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English Clubs Liverpool LYN Kop Talk - 2017/2018, SPA 1 : 1 LIV #YNWA

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AnythingK
post Aug 13 2017, 12:00 PM

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Mahrez? Most probably staying at Leicester or go to Arsenal, no chance for us.

Aside, even if now we have Coutinho back, with Lallana injury prone, our midfield is still damn shaky. Gini, i think I dont need to say much yet everyone know he is not good enough. Hendo is not really good as DM, Can is on and off, he need to be consistent.
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post Aug 13 2017, 12:20 PM

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moreno is a pile of shittake..
2 of the goals came from his side..
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post Aug 13 2017, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Aug 13 2017, 12:00 PM)
Mahrez? Most probably staying at Leicester or go to Arsenal, no chance for us.

Aside, even if now we have Coutinho back, with Lallana injury prone, our midfield is still damn shaky. Gini, i think I dont need to say much yet everyone know he is not good enough. Hendo is not really good as DM, Can is on and off, he need to be consistent.
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Gini is still living off his Manchester City goal from last season

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post Aug 13 2017, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Aug 13 2017, 01:14 PM)
Gini is still living off his Manchester City goal from last season
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Ah well, there is some fans that doesnt really look at the bigger picture and praise Gini is good just because he scored some important goals in big game.
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post Aug 13 2017, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(mkaz @ Aug 13 2017, 12:20 PM)
moreno is a pile of shittake..
2 of the goals came from his side..
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seriously?nice try to find a black sheep...to be fair, two goal come from the corner...u on weed?
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post Aug 13 2017, 03:28 PM

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we need the backbone... one defensing system, playmaker and also a striker.

if only salah convert those into goals, but he didnt.

I am surprise tht salah was the man of the match... i thot mane was alot lively than him. His control of ball isnt very impressive. ok to be fair to him..maybe he needs time adapt.

the genuine striker we have now is sturridge sadly he is like porridge. firmino isnt a striker, his instinct as striker is not there...

as for origi ....is not a secret... i dont like him! off load him, he s shite....

gini as shite as origi...

and the list goes on.... these fringe players are making into the 1st team, thts worrying.

anyway... with these players still there, sorry to say, I dont have high hope in liverpool. a Top 4 and we make it to the group stage... i m a happy man, lower expectation makes me happier tongue.gif cheers!!!
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post Aug 13 2017, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Aug 13 2017, 03:28 PM)
we need the backbone... one defensing system, playmaker and also a striker.

if only salah convert those into goals, but he didnt.

I am surprise tht salah was the man of the match... i thot mane was alot lively than him. His control of ball isnt very impressive. ok to be fair to him..maybe he needs time adapt.

the genuine striker we have now is sturridge sadly he is like porridge. firmino isnt a striker, his instinct as striker is not there...

as for origi ....is not a secret... i dont like him! off load him, he s shite....

gini as shite as origi...

and the list goes on.... these fringe players are making into the 1st team, thts worrying.

anyway... with these players still there, sorry to say, I dont have high hope in liverpool. a Top 4 and we make it to the group stage... i m a happy man, lower expectation makes me happier tongue.gif cheers!!!
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and a proper captain
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post Aug 13 2017, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Aug 13 2017, 11:01 AM)
Ok, say for instance we know or don't know who indentifies or scouts for talent?

Most managers rely on feedback or having their trust scouts who searches players from other leagues (or in some cases we think (LFC scouts) they only watch opponents of LFC (players who score or play well against us 😓)

Or those alternatives simply not capable to adapt gegenpressing (i.e. Balotelli, can't teach old dogs new tricks)??
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Gegenpressing is a myth bro.


QUOTE(sahathai @ Aug 13 2017, 11:56 AM)
keita has one good season. no doubt he has lots of potential but if we fail to sign him this season, it's a blessing in disguise. give him another season at RBL, playing in UCL and see how he performs plus he is available at cheaper price next season.

VVD in the other hand is a priority. we need to sign any center back at his quality or better ASAP. Matip and lovren are injury prone, klavan too slow, gomez too lightweight and sakho is for sale.

coutinho is as good as gone but if he stays, he still need to perform to get in the World Cup team. but his heart is no longer here and we should identify a replacement quickly. right now the only player who I could think of is Mahrez. he plays as RM at Leicester but I don't think he has a problem operating as our creative playmaker in the center. epl proven, dribbler, creative and good finisher.
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When we knew Saints do not wish to sell us VVD, then we should have went for our alternative CB.

But unfortunately, Klopp is stubborn af and he does not want alternative. OR our scouts are not able to produce alternatives that can satisfy Klopp.

