this is included in the Honda Sensing suite. unfortunately this Collision Mitigation Braking System (CMBS) is not only software but it also needs the sensors on the windscreen and radar at the front for it to work. in other words, its exclusively available to the TCP variant for now.

If Honda wants to capture more market share, they should at least include the basic CMBS in all the variants right from the lowest spec. I remember a good quote from Buycartv (famous taiwan reviewer) "the car manufacturer tends to only spec in the active safety features in the top range, does it mean that only the rich people life are more worthy?"

I can understand this is a marketing ploy to lure more buyers to the top variant but at least they can include the basic one like CMBS as an optional feature for people to choose. Imagine if every car manufactures practise this, how many accidents can be prevented?

This post has been edited by l2k: Feb 25 2019, 09:34 AM

understand your feeling bro. but that is all available in the market the moment. there is always the x70 which is hot SUV now. that has all the bells and whistles (and a little more) than the CRV.

lets go back to the original thread ya...

Thanks for explaining.
Unfortunately i got hit by a CRV from behind yesterday.
Long story short, settled report, processed to claim CRV insurance and sent my car to workshop which cause an unnecessary havoc on a supposed wonderful sunday zzz.
The CRV driver explained she's driving the lowest spec car. Curiously enough, I ended up here to ask you guys.

This post has been edited by kayzie: Feb 25 2019, 11:44 AM

While I agree.. In response to that reviewer.. I'd say "Good soup no cheap" and yes the richer you are, the same for your soup.. Back to the car. Sometimes, those features are built in a way that you can't get one without the other (manufacturing cost savings). Take the radars and sensors for instance.. It could be just "one" hardware but can be programmed to perform multiple things. So if they install the exact same hardware for all but software lock a few features? Then price appropriately according to features.. It's only a matter of time before the community will get wind of this and such unlocking will be available for cheaper outside. Besides, options are never a bad thing. Some people want the tech, others don't and or consider them money pits. Why pay for what they don't need. It used to be dirt cheap to buy and replace a side mirror. Later you go ask how much it costs to replace that left mirror today and compare..

Personally, I hope that with the prices we are forced to pay for cars. Someday we'll truly be getting full active safety specs on all variants and or the option to spec at will.. And on par with other international markets. I trust well coded tech and hardware to assess & react faster than the average human driver on the road.

This post has been edited by voncrane: Feb 25 2019, 01:01 PM

I never think x70 bell and whistles are really that useful. Autonomous braking also only comes with x70 premium. This thread is not that active anyway, a bit off topic I guess isn't that serious

Proud owner of a TCP btw, not someone trying to hijack the thread.

You can always look up the Honda CRV official page for the spec. Just for your further info, the CMBS system is also not perfect. So i wouldn't surprise even if she was driving a TCP, she still can hit you from the back.

1. The car speed must be >15km/h.
2. The car speed difference between your car and the front car must be >15km/h.

Partially agree with you. Anyway, I still remember the day when the air bags are only present for top spec. Same here for active safety. If government enforces at least CMBS on all new vehicles, definitely the accident rate will be reduced.

From hardware perspective, I do agree that installing the full sensing hardware will be costly and jack up the BOM cost. However, manufacturer can always design multiple variants on same hardware to depopulate / populate certain features (e.g. radar alone, radar + camera, different spec of radar, different processor spec, etc). It is slighly costlier to maintain inventory with more variants and definitely more RnD expenses have to be invested to design reconfigurable hardware, but top 5 car manufacturer like Honda could probably has enough resource to execute this. Unfortunately, short term profit is always weigh above the long term stuff. Hopefully government will enforce this someday in the future.

This post has been edited by l2k: Feb 25 2019, 04:02 PM

Sorry to tell you but when it comes to mass budget cars and sales.. Operational efficiency is king.. So the bolded part won't happen so easily.. So even though, it can be done as you have outlined. It won't be.. Ask Tesla, they know what it's like to bleed year after year. However, the time will come when such can be cheaper and then made mandatory for mass produced cars, but that time won't happen in the next ten years. So don't hold your breath. Right now, the race is on for level 5 autonomy and EV.. So more profits have to go into R&D area. I reckon if those are achieved and cheaper, then other stuffs can be added on as basic.

FYI, airbags became standard and made mandatory ONLY cuz Takata found a super cheap way to build, design and install em. A way that's causing many deaths and injuries till date. Remember, corporations now run the world.. Not governments. Even though we might want to believe otherwise.

CRV nw best discount can get hw much ar?

so far, got SA offer me with RM4200

thanks for your answer. I'm going w the 2.0. need something reliable and proven (1.5tc probably still new) as my wife likely to be using it. basically hassle free for the my boss .. hehe

oh gosh, SA mana satu?!

Majority SA in KL can offer range from 4k

I see. My sister SA now zero feedback when we ask him question.

What a jerk.

Already bought the car? I can recommend some SA if you like...

Booked the car, loan not yet proceed but bought number plate only.

What's the amount of your rebate?
Any free gift given?

Meaning already place booking fee?

RM3k, no free gift.

Yes...RM1k