as long as u dun buy every single game that are release every mnth i think supporting ori shouldn't be a problem. i onli buy ori for games that i feel worth supporting and that i'll play from start to finish, otherwise i won't buy it not even jack sparrow version.
some games are collected into a single package together with their expansion after a period of time, these are worth buying as its very much cheaper thn getting them separately. like i got Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War Anthology for 130+ (discount from TSB) that's onli 40+ per game as there are 3 games in there. normal price is rm180, which is still cheap

i believe they WILL buy
problem is no matter what the govt do...they still cant totally wipe it (piracy) out.

another interesting question (to those who smoke): how much do you spend for ciggies per month?
every year govt raise up the money for it...but still they buy.

but not for ori game....

This post has been edited by karwaidotnet: Apr 2 2007, 08:21 PM

[sarcasm]I'm so fcuking rich. That's why I buy original games hahahaha! Die you poor scum! You can only buy pirates? Nyek nyeek nyek![/sarcasm]

and what's the release stuff got to do with piracy? it looks to me that you're just plain dumb about releases.

Black Edition was released same time as the standard edition.

same goes to C&C3 where Kane Edition and standard edition are released together.

i know. cos i ordered the NFS:MW Black Edition and C&C:3 Kane Edition. it came same time as the standard edition.

dude, it's the people that drive RM 100k++ cars and using 8800GTX running SLI with high powered PSU and RM 1k+++ processors that frequently are complaining original games being expensive.

heck you don't have to buy EVERY game that comes to the market. i buy less than 5 games a year, this year itself 2 only.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Apr 2 2007, 09:18 PM

Yea, agree wit ya, but still if u buy a car, would u buy it because it comfortable and powerfull but without the "look"? Wad i mean is not because of the silly box, is the "CD media" it self. I cant imagine tat i spent RM800 for something tat cant even provide me a single 50cent CD media with it. Do remember if i format my system, how can i install back? Sometimes getting original bring us even worse!.

So i will say i only choose thing that worth to buy.

This post has been edited by splinter: Apr 2 2007, 10:29 PM

if u guys watched blood diamond , with leo dicaprio in it, cheap pirated dvd and cds fund terrorism, indirectly, all the money all used up in internal warfare.

then again, if we pay full retail dollar, it pays the salary of the workers in the united states. unless they are willing to release a local version, which is the same as local dollar to dollar price sold in the USA, e.g. selling price in USA, USD 25, sold here, RM25, thats fair and reasonable, since it comes with nice packaging and installation guide and manual. but then again, our asian cheap version would be parallel imported overseas too, so i guess none of this will happen

Lets be realistic here. How many of us actually, honestly buy original game just for the sake of supporting developers? Next to none I'd say..

Most people buy original game due to the attraction of being able to play online, promising mods and so on. The thing here is the reward a consumer will get for spending a huge chunk on games.

A real fan of Unreal Tournament or Battlefield game would not think twice to buy its original copy, since using pirated ones will make it almost useless anyway without online capabilities. But breaking our wallet for a single player game with no mode and online capability, its hard to do...

Furthermore, games are priced at price that is OK for developed countries like US, Europe and Japan. But bringing that price here to our country, it cost a bomb...

This post has been edited by Hornet: Apr 2 2007, 11:48 PM

We WANT everything but NOT willing to give anything.........

in singapore and thailand, original entertainment disc come out with affordable price, an ori CnC3 in SG just costs from S$52... when it converted to USD, its almost the same as the price sold in US. This perhaps have to blame on weak RM. Want a localised EA games? which company has such a strong financial basis to persuade those EA boss?

why in malaysia everything got to be freaking expensive? from tolls, cars, home appliances, tolls and cars are obviously overcharged

Oh do tell what bonuses do you get with the pirated version that the original ones don't have? Is it that tiny sheet of paper that is created by the pirates themselves? Wow, I can't believe they're so creative!

Anyway, the issue about NFSMW has been beaten to death by other forumers here. What I'm interested in is this:
Based on your earlier point that pirated versions have more to offer and then you point out how the "Black" version of NFSW was released after the original, which is the version that has more stuff than the normal one, are you implying that the Black edition is the "special edition" made by pirates?

Wait, so you're so cheap that you can't even afford the pirated game DVDs? Man... you're cheap, but at least you don't support the pirates (Financially at least... I'm ignoring the other possibility for now)

If you've read any review of Stalker, I'm pretty sure every one of them points out that it is indeed buggy. If you had read those reviews, you would've known it was buggy and not waste your money on it.

But, instead, you get a pirated version and then have the audacity to b**** about the fact that its buggy and use that as ammo for not supporting originals.

Its like saying "Hey, since a Proton Wira has shoddy workmanship, its therefore perfectly fine for me to steal the car since they asked for it by doing a bad job"

*raises hand*

On "some" occasions at least, I bought a game usually based on the name alone, regardless of original exclusives and so forth.

Me. I buy Winning Eleven Series PC version originals because i want to support Konami efforts in making these great football games!!
However, i also play pirated copies on my PS2

Too expensive. For a country like us, where the percentage of tax increases as your wages increases, tax everywhere, tax used on meaningless things and low wages, we can't possibly buy games everyday, can we?

Yeah, like Hornet says, it costs a bomb.