At the moment, nobody knows. If it's the former, then Klopp should reflect and put his principle behind, and do what's right because his stubbornness/ principle will cost us big time. But if it's the latter, then Klopp should just sack the whole scouts.
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Aug 12 2017, 09:40 AM)
I mentioned weakness.

LFC wouldn't have this problem and should not have this problem. Our Best Player having the need to hand IN transfer request. that despite he has no quarrels with manager/fans feeling aggrieved with the press.

In our gameplay coming season we definitely will play football with great speed from all flanks (now with salah inclusion).

We all however know the difficulty for LFC in nick picking bus parking teams. Courtinho long range n creativity will again be an assets. No courtinho, we throw 3 years away.
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Actually as i have mentioned the club has done its bit to tie in the player by the new contract.
Nowadays the player has lots more power plus the fact that Barca probably put lots of things into his ears and mind.

Club has done all it could. Barca and R Madhouse will always be the attarction to Latin players.
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post Aug 13 2017, 06:10 PM

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i really miss the transfer window during houllier and rafa era.. nostalgia
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post Aug 13 2017, 06:17 PM

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just sell off couth. la.... the longer it drags the worse it will become to liverpool
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post Aug 13 2017, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 13 2017, 05:54 PM)
Actually as i have mentioned the club has done its bit to tie in the player by the new contract.
Nowadays the player has lots more power plus the fact that Barca probably put lots of things into his ears and mind.

Club has done all it could. Barca and R Madhouse will always be the attarction to Latin players.
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Yeah We know of the lure of Barca & RMadrid. We've lost good players to both these clubs on several occasions. (Not just Latin, but English players too)

Looks like we either accept and live with it 😡😡😡


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post Aug 13 2017, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Aug 13 2017, 04:28 PM)
if only salah convert those into goals, but he didnt.

I am surprise tht salah was the man of the match... i thot mane was alot lively than him. His control of ball isnt very impressive. ok to be fair to him..maybe he needs time adapt.

the genuine striker we have now is sturridge sadly he is like porridge. firmino isnt a striker, his instinct as striker is not there...


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Salah is marquee player 😤😳😳?? "Most expensive LFC player"

Ok base on today's inflation the likes of Suarez/Torres in their heyday shd set about 80-100m...

No wait neymars fee obliterated/dwarfed everything. It looks like min 70m to get good marquee players.

FSG will never spent that amount in the near future. It's almost like they threaten to buy VVD n keita but it does seem like poker bluff (sorry it likely to annoy some LFC fans here)
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post Aug 13 2017, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Aug 13 2017, 06:34 PM)
Salah is marquee player 😤😳😳?? "Most expensive LFC player"

Ok base on today's inflation the likes of Suarez/Torres in their heyday shd set about 80-100m...

No wait neymars fee obliterated/dwarfed everything. It looks like min 70m to get good marquee players.

FSG will never spent that amount in the near future. It's almost like they threaten to buy VVD n keita but it does seem like poker bluff (sorry it likely to annoy some LFC fans here)
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Based on today's market and inflation, a proper marquee/top players price should be at least 50m and above.

So yea we wont be having any marquee signing because FSG surely not willing to spend 50m on a single player.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Aug 13 2017, 10:02 PM)
Based on today's market and inflation, a proper marquee/top players price should be at least 50m and above.

So yea we wont be having any marquee signing because FSG surely not willing to spend 50m on a single player.
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But we bid in excess of £60m for both Keita and VVD...
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post Aug 13 2017, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(manx @ Aug 13 2017, 10:04 PM)
But we bid in excess of £60m for both Keita and VVD...
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FSG knew the bid will be rejected, he planned ahead to deceive us. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(manx @ Aug 13 2017, 11:04 PM)
But we bid in excess of £60m for both Keita and VVD...
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We think they bid but for sure they made inquiry for their availability.

Tanya saja 😓
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post Aug 13 2017, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Aug 13 2017, 10:16 PM)
FSG knew the bid will be rejected, he planned ahead to deceive us.  biggrin.gif
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FSG palying Arsene's game?? doh.gif
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post Aug 14 2017, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(manx @ Aug 13 2017, 10:04 PM)
But we bid in excess of £60m for both Keita and VVD...
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To be accurate, it was £66 million for Keita and no bid for Van Dijk, in fact we didn't even make an enquiry which was what landed us in hot water because we didn't even attempt to ask for permission.
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This number is staggering. And it's astonishingly bad.

Klopp needs a defensive coach surely? With immediate reinforcement for CB as well.

Don't tell me there is no one defender in the whole world that's better than Lovren and Matip? Or even Klavan, apart from VVD.


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