps hardware connected to boost its usage for AA/CarPlay. As the phones are generally tucked away and may have trouble seeking gps signals.. FYI: Absolutely haram, the second pic.. Later some silly butthurt fellow hit the report button on your post.. Don't give in though tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Susuwatari @ Aug 12 2017, 07:42 PM)
Tested LSF on LDP during the morning jam, it works well but a little scary at first cause the car just drives itself with you holding the steering. The distance from the car in front can be adjusted to approximately 1 car length though default is much further than that.

For Lane departure it will not be just audible signal, also light steer.

Auto breaks won't work if car suddenly cut in, it's stated on the owner's manual. However I realize it still works in low speed during the typical Malaysian Q cutting.

I find it really weird why many don't want such technology in the car, just get it, it's a no brainer. Of course you can't rely entirely on it.

Android auto works if you sideload the apk , I use it every time I drive.
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I agree.

QUOTE(M_century @ Aug 12 2017, 07:59 PM)
Mind to share how to download the apk and make it work?

Wouldn't it void the warranty? Honda SA will just say that if anything is not done at Honda service centre, shall anything happened, warranty will be voided, including windscreen and window tint. So it's like need to kinda overpay for the tint, so that we would still have the warranty.

For the entire 5 years, we have to pay whatever the service center charges us. Good and bad at the same time.
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You can download the apk from apkmirror and no it won't void your warranty.
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Aug 14 2017, 10:53 AM)
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Yeah, I'm aware of such. That "ding" was a congratulatory bell noise.
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QUOTE(VoiVod @ Aug 14 2017, 12:12 PM)
That's why I very much prefer the organ type accelerator pedal instead of this suspended type pedal. Much safer and better in avoiding objects stucked underneath/on top of it.
Unfortunately organ type pedal can only mostly be found on conti/premium cars.
But some non premium cars such as Kia/Hyundai also use organ type accelerator.

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I'm kinda torn on the idea. I get the practicality part and wouldn't mind an organ type. However, I do drive using the top part of my foot, making the alternative an easier drive sometimes. Either way, safety first right.. smile.gif

QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Aug 14 2017, 12:36 PM)
this is a good idea ~ why not right
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Yes, it's a good idea. But then, sensors can fail and manufacturers will end up being blamed when the airbags deploy but the doors don't auto-unlock. Bad publicity gets the most news and to tell the truth, the average Malaysian car owner is known to not bother about checking/repairing non-critical components.

QUOTE(belfong @ Aug 14 2017, 03:54 PM)
What does this do?
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QUOTE(wyshin88 @ Aug 14 2017, 06:20 PM)
May I know what is the function of this oil catch can?
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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Aug 17 2017, 05:24 PM)
Marketing "Sensing" and laneWatch in nice advertisement. But turbo 1.5 2wd and 4wd,got no sensing and laneWatch features. Cut cost, higher profit margin?? Why get turbo engine except premium spec, in the first place? Enjoy bigger cabin?? Get civic as same engine family and turbo performance.

Only premium spec can sense "danger" while on the road..
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Can't compare like that. Civic buyers and CRV buyers have completely different needs from a car.
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QUOTE(belfong @ Aug 17 2017, 11:36 PM)
Yeah. Agreed. I want the Civic but the wife does not agree sad.gif
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She's a keeper.. smile.gif

Mine is the other way around.. The missus prefers a sedan cuz low riding and I, an SUV cuz I'm a giant and easier to enter and exit, plus more space. The Camry hybrid's boot is much smaller. We almost bought the Toyota Camry Hybrid cuz the Accord doesn't cut it. Mazda 6 was fancy and all but was too driver-focused for a family car...not our deal. We were attracted to and decided to view the CX-5 in the same showroom. It's practicality instantly appealed to me and after much haggling and a couple test drives, she realized that our current and future needs would be better served by a CSUV. So camry went off the table. Fortuner was too big and weird to handle. Tiguan appeals to me but then VW Malaysia sweat.gif. Now it's the CRV vs the incoming CX-5.

To avoid getting the "I told you so" lecture and sleeping on the couch, I'm doing as thorough a research as I can on both vehicles. nod.gif

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QUOTE(Honto @ Aug 19 2017, 12:16 PM)
Do you guys realize that the vanity mirror doesn't, have a lamp. The previous crv have it and the top range hrv have it too. Cost cutting by Honda Malaysia. I wish ours have blind spot with rear cross traffic monitoring instead of lane watch camera. Hands free kick sensor on power boot. Factory built in subwoofer, remote start and memory seats too.
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Hmm, didn't notice the lack of a lamp. Not particularly troublesome but it would have come in handy for some occasions. I completely agree with the rest, particularly BSM+RCTA (Very practical), remote start to pump liquids around the engine for cold starts and pre-cool the cabin, and memory seats. I did notice, while honda lane watch takes care of the left side, nothing for the driver's side. Was disappointed at the showroom for that. Oh well, still a decent package. Face-lift maybe.

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