Your analogy is sorta wrong here:

(1) Jackie Chan is old and has been having too much fun in Hollywood where the pay is good and the work is less. That's why you see all the shitty Jackie Chan Hollywood bombs the last few years. Without a good HK director like Stanley Tong (Police Story 3, possibly the best police story ever), Jackie Chan is not the Jackie of yesteryear already.
Anyway, he's too friggin old already, and he made too many shitty movies to smear his own image in the last few years.(while making mega bucks compared to HK salary, no doubt).

(2) Chow Sing Chi still makes great movies. Now that he's slowly moving to Hollywood, but the difference is, he do it on his own terms. His movies are still very much HK style with the backing of Hollywood production and budget. Shaolin Soccer and Kung Fu Hustle are worthy films of it's genre. It just that he cuts down on quantity and stick to quality. Stephen Chow is also script writer/director/producer. So you can only expect a movie every few years. Thumbs up for Stephen Chow!

(3) Fatty Chow@Chow Yuen Fatt is also old and fat and not getting much jobs from Hollywood. So far his Hollywood movies are mostly forgetable. He may be big in HK but in the West, he's just a fat old Chinese guy trying to make a dent in the industry.
At least Jackie Chan and Jet Li have a niche market with their martial art skills. But CYF has nothing. In terms of acting, there are gazillion equal or better actors in the west. That's why you don't see him very often. I believe Pirates of the Carribean is his first appearance in a big budget Hollywood blockbuster movie. His previous movies, other than Anna and the King, are just too insignificant.

So really, piracy has nothing to do with those 3 fellas.

I think the government is taking piracy more seriously than ever before. With zero pirated software & games sold in LYP nowadays, except pirated game cartridges since they don't fall into the same CD/DVD category (I don't know how our laws can be so stupid), we have less places to buy pirated materials.

More and more games come with online capabilities that only allow original copies to be played and that is good for consumers because it adds value to the product.

But more needs to be done to combat piracy:
1. Prices need to be cheaper - more locally produced copies would be nice. If we can produce tons and tons of pirated stuff, we can definitely do originals as well. People who buy games at RM10 or less will not pay RM100+ for an original, that's clear.
2. Warranty - in US, you could return a game or exchange it for another within a certain number of days. This should apply as well here (correct me if I'm wrong).
3. Local support line - if we buy a US game, are we getting the same kind of support extended to us? Toll free line? Local support help? Currently, we only have forums to turn to which are hardly any help.

Look at Microsoft products. Most companies are using their originals nowadays. Why? Because Microsoft cared enough to open an office here. They cared enough to actively conduct product launches and promotions and of course, raids with the local authorities. They opened up job opportunities for the local talent. This has worked out much better than just sitting in Redmond and hope that piracy of their software will just go away. To other software/game publishers out there - give some to get some.

Software Boutique, a local reseller of original games has EA rights. They're currently offering up to 50% discounts on pre-ordered EA games. We should help support this genuine effort to help bring down prices of US products sold here. Send a message to the US counterparts that if the price is right, there is a vast untapped market here.

Eh, not really. Our localised versions are supposed to have the box and manual in BM thus making it really unfeasible to be parallel exported overseas.

i buy originals because it's the right thing to do. don't support piracy.




why da heck do you even need to buy games every day or every week, heck or even every month!?!?

each year i buy less than 5 games. i'm happy with it. it's not like you don't have any other things to spend on, right?

Used to buy original games 10 years back during Jeffery era from the TV techology talk, Cyber.... (Something) where it's still cheap. I remember games such as Syndicate only cost RM 49 which I bought it from Bangsar shopping complex.

I still support original game, but it's hard to get the latest game on the shelf when released.

NONSENSE!!!

you just have to be aware of the release date and pre-order them, heck you might get some discounts with pre-orders. and some goodies too.

Heh, I've stopped advocating the "100% ori" moto for awhile now as you tend to get a LOT of negative flak from warez users. This "Buy if you can" moto doesn't generate as much flak, but it certainly generates some other type of flak (Usually, the "You're a goddamned hypocrite" line)

Anyway, the point I was trying to make was, (In Reply to Hornet), not everyone will buy original games on the merits of features that are absent in the pirated version.

Jeffrey Ong (Former national swimmer) and Cyberwave?

Dude, that show came out in '96 or something. Syndicate came out in '93. You were buying a game which was at least 3 years old, hence the low price. Games around that time were in the RM 90- 130 region... Plus, you haven't factored in inflation.

Yes, its true that games are indeed more expensive now, but that was a few years ago when most games were in the RM 180+ region. That time is long gone now and most games are back in the RM 110-170 region.

i see there is pro and con of ori and mr jacksparrow version....

for instance see at what happen to lovely psp... good game stop to come out and of course ori is expensive but just to keep the good game to come ive start to support ori... but only for the game i really want to have and pay.. some game is just to waste time but some game is for having real fun.

so for start just get the game u really like. thats wat i do now.. at least i have few copy already... just start buying one copy first.. then buy another one when u have the cash... but never intend to buy one every day.. make a convenient gap for you, such as one a month or once a year its up to you but just buy one at least...

if no one buy ori game.. so expect there will never be a great game and only crappy game... start now and never regret or regret for ever later..