if no glue can tahan. depends on ur weight distribution lor. more leg, more stabil and less stress on each leg.

not sure about the baking powder . but better not. precaution ..

This post has been edited by coldfusionpower: Jul 3 2007, 01:07 PM

What is "mote leg"?

Ohh, one more thing, the door, you make one square frame using the PVC tubes right?


KP

This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Jul 3 2007, 01:05 PM

opps .. i mean "MORE" .. hahah . i edit it now ..

yup . i make one square pvc pipe frame and put hinges at the left .

Ahh, "more" legs

Thanks.

Thinking of the blue print, incase I have to DIY jugak the cage


KP

no problem kp

Baking soda is sodium... animals do not like the taste of baking soda... coz I also don't like the taste hhahaha.... but if so many tips fail....

The white vinegar takes many times to be effective. The best is spraying or dripping everyday on the same area without wiping it away.

If that fails, another tip is peppermint oil... can get a small bottle from aromatherapy shop...

Another one:

Mix 7.5g of dried organic peppermint leaves, 35g of organic cayenne powder and 30g of baking soda. Sprinkle the mixture liberally around the area where ants are entering your home.

vinegar = doesnt work
baking powder = doesnt work

haih .. later hv to find aromatherapy shop .. maybe can get lavender candle also .. help me to sleep .. huhuhu eh .. where the heck is the shop ? anyone ?

I used to work at an aromatherapy shop, but now that shop closed already.

I'm also looking for one, but dunno where.

Make sure the peppermint oil you buy is 100% essential oil, not perfumed oil.

Perfumed oil doesn't work cuz it's just the perfume smell of it. Only 100% essential oil works and has healing compounds in it

Hun, yesterday went to Carrefour Wangsa Maju. Now they selling pets also in Carrefour It used to be hamsters only, now got others also. I overheard someone asking "Where is this animal? I want to see." When I look up, I saw a small cage labeled Sugar Glider - RM350. I was like WTF! Nasib baik the glider tak ada, the promoter said something about them being shifted or something. Arghhh, now places like Carrefour also can simple sell suggies I had Iggy and Luna with me, feel like asking Iggy to "gigit" them all!

We need to curb those commercial breeders lah, too many already! Don't we need a license or something to become breeders here?? Can we get the law to do that?


KP

make a MSGA, register it and then can ask for reinforce the law .. but it gonna be a wayyyyyyy long time for gov to even consider thinking about it .

What's MSGA? How to do it?

Later suggies will be overpopulated and evn sadder without many good owners cuz Malaysian people like to buy on impulse especially when see so cute

Dah la we don't have proper food for them (except for Hun's mix, but only forumers would know about it) and then the people selling teach wrong things to buyer


KP

Not to mention simply mixing them around. I'm sure not many people know about inbreeding. Sighs. Everything's gonna get really messy if this continues. =/

I think actually people don't think about inbreeding with pets.

They think since they're just animals, "who cares", or "what's the worse that could happen?"

Thus why the petshops even sell "gila" hamsters and dunno why they "gila".

I also think we don't have any special breeders with strong network for certain type of pets so that people who are interested could get them directly from these breeders rather than the petshop. You know like they have in the US for suggies and such...

If we have certified breeders who is really certified to breed them(with knowledge and such), it could give those commercial breeders less opportunity right?


KP

well first of all . Malaysia are adil and saksama .. they dont care about these animals . i will be keep quite now .. who know.. there's gov spy in here ..

Adil & saksama??

Really?

Cheh, got gov spy also why? Let them know lah.

The gov should know and do something or else Malaysia an be a black market for everything that is illegal in the world.

Opsss, out off topic nanti

Save the suggies! Save their world!


KP

Kp .. i just being sarcastic .. hahaha .. where got adil ..put 160% import tax for big bikes just made bike stealing crime even worst .

back to topic ...

so u decided yet ? make cage ?

Haha, I know

I got sketch the blue print, but thinking bout the best way to put the tray still and whether or not can get a plastic tray.

Still haven't decided yet cuz this weekend gonna go ask about the cage first

Ohh, saw this big cat cage at Carrefour yesterday, RM250, thought mebbe use that but have to put with mesh all around it lah, but then I look at the tray, very not suitable, cuz if Iggy pee, sure drop outside the tray one


KP

Hi all...sorry had been so busy that had not been able to catch up..anyway...while reading this..yup..I noticed that there's no control over small pets like this....I did checked with WWF Malaysia about the mass selling in adpost last time...the ones we saw with lots of adults for sale....

and this is the reply i get..

Thank you for your email.

Sugar Gliders are not protected/ enlisted as endangered at this point of time, but it may eventually be so if it continues to be in demand, as pets for example.

It's actually difficult to identify between a wild & captive sugar glider. Even if it is captive, the adult males/females that have been originally obtained may not be captive, as it only breeds twice a year - as mentioned in one of the posts in the forum:


But how are you going to get profit from an animal that can only breed twice a year? Easy, you just get lots of adult pairs and set up a sg factory.


Breeders may need to obtain a lot of adults from the wild for this purpose. A dealer/breeder needs a license to prove that it's captive. Otherwise, when in doubt, do not purchase the sugar glider.

As it is not protected, there are no laws stopping people from bringing them in. However, Indonesia issues a permit for all wildlife (wild or captive bred) exported, so, any Sugar Gliders that arrive from Indonesia into Malaysia without these permits should be considered illegal and should be reported to PERHILITAN.

WWF-Malaysia works together with TRAFFIC, the wildlife trade monitoring network to ensure that trade in wild plants and animals is not a threat to the conservation of nature. However, we are NOT enforcement agencies. If you know of or suspect anyone illegally selling or trapping endangered species, or their products, please contact:

Department of Wildlife and National Parks (PERHILITAN), KL

Tel: 03-9075 2872

Fax: 03-9075 2873

Website: http://www.wildlife.gov.my/

Email: pakp@wildlife.gov.my


TRAFFIC Southeast Asia, PJ

Tel: 03-7880 3940

Fax: 03-7882 0171

Website: www.traffic.org

Email: tsea@po.jaring.my

(NOTE: Although TRAFFIC is not an enforcement agency, they can monitor & keep database of wildlife trade market trends to be on the alert at all times & to inform the relevant enforcement agencies)



Hope this info will help you.

Thank you & have a good week!



WWF-Malaysia
Check us out at www..wwf.org.my

This post has been edited by cheaka: Jul 4 2007, 05:59 PM

Huhh? So it does mean that breeders need to have license and that they must prove that their breeds are all captive bred not wild ones??

The thing is, people like us ARE in doubt about these breeders, but not those commercial pet shops... And these are the people that buys suggies from those breeders and sell it to people with some sweet lies perhaps...

Haihh, we are not that big of a people to jaga the ones that are being brought into Malaysia be it legal or illegal... To the commercial breeders or petshops also we don't really know or have any power to do anything How la...


KP

Heard more and more ppl are getting even up to 300 pairs for breeding.

One idea I have is to have permits and limit the amount of wild gliders harvested, but even so, This is afterall, Malaysia. Permits can be bught just like that and bribery knows no bounds. As long as there's someone willing to take the bribe, there's no telling how many the one person who's willing to pay can bring in. They may even bulk everything from one person, not needing to get permits themselves.

I think gliders should be licensed more strictly. Even though there are some ways to get around my idea, at least it helps stop ignorant ppl from easily buying WC gliders and start a sg factory knowing nuts about their care and needs.

hie everyone!! i've read lot of things from this thread.. so today ive made my decision to own a sg.. ive already bought the cage from pet safari.. complete set; the cage, food bowl, vines, artificial plant, the coconut(for sleeping), foods and lots more.. so now i've heard bout the mass breading, i felt a bit afraid i'll get an untamed sg.. so any true breeder around here? i really wanna own a sg.. so plz help me.. where can i get a handraised sg? if can get it asap it would be GREAT!! cant tahan already laaa... so tempted.. huhuhuh.. i tahan bout 2 months d... now my hand so gatalllllllll... ahahah